In post 557, Jaqen Hghar wrote:Kazekirimaru, a lady's suspicion on the MtC slot is based on cabd's slip, not on a petty grievance with the other half. A man is pretty sure of this. cabd's deflecting and discrediting afterward instead of just being his town self pretty much wraps that up in a pretty bow. And the conf bias comes from the jiffy third on someone they've had problems reading in other games, and he sets ablaze that which he can't read. Probably because he's so good at reading.
Explain the slip to me again?
Explain this to me too, while you're at it.
In post 562, Kagami wrote:
Still town every game. Rem's replacement probably proves her town.
Proves nothing.
In post 563, Kise wrote:I don't understand the hate onKagami. I don't know if you guys really missed it or not, but are you okay with Rem asking numerous fluff questions, mentioning his (offsite) games with Tsu in an effort to get her to recognize he only calls himself town as town and never as scum, and thereby he's wanting someone to confirm him as town, yet he hasn't scumhunted?
I hadn't notice he replaced out until an hour after I was done catching up. I started reading & posting at 1045 this morning. The mod edited the post mentioning Rem's replacing out at 10:47. Rem no longer being here shouldn't give that slot a clean slate. He did absolutely nothing to find scum and instead made excuses about changing his playstyle, then asked more meta questions and did nothing with them after only UFO answered his first round of questions.
I'm happy Kagami is showing support. No matter how you feel about her, I don't thinkyou can honestly say she's wrong for voting Rem. Again, he tries to get Tsu to notice his town tell or whatever you wish to call it. He does this instead of looking for scum.
With regards to Kagami, I mainly have bad feels about her because of how long it took her to start up. Feels different from other games.
Remembrance? I haven't forgotten about that slot at all. And just because Kagami is voting for him doesn't make her town.
In post 572, Kagami wrote:I really hate that scummy nom.
My incomplete assessment of the gamestate is that there are only a few lines of argument that make sense:
Mac on kagami: not enough content, can't deny that
Jaqen on morph: cadb slip
lush on bubba: Various minor tells, listed in 463
morph on Pie: Srs biz early posting nonsense
kise on rem: kise-tsukasa interaction
Of all these, my favorite by far is kise's point, which is both original and accurate. Now, whether or not it's indicative of rem's alignment is a different matter. Rem is either legit invoking a trust tell (and yes, this is a trust tell), or she's using a false tell to push her towniness. Hard to say which, but it makes kise very much town to me. Kise's response to my little flip-flop on rem is very nice, imo, making him a fairly strong townread to me.
The morph thing on pie is pretty weak, I admit that I sheeped it because wagons are fun and I hadn't read the thread much yet on my opening post.
Your argument on bubba is consistent and effortful. I think there's potential for a lot of confbias there, so I was hesitant to hop on. It feels like you got the scum tinglies, and then fit the evidence to that read. The gun post was absurdly inappropriate, but not alignment indicative. I think you're prob-town. Bubba leans scum for this.
I'm running through jaqen's argument now. I'm actually not sure I follow. Cadb says that he assumes town doesn't read the mod posts as carefully as scum, which seems silly but whatever, and misses that bubba was making a joke. He says "but you all missed it, so shame on you." So the argument is that Cabd is identifying that one of the people he's addressing is scum (which implies himself scum)? There's the off chance that he just thought that everyone but he himself missed it, I suppose...
That's the jist of it, no?
Can you quote a completed town game where you've made an assessment in this fashion? Thank you.
You're still giving me bad feelings.
In post 577, Jaqen Hghar wrote:
from post
291 is weird. A man looked over and over again to find where he and this mystery other said they didnt like when people alluded to their role pm to clear someone and never found it, so the man is left wondering who this wight he conversed with is and where the conversation was had.
I forget who said it, but someone did in fact say it. Lush, I think?
In post 582, Jaqen Hghar wrote: In post 302, morph the cat wrote:My initial thought was that town was more likely to skip over the posts form the mod
whereas scum was more likely to read it thoroughly
, but that theory was clearly flawed.
You all ought to be ashamed of yourselves.
A man will break this down a little more thoroughly for Muffin
-cabd believes town would be more apt to skip the mod opening sequence
-cabd believes scum would be more likely to read the opening lest they miss something that could screw up
their game
-cabd says "You all ought to be ashamed of yourselves."
-as cabd believes town less likely read the opening, he would have nothing to be ashmed of for town missing
the IC
-as cabd believes scum should have read the opening, and aparently didn't, the statement of shame can only
be applied to those he's shaming. The scum.
-this leads a resonable man to ponder,
why wold a town cabd be motivated to help scum?
-since cabd took the chance to do this ITT, it further implies the lack of day talk.
You missed this part:
which he said before the shame part. You're going on a bad tangent.
That's right. Hop on that easy vote.
I echo this.
In post 601, zMuffinMan wrote:i also don't like the whole "townslip" thing
but that's mostly because i like doing that sort of thing a lot as scum and i don't think i've ever seen either head of morph call something a townslip, let alone something that weak when it was obviously a joke from bubba
Are you kidding me right now? This is how you justify your vote?
In post 604, Lush Life wrote:
I also think that ffery's particular exit from the game is town looking.
I'd rather you didn't start on this.
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Hello,
609. I wish you said something pertinent.
Yeah, I'm glazing over another one of your posts.
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In post 613, pieguyn wrote:ok let me try to explain this
Sakura Hana is a friend of mine and we play a lot. whenever she's town, everything she posts pings me and we always get in 1v1s a lot. however, when she's scum her posts are like 9000x more logical and I hardly pick up on anything from her. the last time I played with Kaze (AA:MFA), we got in a massive 1v1 and he was town. this feels like it could end up being the same thing, plus he's being townread by a lot of people. I get lost enough in large games as it is and the last thing I need is to do a 1v1 that probably won't get me anywhere. also, in AA:MFA everyone besides me read him as town, so I kind of feel like trusting the majority on him is better in this scenario. I can revisit the possibility he's scum later but it's prob better to write him off as town and see what happens atm
Still don't feel it. If you're so fine with putting me in a corner and sorting me later why do you continue to ask people about me? Waiting for someone to tell you they think I'm scum?
And that's totally cool, really, leaving me alone to sort later. But then why call me
town
? Why not null? It makes no sense to put me in a townblock when you're apparently not getting a clear read on me.
Pardon?
In post 616, Varsoon wrote:Kaze, being compared to me probably means you don't play by other people's rules, you can be nonsensical, you have crazy gambits, and you're absolutely conniving as scum.
Game pace too fast dough.
The first two points sound about right. I'll take it.
Get back to me on your reads sometime, mkay?
In post 617, pieguyn wrote:vote: morph
still not sure about the "slip" but oh well I'll bite for now
The mental image of an array of enemy Gundams comes to mind.
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How long has ActionDan been in this game? o.o
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In post 631, zMuffinMan wrote:i refuse to read those fucking giant quote walls. go fuck yourself if you're planning to do any more of them
Then fucking leave.
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The case on Cabd? fucking balls. I can't tell how many of you are just foolishly following the sewage Jaqen is spewing out and how many are scum taking the opportunity to build up on the wagon, but you're all definitely ridiculous and/or scum. I think a lot of the people on the wagon in question are actually both! Notice how quickly it moved?
So, Kagami is upgraded to full scumread. Muffin is still Leaning Scum.
pieguy, Remembrance, bubba, Kagami. How's that sound? Those are my scumreads. And you know what? Many of them all decided it'd be a novel idea to vote Cabd within a span of like three fucking hours! Dat wagon. How's that for you, eh?
But yeah, can we stop playing around now? I think it's time we actually started playing this thing. Start with pie. I'll actually happily lynch Kagami afterwords.
