Touhou: Mafia in the Land of Fantasy (Game Over)

[Varsoon]

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Varsoon my comment stands, deliver.

I'm here, what do you want me to do? I mean, I can order the pizza, but I dunno if I can also deliver it. :3

A man suggests whichever requires less pants.

You know what's up.


GCBC, not going to go point for point on this. That'd be a fine distraction, but it wouldn't get us anywhere.
I wouldn't mind hammering the claimed bomb.
I'd rather a GCBC lynch. Or something else altogether.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

VOTE: Pie

I still like this best, I guess, in the end. If anyone wants me to case I can case but it's kinda obvious?

[GoodCop_BadCop]

Mollie, I see you're awake, come play with my reads list, I've got a comfy chair ready and everything.

[Varsoon]

Pie wagon is bad wagon.

[Kazekirimaru]

Pie wagon is bad wagon.

Not really, though.

[Varsoon]

I think it is. At best, there's some info to nab there with Pie's recent ISO response posts, but that's it.
Don't think Pie is scum. But, hey, fuck it, I could be wrong.
Also, I want to back you up, Kaze, but my biggest scum-read wants to lynch Pie as well. I really want to put all my bets on you, but I can't do it in good faith. :/
I'm a terrible father.

[Kazekirimaru]

Worry not about it. I'm not even on the wagon.

Though that may change.

Then I might try to seduce you into voting with me again.

[Lush Life]

I thought that messiah might be scum, when you said that he wasn't talking and instead was hiding when everyone else in your clique was arguing and already into the game. Sorry if I didn't get exactly what you said, but following all of these meta reads are hard when there are so many of you.

what was weird was it was something you jumped on when you got your foot in the game and now you are saying that it was cos of a "clique read" and I have no idea what to say next mebbe cos "clique" implies exclusionary behaviour and I am anything about but all of that.

I don't like cliques!

I think the town part of bubba I saw was when he was genuinely angry about being outed. I agree that his crumb was pretty bad, but wouldn't scum be coached into making a better crumb than that?

what I really really want is for the mala half to weigh in on bubba.

like I really really want this.

i am trying to be patient and wait.

[Lush Life]

Mollie, I see you're awake, come play with my reads list, I've got a comfy chair ready and everything.

I saw it but I am still sus that you are even remotely being nice to me after accusing me of a bwrv and carrying it to the level that you did. <--- some may see this as a towntell but I can totally see you doing this as scum. but that is an argument which will only provide diminished returns.

so I cannot authentically give a read on you in the way that you are used to.

there is something flawed in you guyz reads that i can't put my finger on. I am going to go look and mebbe we can talk this out

[GoodCop_BadCop]

I saw it but I am still sus that you are even remotely being nice to me after accusing me of a bwrv and carrying it to the level that you did

It involves me realizing that at the end of the day this is a game and if I'm not gonna attempt to have fun why the fuck did I show up.

[Katarina LeBlanc]

Hey I just woke up. Gonna do stuff because I know exactly what to say regarding the claim of bubba and possibly Kagami.

[Jaqen Hghar]

No, Cadb is correct. Nati is very fond of oddball setups, and balances by fun rather than any objective sense of how often alignments should win. I didn't realize he co-designed this.

p-edit: FG balances strictly...

So, a girl must knows Nati a bit then. What kind of oddball scum roles would she speculate in a Nati game? Town?

[Katarina LeBlanc]

I find it incredibly difficult to believe his claim. A one shot bomb, really? That just seems so odd as is. I'm not sure if that's some sort of bad scumslip or just plain dumb enough to be legitimate. Claiming bomb means you essentially use up your PR already. Meaning your usefulness as a power role is gone, given the nature of your current wagon it's pretty hard to trust you.

What I see in your claim is

"I purposely acted like a good target so that I can bait out their night action because I'm a bomb HAHA"

BUT

Kagami, you seem to have a similar stance as me. Why? Ignore Kaze he's a butt, but tell me more about what you think of the one-shot bomb. Also your crumbing as a swingy role is interesting. Tell me moaar.
Jaqen, tell me more about your role. Did it just say IC or does losing the life (that was striked out) have any significance whatsoever.

I'd need both of them to answer first.

[Katarina LeBlanc]

hi katarina!

I did not eject the fery half from the game? so why the misrep? feel free to point out any insults I laid at their slot?

I have liked some of your posts and I think you have made some good points but I think some of it has been drowned out by your crabbing.

we are getting our hydra in order. sound good? I hope it does. I am trying to figure out if we lean town on you. should we?

What's crabbing.


Also I'd like to think that

Spoiler:

So mollie, do you have any idea how much of a total bitch you are to ffery sometimes? She's townreading you but for fuck's sake girl; your antagonistic snipes at her in game after game are creating a toxic wasteland. Perhaps you think it's the best way for you to read her,

but all you're achieving is pissing her off and ensuring I'm playing alone the next few IRL days.

So now I get to play Mr. intervention. In the middle of day one of a game. And I'm not really happy about that.

Because if we don't lower tension levels a few billion notches?

Ffery is p. much gone till either you die or we die.

And I suck at this game alone. So I'd really rather avoid that.

So, you wanna bitch at us and take potshots at us? Fine. Aim at me. I'm right here, be as much of an asshat as you want towards me.

Because if you keep this shit up I'm gonna do to you what I did to tammy-syr in marketplace. Townread them, and throw them into the corner over THERE where I don't have to deal with their baggage.

Exactly why I've not been a fan of your aggression ever since. Cute how you call it misrepresentation.

[Jaqen Hghar]

A man wonders why Kat must needs know anything but what the mod provided.

[SXTLHGaiden]

After hyper skimming the entire thread looking for the "4 scum" that i thought i saw...
i found this. which is pretty much summarized as

Hawkie and I pegged the fuck out of like

4/6ths of the scumteam

and ate the night two kill for it.

~BC

God dammit, i thought i had something.

[Katarina LeBlanc]

We have a

one-shot

redirect claim and a

one-shot

bomb claim. I'd very much like to know if my theory is accurate.

[SXTLHGaiden]

Kaze, I feel like you're the only dude who knows I'm here so I'm gonna just chat with you and stuff.

I don't have any good reads. I haven't been giving this game much attention. If I rolled scum, this wouldn't be a problem, since, y'know, this game can ramble on without me.
Pieguyn is not on the usual town ball. That's important to notice.
Then again, neither am I.

One of Lush Life, GCBC(previously morph), Kise, Pie, and zMuffin is scum, if not more. Just lynch that list and we'll be gold.

Easy fuckin' peasy.
VOTE: GoodCopBadCop

Hey V, you're town but hoping one from a list of five is scum is not a good return.

Also saw this in hyper-skim.
the probability of at least 1 person being scum in a selection of 5 people is 1- P(no scum in 5 people) = 1 - (16*15*14*13*12)/(21*20*19*18*17) which is about 78.5%.
Assuming 5 man scum team and no other scum.

[SXTLHGaiden]

Last thing before i go to sleep.
For your viewing pleasure.

[UFO]

hellohellohellohello

[UFO]

Seriously screw school, anyway hi guys I am here I will try my best to participate~

[Katarina LeBlanc]

LUSH FUCK YOU. YOU'VE SAID 100 TIMES IM SOFTING A PR, AND KATARINA CAUGHT ON.

Um, what?

^ 4th post: Not importance of strikethrough of Majiffy, and bork's name. I think it ended up being

Then a man is eager to read everyone's surprised reactions when a boy eventually flips scum.

Maybe a man can put it in a context that's easier to follow. A man will even break character this one time so it is plain and blunt. Completely devoid of humor.

you and four of your closest friends plan to rob a bank

in your plan you cover all the surveillance cameras outside the bank

you don't bother discussing the ones inside the bank because, duh, they're everywhere inside covering every angle possible

when you go in, the rest of your team notices nobody else is wearing masks, so they take theirs off to "blend in" while you, having a lick of common sense, keep your mask on your freaking head

who are you going to be ashamed of? the patrons you freaking KNEW weren't going to be hiding their identities? nah, hell fuck nah brah! you're going to be ashamed of your team of bank robbers. who missed the freaking obvious. because they're freaking idiots. and you're going to know who they are so you CAN be ashamed of them because ~ da-duh-daahhh! ~ you're freaking one of them!

Jesus. this isn't brain science. this isn't even meta (though when cabd messes up like this, it has a tendency to implicate his whole team. that part is meta). this is a blatant fuck up. in this thread. about this game. and all the town are ignoring it because he and his fellow bank robber ad homed the shit out of the catch.

the most frustrating part is that a lot of the town who are dismissing this case because of the adhom it drew are telling other players off for working to discredit others instead of their cases. but somehow it's perfectly fine to discredit me while ignoring the case itself COMPLETELY. that's hypocracy.

Now. No more character breaks.

Did you just try to apply the plot of inside man to this game.

[Katarina LeBlanc]

hellohellohellohello

Hi Flonne, after lying to me that other game why should I not murder you relentlessly?


Also pardon the failquote on that previous post, on stupid tablet.

[pieguyn]

VOTE: Pie

I still like this best, I guess, in the end. If anyone wants me to case I can case but it's kinda obvious?

thx for confirming to me you're scum

how convenient that you missed 635. I'd expect you of all people to see it and back down. but nope

also you misrep'd the fuck out of me when you said my read on you was just "following the IC". there was more to it than that and you know it. see my post about you. your "meta" dive on UFO wasn't town motivated at all, + mollie's case + the whole "townslip" deal which is where Jaqen and others were coming from iirc. so there was more to it than that

vote: GCBC

[Tsukasa]

@Su Casa (lol because same pronunciation)

So... if he's shaming scum for "not reading", how is he... scum?
Heck... Why would he even say that to his fellow scum.

How would a boy know who the scum are to know they haven't read and then to shame them for not reading without being scum himself? A man has already answered the second part but will again ~ because scum obviously have no day talk and he needed to get the rest of his team under control. A boy likes control.

If you read the previous page, he was thinking bubba townslipped, said why he townslipped, and apparently no one actually read the opening post, so I do think he's shaming kise, lush life, kaze. Cabd must have read the opening post though, but I don't think his "theory" should apply to him, since why dafuq would he say that? Then he'd just be painting himself red and shouting "Hi guys I'm scum, lynch me pl0x".

@Majiffy you just proved why I won't talk to you. More ad-hom, and general douchebaggery. -_-

xyz were utter bullshit. I said they had no basis. One thing you tried to "prove" I was lying. Prove and assume are 2 different words. Now then please if you have nothing nice to say --- which you don't --- shut the fuck up.

@Kaze: You realize me and Varsoon's wagons are about the same right? how is varsoon's not a counter.

By the way. totally jumping on that train. VOTE: Varsoon

That redirection to the opposing wagon though.

Varsoon (L-7): The Chamber of Kittens | ActionDan | Dramonic | bubbajack8
bubbajack8 (L-7): Lush Life | Katarina LeBlanc | Kazekirimaru | GoodCop_BadCop
pieguyn (L-6): zMuffinMan | Mac | Kise | Amaranth | Varsoon

These are the day's wagons. We have 9 days, so no big rush, but we need to start gathering all these 1-vote and 2-vote wagons onto one of these three wagons.

So if your name is in this list;
YuniChikako, Messiah Complex, UFO, Kagami, Tsukasa, pieguyn, SXTLHGaiden, Varsoon, Jaqen Hghar

It's time to pick sides.

Starting to lean on a side.
Vote shall be found at the end of the post, or the following post after I count votes.

Going to go ahead and claim now, too, to show my conviction.
I'm one-shot redirector, Tewi Inabi, of the Good Girls.
My original plan was to use this power to hope to redirect a night kill onto GCBC, but the chances of guessing right, even with PoE, are low as fuck.
So, eh, why not full-claim and further confirm myself as town (get rekt, GCBC).

If I can still sense legit Varsoon AtE and early claiming...
He's town.

That's if I can still read him correctly

besides that I'm liking how proactive this slot is being

And I like how you get back into your good ol' town self.
Welcome back pieGAY

Also, I like your ambition with the ISOs but you're trying too hard with not enough real results. Everything is resulting in hedge because you're trying to go too fast.

more like I have way too many null reads and I'm having trouble sorting through them all
help me with these people
Kagami
Amaranth [H]
YuniChikako
The Chamber of Kittens Remembrance [H]
Messiah Complex (Desperado + FormerFish) [H]
dramonic
zMuffinMan

Muffin is town
Kagami is lurksack scum along with dram. The fact that you've been saying "This can easily be faked" and stuff should have already hinted how scum they are.

The rest are also huge nulls for me.

bubba's post #1201 is just crappy
How is that a crumb?
Like... if I bloded stuff from what I said earlier in the game, would that be a reasonable crumb?
Like you won't use the same letters over and over AND OVER again.
You're AtE as well.
It looks like a desperate scum trying to wiggle it's way out of a noose.

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VOTE: bubba

Guys
Don't let the wagon slip away.
We were at the brink with just the bubba vs. varsoon wagon.
Don't let the misdirections fool you.
Since varsoon is town, go back to a bubba vote.