Touhou: Mafia in the Land of Fantasy (Game Over)

[zMuffinMan]

I dont think ive properly adapted tp the new site meta of discrediting reasoning in favor of who can bark the loudest.
In my days we took the barker out back and shot it
Im disappointed

hey, dramonic

what did they do with dogs who didn't bark at all?

I kind of felt very strong town vibes from him after I got over paranoia and here I am not feeling it. like I feel nothing

maybe you should see a doctor about that

[zMuffinMan]

also, tsukasa could be scum. i briefly skimmed through that giant wall a few pages back and didn't like anything i saw

[Lush Life]

A man wonders why Kaze's dissonance is trumping cabd's dissonance by this slot. At the same time, a man can see where you're coming from.

the emotional escalation is what gives me pause. neither of my heads will touch it and borky has a strong meta case which I can sort of see and if given enough time wrt to cabd and my own experience with prohawk I think it can be sorted out.

that is the best I can do for now.

[Varsoon]

you still owe me 5 pizzas for that game

Send me a PM and I'll buy you at least one. :3

One of Lush Life, GCBC(previously morph), Kise, Pie, and zMuffin is scum, if not more. Just lynch that list and we'll be gold.

was there any actual reason behind this list, btw? it looks like you just chose the top 5 posters outside of kaze and the IC

PoE, Content, Post Count, all that. List is good list. Also, isn't it suspicious most of those folks are on the Pieguyn wagon?

C'mon. :3


@Mollie: I'm really over my head in this game. I wish I wasn't as busy as I am, then I could check site every 30 minutes or faster and keep up. I'm not going to impress you in this one, sadly. D:

@Kaze: I like you, bro. What are your scum reads? I'd like to work with you on them.

Anyone scum-reading me but keeping me at a distance (lookin at you, bubbajackguy) should either commit or drop it. It's too scummy otherwise. No shit my play is bad, I've acknowledged that.

[Jaqen Hghar]

Valar morghulis

; some sooner than others. A man may have but this one day to accomplish all and he doesn't plan to waste it on frivolities. That was a cabd slip as a man said. A lady is great at meta. I'm sure she can find where this has happened before, and there would be no emotional escalation to gain pause from since it has nothing to do with a boy's original other half.

[Varsoon]

Jaqen, I want whatever you're on.

[Tsukasa]

@bubba: Answers are in bold inside the spoiler

Spoiler: Tsukasa

Damn you guys move fast

VOTE: UFO

For being second hardest

Next to SA

Why wouldn't you vote the hardest? Hardest what?

The hardest is SA. There are no SA's in the game. UFO is the 2nd hardest touhou game. Murasa is enough to make me cry. Ichirin Even. HECK. Even kogasa

Today has been a bad day, even my town role pm didn't cheer me up that much. I hope I'll feel better in the morning.

I don't feel so great with your PM claim.

IIRC you've done this quite a number of times. And almost certain you've always lied with this.

Links?

I've already said why I didn't search for links. Plus Rem's replacement, the links would be void, IMO.

dram

and rem are both leaning scum

why?

Dram is a lurksack scum. He says shit, but quickly backs off when you answer him.
Remslot goes back to null for now

One thing I hate are trust tells.
It kinda affects gameplay

or something.

And if the person is aware that he's using a trust tell, doesn't that mean that it can easily be faked?

I don't like this at all.

How come? Did I say something awful? Should I stop saying it? Why don't you like me, senpai.
Please, notice me.
Please notice me senpai

Near the end of the post it gets better.

Majiffy. Aren't you just abusing your "I am Majiffy" Status?
That just because you're majiffy you can do anything and everything you want anytime?
Can you stop with that? Just this once? It's messing up my read of you.
This sensation of you being a "VERY VERY dangerous-scum"... It's unbearable.

I enjoy the constant fear having me around elicits from others.

I think Lush Life is scum

Yeah but...

wait what

?

Why what?
Is there something wrong?

/off
Real title is "Kanbu de Todomatte Sugu Tokeru~ Kyouki no Udongein"
I am sad that you posted a wrongly titled link
/on

Tsukasa and Varsoon are about on the same level for me. I'd be more comfortable with a kagami lynch though.

Why do you say that we're almost the same?
Why are we down there?
Based on the stuff you said a page ago... Shouldn't we be null? I'm not sure of the things you have said that time.
Care to explain?

~Mollie's Reads~

Why am I not on the list?
I've been forgotten again. *cries in the corner more*
Why didn't you add me? Don't you have an opinion of me? Am I scum? Am I town?
Did my actions against you earlier make you ignore me?
Did you ignore me because I hit something?
Did I hit something because you are actually scum?
Tell me.

[Tsukasa]

also, tsukasa could be scum. i briefly skimmed through that giant wall a few pages back and didn't like anything i saw

How can you say that?
It's better if you say what you don't like specifically.
Just saying that wouldn't help me, nor anyone.

[Tsukasa]

P.S.

That quote fail

Whatevs

[Tsukasa]

P.S.S.

I'm still waiting on mr. IC to explain the thing about cabd.
I need it to progress my read on cabd and lush life.

So with that, I'll go
VOTE: Dram

[Mac]

Put bork on the line so I can talk about Kagami and how they are not town

Here in limited capacity. Talk to me.

Hey, sorry, it was like 2am and I was falling asleep. But what are you seeing in Kagami that makes you think town?

[Mac]

Put bork on the line so I can talk about Kagami and how they are not town

I actually agree with this. mac you were starting to worry me for a minute cos we weren't clicking.

anybody who has messiah as town is fucking nuts. they have only made 3 posts and not I am able to get a read off of them and I can probably read them better than any1 else on this site

I'm glad we're starting to click. Life's always smoother when you're #teammollie

What do you make of desp's reach out to both of us then not following through?

[Mac]

mac

mac

mac

y u ignor3 m3 mac

treat 'em mean, keep 'em keen.

[Mac]

I was being pieguy for a second - if you'd read the post, you would've understand

it didn't look like a pie impersonation but sure, whatever

what are your reads outside of pieguy?

pie's reads in #366 are meh but the lushlife one is especially shit about the townslip about IC (ill be fucked if i can remember their name) - kaze in his

TOWN BLOC

because he can't read him? hahahahaha

I can't read muffin usually so he's town!

I'm genuinely struggling to see how you are not getting it as a clear joke about pie's kaze read. just... how?

Outside of pie, I'm scumreading Kagami hard too. Lighter scumreads exist in the form of Katarina, MC, and to an extent, yourself.

[zMuffinMan]

i didn't read it as related to the previous line, i read it as being a different thought in your catch-up process *shrug*

what don't you like about my posts?

[zMuffinMan]

How can you say that?
It's better if you say what you don't like specifically.
Just saying that wouldn't help me, nor anyone.

because there's no actual content there. like none, whatsoever. it's a huge wall designed to look like you're doing something when you're not doing anything at all, really. and all the questions you were asking were meaningless. plus the tone of all your commentary feels really off to me

[bubbajack8]

I have pie as a pretty high null / town read.

I wish you didn't, though.

You can always try to change my mind...

The reason I have a town read on Majiffy is slightly because he is attacking me. Last time he did he was town. He also posted a picture he posted as town, last game. I mean it's all easily faked, but it's screams Majiffy town, then again i don't know what Majiffy scum would look like......

I'm pretty much done with replying to Majiffy. At this point we're going in circles and I'm getting aggravated.

You're reading Jiffy as town because he's attacking you and as town he attacks you...

Yup. Pretty much.

I resolved with Mac, and
I've somewhat taken a stance on Rem.

That stance on Rem being?

Null. The spoiler on him states I had a problem with one of his post, but his replace out seems sincere.

As in what's wrong with his lynch or how is he scummy?

Why is Varsoon scummy?

Searching themselves, I don't see how that's towny?

Bolded in 694. I have a problem with.

Posts a lynch list, but doesn't really follow the order. Didn't like that.

Lots of "I'm confirmed town."

And he hasn't provided really anything besides that.

...

Spoiler: Kagami

I'm consulting on top of my normal job this month, so work on that is on hold until further notice. I'm only really using my database to quickly find games of players who don't have wikis.

I like kaze in this game so far, though I admit to not having read the 17 pages especially thoroughly. It looks like almost entirely like fluff. The case on remembrance slot feels like it might be legit.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Rem-slot

kaze, can you summarize case on ufo for me?

I kind of don't like this. She says she hasn't read thouroghly, but still feels the case is legit.

She then keeps going on about the trust tell.

Words against Jaqen.

I really hate that scummy nom.

My incomplete assessment of the gamestate is that there are only a few lines of argument that make sense:

Mac on kagami: not enough content, can't deny that
Jaqen on morph: cadb slip
lush on bubba: Various minor tells, listed in 463
morph on Pie: Srs biz early posting nonsense
kise on rem: kise-tsukasa interaction

Of all these, my favorite by far is kise's point, which is both original and accurate. Now, whether or not it's indicative of rem's alignment is a different matter.

Rem is either legit invoking a trust tell (and yes, this is a trust tell), or she's using a false tell to push her towniness.

Hard to say which, but it makes kise very much town to me. Kise's response to my little flip-flop on rem is very nice, imo, making him a fairly strong townread to me.

still pushing trust tell.

Cadb says that town doesn't read the mod-post, but scum do. Then says to the group of people, many who seemed to have missed the IC announcement, "but you all missed it, shame on you." This doesn't make sense from town-frame, because if everyone there is town, then this is perfectly consistent with the first statement. He expresses surprise, though,

suggesting that he's observed that scum also have failed to read the mod-post.

Expresses concern that Morph could be scum, but also say that they could be town.

And then this.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Morph

It seems to me that they're trying to fit in.

...

The trust tell remains one of the more solid things that has happened this game, and I like solid things. I really don't care if other people don't like that I'm calling it what it is. The question to my mind is only whether it's being invoked, or exploited.

It's not that I don't like what you're calling it, it's how long you're holding on to it...

In the post you quote, I don't call morph town at any point. You're misreading this to make a case.

The bolded to me felt like you had found town motivation. "He expresses surprise, though, suggesting that he's observed that scum also have failed to read the mod-post." That seemed to me like a "he might be town" to me.

i really dislike the pbpa bubba did in #750. there's so little analysis there; it reads like hollow commentary

As people have asked, I have included more analysis, and commentary. Mainly it's I don't like this because this.

If you want me to go further in depth on something I will.

Anyone scum-reading me but keeping me at a distance (lookin at you, bubbajackguy) should either commit or drop it. It's too scummy otherwise. No shit my play is bad, I've acknowledged that.

This post has some more in depth things about you.

The hardest is SA. There are no SA's in the game. UFO is the 2nd hardest touhou game. Murasa is enough to make me cry. Ichirin Even. HECK. Even kogasa

Ah okay.

Dram is a lurksack scum. He says shit, but quickly backs off when you answer him.
Remslot goes back to null for now

Have you played with dram before?

One thing I hate are trust tells.
It kinda affects gameplay

or something.

And if the person is aware that he's using a trust tell, doesn't that mean that it can easily be faked?

I don't like this at all.

How come? Did I say something awful? Should I stop saying it? Why don't you like me, senpai.
Please, notice me.
Please notice me senpai

The "or something" Why did you say or something, it's almost like sarcasm.

"It affects gameplay or something that makes me look like town"

[Mac]

i didn't read it as related to the previous line, i read it as being a different thought in your catch-up process *shrug*

what don't you like about my posts?

nothing about them stands out particularly. normally you have an opinion where i'll nod in agreement or a post which will bring a new light into my life, but so far I'm not seeing it. the only possibly 'controversial' thing in your iso so to speak is voting morph but as far as i can see, you are riding off this cabd slip bullshit which is quite frankly a poison to the thread - mainly because, you know, it probably wasn't a slip? what are your reads looking like?

[Mac]

morph's posting about the townslip made sense because there's no way scum would all post 3 in a row questioning cabd have an IC they all missed on his reads list. especially if he's hard townreading Lush/maybe kaze. move along, thank you.

Not really sure what you're saying in this post but I'll kindly disagree that GCBC is town.

why?

I'll explain what I mean: I think it's a train of thought brought into the thread. he thinks it's a townslip because bubba missed it and apparently town are less likely to read the posts. but as it turns out, alot of people missed it (and by alot - bubba, Lush and Kaze in the space of three posts) so yeah I think he tossed the theory out of the window there and then. not rocket science.

Evidently you realised Jaqen was IC at the point, yes?

[zMuffinMan]

i don't think it was a "slip" - just something i don't see coming from town. i also don't think they've done anything that looks town and i dunno why people are giving town reads to that slot. i think it has something to do with the posting volume or something? i dunno. why do you think that slot is town?

as for reads, ask again later and i might format a list. or, you know, read my posts. either way works

[Lush Life]

Hey, sorry, it was like 2am and I was falling asleep. But what are you seeing in Kagami that makes you think town?

In my conversation with mollie or majiffy (I can't remember which it was) I mentioned that I think that probably there was scum within the quick momentum shift onto morph from [pie/kagami/muffin] (but most certainly not all scum) and at the time I was 1) getting weird on muffin and 2) felt that pie was so off his usual play and on morph with such a halfhearted conviction (see #617) that kagami was looking the least bad of the three.

[zMuffinMan]

normally you have an opinion where i'll nod in agreement or a post which will bring a new light into my life

what do you mean "normally" btw? because two out of the three games i've played with you, i've been scum. and the other game i don't remember interacting with you much, if at all, nor you commenting on pretty much anything i was doing

[Lush Life]

The following are a collection of people that have supported the Bubba scumread and have failed to pony up with a vote;
{Kise, Muffin, pieguy, Kaze, Jaqen, Katarina}

Given my townreads on Muffin and Kaze, and Jaqen's IC status, we are left with;
{Kise, pieguy, Katarina}

If you feel any of these players are possibly scum, you should help me lynch Bubba, as they have explicitly stated support, forcing their hand to bus their buddy.
We can lynch their scumbutts next.



The following are a list of players who have explicitly stated they do not like my case on Bubba without actually refuting anything specific;
{Bubba, Dramonic, Jaqen}

Given Jaqen is an IC and also supports a Bubba scumread I believe we can define him now as the town VI.

Bubba and possibly Dram are scum, along with the aforementioned grouping.

VOTE: Bubba

Can we stop dilly-dallying and do this now?

[Lush Life]

No you didn't.

Uh ok buddy whatever you say.

Others have brought it up. Read the game, tunnel less.

Yes, but you *continued* to reference it, pointing out *repeatedly* how alignment-neutral it is.

Jesus fucking Christ get some reading comprehension.

What do you want me to address?

My entire case on you and every preceding argument after, since you have addressed absolutely zero of it.

I'm not trying to appeal to fear. I'm trying to appeal too what lack of better judgement you have.

And I'm sure you have a town role PM too.

8/21 =/= half.

Continue vote bubba streak.

More Bubba

"Close to half"

Continue Bubba lying streak.

Continue Bubba being proven lying.

Great reads bro. Well done. Fuck off before I start to think you're scum. Because I don't and you're changing my opinion. And I don't like that.

"I'll scum read you if you don't back off me!"

This is a scum defense.

To put it the nicest way I can. you're a dick.

Yeah, but you haven't told me why not being a dick is advantageous.

More of him being an ass to me.

i said in the last post where you jumped to conclusions. Where you were assuming things and you said you had "proven it"

No, you just said that I

had

jumped to conclusions. You didn't make note on which conclusions or what the logical jumps were.

The lol of it all is that if Bork thinks Jaqen is the same person as cabd thinks and is known town, he has a history of being very accurate D1... So if that's your belief, why isn't a hydra following the read?

A man also has a history of shitty reaction tests and gambits that ruin games, as well as dayvigging an obvtown early d1.

i really dislike the pbpa bubba did in #750. there's so little analysis there; it reads like hollow commentary

No fucking shit.

Probably because he's scum.

Why what?
Is there something wrong?

Yeah, your read is spelled wrong. It should be T-O-W-N, not S-C-U-M.

[Yukari Yakumo]

bump