Open 538: Diffusion of Power (Game Over)

[BoroPhil]

I just can't see how that is a helpful response.

Can you not see a situation in which scum would claim N1 cop for massive towncred?

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Of course I can. I'm waiting for everyone to post today. Some haven't.

[DoctorPepper]

Prod dodge. Will be active once school starts tomorrow

[Tammy]

Tammy it makes sense to me and was part of why i chose zebe instead.

Why did Bo's kill make sense to you?

[Tammy]

Zebe and Dr Pepper stayed resolutely on DBK.
ETL, Mr Blonde and Lucky stayed resolutely on Cheery.

Not sure if this essentially proves my case wrong with Zebe/ETL being there, but worth a discussion at least. and again means that we have to discuss the possibility of ETL/Zebe being scum together.

Vote for now is based on the above, his lack of anything else yesterday and a horrible vote on Kalimar today who looks town to me based on yesterday.

VOTE: DoctorPepper

Why does Kamilar look town to you? And why is his vote on Kalimar worse than smudger or bb's vote on kalimar? BB, who you were gunning for yesterday?

[Tammy]

basically two dreadful votes.

here is a question. if your day one gambit was so obviously town, why are you still alive?

Why is a kalimar vote dreadful? I think it's a wonderful vote.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Tammy it makes sense to me and was part of why i chose zebe instead.

Why did Bo's kill make sense to you?

Because if I were scum, it's exactly the kill I'd make. He was under heavy suspicion yesterday, and one of the two leading wagons. Considering there are multiple cops, it's not as easy to pin down who to take out. Instead, it's easier to assume the cop would investigate the second leading wagon, and kill that person instead (if they are town), possibly removing a confirmed town for the next day and setting someone up for a mislynch when they claim an innocent on the dead person.

I'd be more suspicious about bo today had he survived.

Fwiw, I wanted to avoid explaining this until later, but with the number of conftown and almost conftown, we'd have to be really bad to lose this.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

I am sure they did not expect me to investigate anyone other than bo which is why lucky's immediate attempt to neutralize me is so damn scummy. Boro is less so. He at least tried to ask questions. Smudger's votes yesterday were opportunistic as fuck but he has yet to appear.

[Tammy]

Then I think votes are good within Mr. Blonde, Smudger and Kalimar

VOTE: kalimar

[Smudger]

Was lost on who is scum, so I voted Boro. Then I realized Kalimar was a better vote after seeing whomever voted them.

ok walk me thorough that please, you are guided in where you vote because of who is voting who at the time?

[Smudger]

I am sure they did not expect me to investigate anyone other than bo which is why lucky's immediate attempt to neutralize me is so damn scummy. Boro is less so. He at least tried to ask questions. Smudger's votes yesterday were opportunistic as fuck but he has yet to appear.

I have been here, I was here yesterday and now today RL. you say my votes were opportunistic, ok, I was very convinced that DBK was scum, in fact my vote was there for most of yesterday. I then moved my vote to Zebe as doubt entered my mind regarding DBK, I say as much. I moved my vote to what appeared to be the other stronger wagon at that time, and it was to someone I found scummy and had again stated so. you will also see that the reason I moved it was because I was not around at DL.

[BBmolla]

Was lost on who is scum, so I voted Boro. Then I realized Kalimar was a better vote after seeing whomever voted them.

ok walk me thorough that please, you are guided in where you vote because of who is voting who at the time?

I saw him being voted, iso'd him, agreed with the vote.

What is your point with these questions

[Smudger]

I did to understand your response, now you have explained it thanks

[Smudger]

that should read "did not understand"...

[EspeciallyTheLies]

I am sure they did not expect me to investigate anyone other than bo which is why lucky's immediate attempt to neutralize me is so damn scummy. Boro is less so. He at least tried to ask questions. Smudger's votes yesterday were opportunistic as fuck but he has yet to appear.

I have been here, I was here yesterday and now today RL. you say my votes were opportunistic, ok, I was very convinced that DBK was scum, in fact my vote was there for most of yesterday. I then moved my vote to Zebe as doubt entered my mind regarding DBK, I say as much. I moved my vote to what appeared to be the other stronger wagon at that time, and it was to someone I found scummy and had again stated so. you will also see that the reason I moved it was because I was not around at DL.

I dont care what you said is the reason for vote hopping; I was looking at the timing and position on them.

[Smudger]

ok then its there for you to see.

[aptil]

This game , i think it is a good tactic to out your results as cops . You are a cop for only 1 day and either way it confirms 1 scum or 1 town . The reward for scum doing such a tactic so early is cery less . There lies will be detected sooner or later . So i thought it was good play from ETL to announce her results .

Unrelated - Tammy replacing Wake is a very good thing for town .

[aptil]

OK, DP and Kalimar both look like a good vote to me . Right now , i will go with DP .
VOTE: DP

[BBmolla]

I feel pretty good about aptil after the above posts.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

I forgot what I was doing here. I think Smudger or Lucky are good bets for today and would be willing to lynch either.

[BoroPhil]

Zebe and Dr Pepper stayed resolutely on DBK.
ETL, Mr Blonde and Lucky stayed resolutely on Cheery.

Not sure if this essentially proves my case wrong with Zebe/ETL being there, but worth a discussion at least. and again means that we have to discuss the possibility of ETL/Zebe being scum together.

Vote for now is based on the above, his lack of anything else yesterday and a horrible vote on Kalimar today who looks town to me based on yesterday.

VOTE: DoctorPepper

Why does Kamilar look town to you? And why is his vote on Kalimar worse than smudger or bb's vote on kalimar? BB, who you were gunning for yesterday?

basically two dreadful votes.

here is a question. if your day one gambit was so obviously town, why are you still alive?

Why is a kalimar vote dreadful? I think it's a wonderful vote.

mainly his 417, where he arrived at some similar conclusions to me, particularly on Aptil. However, I agreee with BB that Aptil's 791 was good, although possibly stating the obvious? It did seem helpful though.

Vote was on Dr Pepper for a combination of reasons as per above. Could easily get on a Smudger vote though, BB now to a lesser extent.

[BoroPhil]

Thinking about the ETL/Zebe thing - if Zebe is town, then I assume we would expect him to be dead tomorrow? As if ETL is conftown, he is spent conftown, while Zebe presumably (unless he was also N1) has some power remaining.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

I think everyone has posted without another N1 claim.

[BoroPhil]

yeah, but if he was a N1 doc you wouldn't expect a claim.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

who zebe? why not? i already knew there was a possibility of multiple cops on the same night.