Because it's pretty damn hard to distinguish you people just by post method. I'm sorry if I'm slower than everyone but it's fucking hard to keep tab on who is bitching at whom at the moment.
I apologize Bork for being rude to you but the only indication I have of your play was aggressive scum and my inability to decipher you from Majiffy got me annoyed because I cringe whenever I see a post from your hydra. All it ever is, is "let's lynch bubba" or you shouting at other people. I'm not a wordsmith expert that can immediately tell who is whom just by how well they caps :'(
Lush Life wrote:Tell me more about how the only legitimate act in scumhunting in this game has made it go downhill.
Show me one case that even rivals my case on Bubba.
To whomever made this, you quote entire walls in reply to bubba with more with what you intentionally want to pick off as useless just to make the wall needlessly longer. These make reading back a bitch to do because all you ever do is tunnel vision him and all his posts, while labeling them as garbage. I can't help but feel sympathy for him because even I want to tell you to shut up about it already. You're just inciting negative responses from him while building your actual case (which is what we I actually want to read)
None of that is what I was lol'ing at, but I love your over-defensive ambition to scare away the wagon!
In post 1098, dramonic wrote:Any post with a vote in it?
You're case is make-believe and wishful thinking with a shitload of confbias. It's about as strong as Varsoon's case on gcbc.
In post 1100, Katarina LeBlanc wrote:To whomever made this, you quote entire walls in reply to bubba with more with what you intentionally want to pick off as useless just to make the wall needlessly longer.
This is actually a
complete lie
, as I do a lot of cutting in quotes in order to keep my points specific and the reading material as short as possible.
But I'll keep this in mind when Bubba flips scum, considering you're sitting with your vote on Bubba, having offered no reasoning, and seemingly just sheeping me when I made a call-to-vote.
In post 1100, Katarina LeBlanc wrote:To whomever made this, you quote entire walls in reply to bubba with more with what you intentionally want to pick off as useless just to make the wall needlessly longer. These make reading back a bitch to do because all you ever do is tunnel vision him and all his posts, while labeling them as garbage. I can't help but feel sympathy for him because even I want to tell you to shut up about it already. You're just inciting negative responses from him while building your actual case (which is what we I actually want to read)
Oh, the problem of different metas.
This isn't a game of peaches and rainbows, miss. Not everyone is nice. And if Lush truly thinks bubba is scum, why should he relent? Why should anyone feel sympathy for someone under the microscope when that's the point of this game?
In post 1103, Lush Life wrote:
But I'll keep this in mind when Bubba flips scum, considering you're sitting with your vote on Bubba, having offered no reasoning, and seemingly just sheeping me when I made a call-to-vote.
In post 993, Messiah Complex wrote:So far I am liking Gaiden, the slot that used to house morph (didn’t realize until now that they’d been replaced), lush, and kaze has come around for me. Those are in no particular order.
Not liking- Bubba, Kisa, Tsukasa, muffinman, and the slot that used to house Remmy. Also in no particular order.
Morph's description of their playstyle is really open and honest and not something I generally see from scum (with some exceptions that don't really apply here)
Muffin's #270 is how I would expect town to question someone who is getting townread too easily. He builds on it throughout p12--Muffin and Morph both look town in this exchange.
Bubba's #291 is not good, and no Cabd, he did not townslip by not knowing Jaq was mod confirmed. The whole wall is Bubba throwing potshots at random targets, but there's no zeal to it--like a fat cat swatting aimlessly at flies. It's scummy.
RED FLAG. I have no idea where this aggression came from morph.
Kaze's 374 starts good but ends poorly. Questioning townreads on yourself is natural, but pieguy clearly stated that he took your contradictory logic (and your accompanying gung-ho attitude) as towntells. The bottom paragraph makes it seem like you only read half of his post and thought you could get some mileage out of calling him out for bad logic/poor reads.
This p17 VC is fucking sad. 40% of the game not voting and the only thing vaguely resembling a wagon is on the wrong person and is 50% scummy. Probably a combination of a good scum mist and a cautious town.
The Dram and Action Dan votes on me are awkward sheeps to say the least. I don't quite follow their hop to my wagon, but since I've nabbed my scum verdict, I'll be chasing him all day.
I make a post saying I am town (because I am and I know that despite others not having the same luxury). Varsoon says, "How can you say that? Only one person is confirmed town". Which I found odd-scum-odd because...
." And I know he was specifically referring to Jacquen as being confirmed town, or at the very least should have considering how he has been posting.
B) If he were town, he should realize that as town, in a game with an IC, you should know that two people are town (yourself and the IC). It is an INTEGRAL part of scum-hunting. But if he were scum, he would have to pretend he was town (like in his first posts) and the realization wouldn't come natively.
C) I never said I was confirmed town. What I said was Jacquen was tunneling on town which I know to be a true statement.
THEN comes the back tracking when I call him out... (paraphrased in my own words)
GC - Remember when you confirmed yourself town? Why are you saying there is only one confirmed town? You must be scum. Vars - Oh uhh no, really you can know your uhh own alignment sure, but you cant uhh expect people to trust you. (coming from someone who got banned for a trust tell - oh the irony) Vars - YEAH you are being dense. I can of course claim town, but you cant use it in an argument. YOU are being weak and anti-town.
What happened to?
In post 426, Varsoon wrote:I'm gonna slap you nerds with the nitty gritty:
I'm not going to participate in this game very much.
Then comes an onslaught of posts after I call him out. And then comes an admission of a "gambit".
My take: He wanted to chill out D1. Got caught up in the moment trying to help garner support for my lynch and slipped from his fake-stance put forth at the beginning of the day. Now because I actually have a decent case for Varsoon-Scum, he is scrambling and has dropped his "I'm not going to participate in this game very much" because he is in repair-image-mode.
In post 1050, Katarina LeBlanc wrote:The basis of your read on him is his claiming confirmed town. Point B if I understand it correct.
I don't see how his cockiness on how he self-confirmed himself as town is a scumtell, that's not really alignment indicative. Read his Signature even.
That's how I interpreted his early posts.
You really need to re-read my post.
In simple terms, Varsoon said only one person is confirmed town (The mod-confirmed IC). When in reality if you are town, from your point of view, there should be two confirmed town. Varsoon isn't town, so he forgot that point when he made that post. This is aside from the hypocritical posts where he confirmed himself town and
then
said only the mod-confirmed IC was confirmed town.
Mollie, even confirmed town can throw games. Just because they are town and everyone knows it doesn't give them a crystal ball.
Your degree of misrepresentation in these posts alone is staggering.
1: You're twisting my gambit of seeming uninterested and catching you into something to scumpaint me. You're trying to deny me agency, which is to assume that I couldn't possibly be doing what I said I was doing. This is a scum tactic. You're attempting to disarm and devalue my arguments and approach. You're also going on as if I'm lying and making a push at disenfranchising my voice.
2: You've completely disregarded the post where I posit that the only way to be truly confirmed to the rest of the game's players is via the moderator. Of course, that post wouldn't be very helpful since it blows a hole in your entire misrepresentation of the facts of our exchange.
You're trying to doctor yourself up as a 'winner', and me as an illogical, lying, scummy loser. The truth is that you're (very obviously) lying about our interaction in order to simultaneously devalue me as a player and push a wagon on me. You've committed the fallacy of presenting a strawman. This comes in the form of you re-writing our dialogue to make me seem like a bumbling, backpedaling moron and painting yourself as a calm voice of reason and cogency. In short, fuck you. I really want to replace out of this game, and have done so when people've been this way before, but I'm going to stay in it. I won't rest until you're dead--and not because you're an asshole, but because you're scum.
Could everyone who is not on my wagon or GCBC's wagon please shift to voting for one of us?
I want him dead or I want to die. Either way, one of us should not come out of this alive.
In post 1100, Katarina LeBlanc wrote:To whomever made this, you quote entire walls in reply to bubba with more with what you intentionally want to pick off as useless just to make the wall needlessly longer. These make reading back a bitch to do because all you ever do is tunnel vision him and all his posts, while labeling them as garbage. I can't help but feel sympathy for him because even I want to tell you to shut up about it already. You're just inciting negative responses from him while building your actual case (which is what we I actually want to read)
Oh, the problem of different metas.
This isn't a game of peaches and rainbows, miss. Not everyone is nice. And if Lush truly thinks bubba is scum, why should he relent? Why should anyone feel sympathy for someone under the microscope when that's the point of this game?
I don't like people who rely on tunnel vision and jamming useless stuff just to shut someone up and accept their fate. Especially to
this
extent. What's worse is when people start thinking the wagon is immediately town motivated because of the caliber of rage and confidence of the read.
Going to go ahead and claim now, too, to show my conviction.
I'm one-shot redirector, Tewi Inabi, of the Good Girls.
My original plan was to use this power to hope to redirect a night kill onto GCBC, but the chances of guessing right, even with PoE, are low as fuck.
So, eh, why not full-claim and further confirm myself as town (get rekt, GCBC).
In post 993, Messiah Complex wrote:So far I am liking Gaiden, the slot that used to house morph (didn’t realize until now that they’d been replaced), lush, and kaze has come around for me. Those are in no particular order.
Not liking- Bubba, Kisa, Tsukasa, muffinman, and the slot that used to house Remmy. Also in no particular order.
Morph's description of their playstyle is really open and honest and not something I generally see from scum (with some exceptions that don't really apply here)
Muffin's #270 is how I would expect town to question someone who is getting townread too easily. He builds on it throughout p12--Muffin and Morph both look town in this exchange.
Bubba's #291 is not good, and no Cabd, he did not townslip by not knowing Jaq was mod confirmed. The whole wall is Bubba throwing potshots at random targets, but there's no zeal to it--like a fat cat swatting aimlessly at flies. It's scummy.
RED FLAG. I have no idea where this aggression came from morph.
Kaze's 374 starts good but ends poorly. Questioning townreads on yourself is natural, but pieguy clearly stated that he took your contradictory logic (and your accompanying gung-ho attitude) as towntells. The bottom paragraph makes it seem like you only read half of his post and thought you could get some mileage out of calling him out for bad logic/poor reads.
This p17 VC is fucking sad. 40% of the game not voting and the only thing vaguely resembling a wagon is on the wrong person and is 50% scummy. Probably a combination of a good scum mist and a cautious town.
Could everyone who is not on my wagon or GCBC's wagon please shift to voting for one of us?
I want him dead or I want to die. Either way, one of us should not come out of this alive.
Uhhh,
no.
In post 1109, Katarina LeBlanc wrote:I don't like people who rely on tunnel vision and jamming useless stuff just to shut someone up and accept their fate. Especially to
this
extent. What's worse is when people start thinking the wagon is immediately town motivated because of the caliber of rage and confidence of the read.
Hey!
How come you haven't offered reasons for thinking Bubba is scum, considering you're voting him?
How come you haven't refuted my points, if you think my case is nothing more than "tunnel vision" and "useless stuff"?
How come you haven't addressed my point against you, about the above? In favor of just sweeping it under the rug like no one will notice?
In post 1110, Varsoon wrote:Going to go ahead and claim now, too, to show my conviction.
I'm one-shot redirector, Tewi Inabi, of the Good Girls.
My original plan was to use this power to hope to redirect a night kill onto GCBC, but the chances of guessing right, even with PoE, are low as fuck.
So, eh, why not full-claim and further confirm myself as town (get rekt, GCBC).
Why the fuck are you claiming you everliving dumb fucking retarded motherffffff
Go buy a bottle of KY and kindly fist yourself into the hospital.
In post 1037, Jaqen Hghar wrote:A man said He was either wrong about Varsoon or Varsoon had gotten better faking his town meta. A man finds it scummy how ProHawk twists a man's words. Where has a man seen him do this before?
Ok, lets work together. Answer in plain terms.
Is Varsoon playing to his town-meta?
Is Varsoon playing to his scum-meta?
~GC
A man has already explained what he saw that looked like Varsoon's scum. Varsoon's town however is reflected in his back to back posting liking and calling the case on himself dumb. That leavs a man on fence. A GCBC lynch will clear it up though because if a man is right and GCBC is scum, Varsoon surely is as well.
I don't want any distractions from votes on one of us.
Besides, the other wagons are Pie and Bubba.
Pie's wagon is scummy, and Pie's too easy of a target for D1.
The Bubba wagon isn't gaining any speed. Votes there aren't doing anything. Votes should do things.
P-EDIT: Claiming because of exactly what I wrote--to show my conviction and to further confirm myself as town. I'm not into painful anal, and besides, that's how Mr Hands bit the dust.
Yeah, I'm retarded, awesome, now vote for GCBC or fist yourself out of here.
In post 1037, Jaqen Hghar wrote:A man said He was either wrong about Varsoon or Varsoon had gotten better faking his town meta. A man finds it scummy how ProHawk twists a man's words. Where has a man seen him do this before?
Ok, lets work together. Answer in plain terms.
Is Varsoon playing to his town-meta?
Is Varsoon playing to his scum-meta?
~GC
A man has already explained what he saw that looked like Varsoon's scum. Varsoon's town however is reflected in his back to back posting liking and calling the case on himself dumb. That leavs a man on fence. A GCBC lynch will clear it up though because if a man is right and GCBC is scum, Varsoon surely is as well.
Then your scenarios are...
TownGCBC vs ScumVarsoon
TownGCBC vs TownVarsoon
ScumGCBC vs ScumVarsoon
?
Either way, seems like you can imagine more of a possibility of me being scum than town, so put your vote where your words are.
In post 1107, Desperado wrote:
Kaze's 374 starts good but ends poorly. Questioning townreads on yourself is natural, but pieguy clearly stated that he took your contradictory logic (and your accompanying gung-ho attitude) as towntells. The bottom paragraph makes it seem like you only read half of his post and thought you could get some mileage out of calling him out for bad logic/poor reads.
Yeah no. I read it. And my grievances were 1. He was calling me town for contradictory logic which makes no sense. 2. Said he couldn't read me worth a damn(probably true, but then how is he going to call me town for the supposed contradiction? 3. Puts me in his townreads despite not getting a read on me.
But that's old news. bubba should be the lynch today. Varsoon, chill. I don't want either of you dead.
In post 1120, Varsoon wrote:I don't want any distractions from votes on one of us.
No one is interested in a GCBC wagon, so if you really want to 1v1, you're probably going to be the dead one.
If you're town, dying isn't going to help town.
Ergo if you're town, drop this stupid 1v1 shit because it's not going to help town.
In post 1120, Varsoon wrote:The Bubba wagon isn't gaining any speed. Votes there aren't doing anything. Votes should do things.
The wagon has exceeded every other wagon in the last 24 hours. So it's clearly gaining speed. And the votes are clearly doing things.
