Touhou: Mafia in the Land of Fantasy (Game Over)

[Varsoon]

Your citation of fact is exactly the sort of thing that scum-you would use, as you've just admitting by claiming you'd burn the floor you stand on for a scum win. You'd go to any length to win, and so it makes plenty of sense that you'd make that play. Your. Rhetoric. Betrays. You.

You're playing the game. See how you just leveraged that Mollie has scum-read you in this game, thus making yourself seem more town? By writing...

So, if shes scumreading me, and I'm scum, I'm stating that her read on me will be correct by the end of today.... why, exactly? What''s my motive? To pray to Arceus that she will 180 her read? With a good percentage of the player base townreading me?

...you are making an argument for that sort of play as against your wincon as scum. This is why I claimed scum when I was manipulating the Trust Tell. Players would figure that I wouldn't do something so against my wincon as scum, and that I must be town for it. It works due to the logic exhibited by town who expect low-level play.

Furthermore, if Mollie does ultimately town read you, you can ride that to the bank. If Mollie waffles on you, you can use that as leverage to push a mislynch on her later in the game because you know she's a powerful opponent of yours.

Most players are too wrapped up in your web of lies to figure this all out,
But I'm on the outside and I'm looking in. I can see through you--see your true colors. 'Cause inside you're ugly. You're ugly like me I can see through you. See to the real you.

[zMuffinMan]

i'm liking gcbc's recent posts, actually. he could be town

varsoon being a derp but also probably town

[zMuffinMan]

Pieguyn's not even around to respond

no. bad. and fucking wrong.

pieguy is here (on site), he's not V/LA, he's just not participating in this game. i've never seen him do this before, and i dunno why he's doing it here, but yeah, he's not absent. i have my suspicions that he did what he did here as a sort of weak mimickry of what ffery did.

[zMuffinMan]

zMuffin comes out of nowhere voting, then throwing down 2 town reads. Want to give a basis for any of those reads? We played together in the fruit bowl game correct? I remember not liking you much after that game, are you going to be playing the same way?

i don't remember what the basis for those reads was. it was like 30+ pages ago. i guess i liked something about their posts. or something. seeing as you apparently agree with the two town reads i gave in the early game, why do you even care what the basis for those reads was?

i also don't really care how much you like me. i don't remember much about the fruit game. i don't really remember anything about you. here's a tip, though. if you don't like how i play,

i don't give two shits so shut up about it and deal with it

[zMuffinMan]

@Kaze: Pie wagon too easy. There's scum on it. Nuff said.

Holy shit, am I agreeing with Varsoon?

hahaha, this post made me go and check what your read on pieguy is and i just realised you have him as town for... asking questions. also, most of the people voting pie are pretty high up on your town->scum scale, and varsoon's suspicions are like completely opposite to yours, so what exactly do you agree with varsoon about?

why do we have to be interacting for me to agree?

we don't, necessarily. but i don't remember you ever saying anything like that about my town game before and it stuck out as odd because you're more familiar with my scum game

[Katarina LeBlanc]

To be honest I don't want to participate in this game either. But I don't like subbing out as well

[zMuffinMan]

it gets like that when almost 50% of the posts in this game are coming from 2 player-slots (i kinda wish they'd shut the fuck up and stop spamming but i know this isn't going to happen)

but that has nothing to do with why pieguy isn't here

[Lush Life]

Don't you think the wagon would be moving a little(or a lot) more smoothly if it were on town? There's been so much resistance despite it being a vote from the beginning.

You mean like the Bubba wagon, which is moving even slower and with even more resistance?
The one the pie wagon is counter-wagon to?

@Lush : you seriously need to synch your heads, This is ridiculous.

And you seriously need to do something besides sit on the sidelines and jeer and everyone.

Side note: let me know if anyone wants my take on past events.

Why else would you be catching up if we didn't want your input on past events?

So, will a Lady discus scumsoon with a man?

I'm feeling it.

@Majiffy

: I think your town now. Please continue using your Majiffy status. <3

Great. Vote Bubba.

If Mollie waffles on you, you can use that as leverage to push a mislynch on her later in the game because you know she's a powerful opponent of yours.

Yeah but they still have to get through me.

[Jaqen Hghar]

@Su Casa (lol because same pronunciation)

So... if he's shaming scum for "not reading", how is he... scum?
Heck... Why would he even say that to his fellow scum.

How would a boy know who the scum are to know they haven't read and then to shame them for not reading without being scum himself? A man has already answered the second part but will again ~ because scum obviously have no day talk and he needed to get the rest of his team under control. A boy likes control.

@GCBC

A boy is free to keep believing waynegg to be the face this man wears, but know this. He wasn't the only person in those games who also knows and uses this site in order to have that meta. A boy's very own partner, for example knows and sees that as well for example. There are at least 5 others from those games who do as well.

Perhaps a man was hasty on Varsoon. Or Varsoon has gotten better at faking his town meta. Whatever the case

VOTE: GCBC

[GoodCop_BadCop]

varsoon being a derp but also probably town

You sure about that? Here is what I saw from his posts.

I make a post saying I am town (because I am and I know that despite others not having the same luxury). Varsoon says, "How can you say that? Only one person is confirmed town". Which I found odd-scum-odd because...

A) He CONFIRMED HIMSELF as town in his first post AND his second post using the explicit words "However, I'm town, so there's no use in voting me, as

I am now confirmed town.

." And I know he was specifically referring to Jacquen as being confirmed town, or at the very least should have considering how he has been posting.

B) If he were town, he should realize that as town, in a game with an IC, you should know that two people are town (yourself and the IC). It is an INTEGRAL part of scum-hunting. But if he were scum, he would have to pretend he was town (like in his first posts) and the realization wouldn't come natively.

C) I never said I was confirmed town. What I said was Jacquen was tunneling on town which I know to be a true statement.

THEN comes the back tracking when I call him out... (paraphrased in my own words)

GC - Remember when you confirmed yourself town? Why are you saying there is only one confirmed town? You must be scum.
Vars - Oh uhh no, really you can know your uhh own alignment sure, but you cant uhh expect people to trust you. (coming from someone who got banned for a trust tell - oh the irony)
Vars - YEAH you are being dense. I can of course claim town, but you cant use it in an argument. YOU are being weak and anti-town.

What happened to?

I'm gonna slap you nerds with the nitty gritty:

I'm not going to participate in this game very much.

Then comes an onslaught of posts after I call him out. And then comes an admission of a "gambit".

My take: He wanted to chill out D1. Got caught up in the moment trying to help garner support for my lynch and slipped from his fake-stance put forth at the beginning of the day. Now because I actually have a decent case for Varsoon-Scum, he is scrambling and has dropped his "I'm not going to participate in this game very much" because he is in repair-image-mode.

Hey Varsoon! Since you like OMGUS so much...

VOTE: Varsoon

This is a good lynch.

~GC

[ActionDan]

VOTE: Varsoon

I actually agree. Haven't liked his posting regardless and A) + B) are enough.

(Also UFO is probably scum)

[GoodCop_BadCop]

Jaquen, you admitted that you knew Dram didn't natively speak English. Therefore you knew your cryptic posts would be harder to decipher for him/anyone who didn't natively speak English. Therefore you should be aware that what you are doing would make it harder for them to read and understand your posts. This is your admission.

Knowing a slot is scum and pushing for its lynch is far from tunneling as well.

Want to know something funny? You actually don't know a slot is scum because you are wrong. But by all means continue in denial.

Re: Varsoon - First, you said he was playing to his scum-meta, then when you changed your vote to me, you said he may be getting better at faking his town-meta (implying that he is now playing to his town-meta). So please explain why you feel like Varsoon is town now.

~GC

[Jaqen Hghar]

A man said He was either wrong about Varsoon or Varsoon had gotten better faking his town meta. A man finds it scummy how ProHawk twists a man's words. Where has a man seen him do this before?

[Lush Life]

oh god. this is multi-ball isn't it? I hate multiball.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

what i find uncomfortable is that you guyz are tearing down the credibility of a cleared player instead of trying to work with them.

You're joking right? Please Mollie, link me to your most recent game where a player has tunneled on you erroneously and you decided to work with said person instead of fight back.

Also, I don't believe you think my accusations of him tunneling on me/cabd are made up. If you did, you wouldn't need to be pulling his attention away from us towards other players.

~GC

P-EDIT: FREAKING WRITE LIKE A MAN AND NOT AN IDIOT IF YOU DONT WANT TO BE MIS-REPPED

[GoodCop_BadCop]

A man said He was either wrong about Varsoon or Varsoon had gotten better faking his town meta. A man finds it scummy how ProHawk twists a man's words. Where has a man seen him do this before?

Ok, lets work together. Answer in plain terms.

Is Varsoon playing to his town-meta?
Is Varsoon playing to his scum-meta?

~GC

[ActionDan]

or you know, don't answer because reliance on meta is retarded.

[ActionDan]

this game has too much of the following

Spam
5 stacks of quote pyramids
point quote point quote point ad infinitum
meta

please no more

[GoodCop_BadCop]

or you know, don't answer because reliance on meta is retarded.

That's not the point. The point is he is being confusing and needs to be more clear.

~GC

[ActionDan]

I understand. I just fly into a rage about the overuse of meta. and because no matter his original point (which I certainly didn't read) it's going to be about meta.

[Katarina LeBlanc]

Not a fan of this Varsoon case. What originally had you pickup the read was him confirming himself as town (which there have been numerous people that did quite the same thing but y'know, everyone does that) while ignoring the IC as the confirmed town. I believe that it was his 2nd post, 2 minutes prior to his first. As an introductory post in a game that has accumulated like, 30 pages of shitpost and unwarranted hydra quarreling, I don't think him not immediately talking about the IC is as big a deal as you account it for.

Where is this part where he claimed to be the

only

confirmed town?

[GoodCop_BadCop]

Not a fan of this Varsoon case. What originally had you pickup the read was him confirming himself as town (which there have been numerous people that did quite the same thing but y'know, everyone does that) while ignoring the IC as the confirmed town. I believe that it was his 2nd post, 2 minutes prior to his first. As an introductory post in a game that has accumulated like, 30 pages of shitpost and unwarranted hydra quarreling, I don't think him not immediately talking about the IC is as big a deal as you account it for.

Where is this part where he claimed to be the

only

confirmed town?

I don't think you actually read my post, or I didn't spell it out clearly?

Case has nothing to do with Varsoon ignoring the IC as confirmed town. (I don't think I said that and I know its not true anyhow)

~GC

[Much Username]

P-EDIT: FREAKING WRITE LIKE A MAN AND NOT AN IDIOT IF YOU DONT WANT TO BE MIS-REPPED

Much funny. Very irony. Wow.

[Lush Life]

what i find uncomfortable is that you guyz are tearing down the credibility of

a cleared player

instead of trying to work with them.

You're joking right? Please Mollie, link me to your most recent game where a player has tunneled on you erroneously and you decided to work with said person instead of fight back.

You're missing the point; bolded.

[Lush Life]

And hay gurl hay can we get some more votes on Bubba up in here? It's gotten to the point where even Mollie's vehement denial of BubbaScum is wearing thin.

We need to be lynching this obvscumbutt and you'll all thank me later for it.