Touhou: Mafia in the Land of Fantasy (Game Over)

[Yukari Yakumo]

VC 1.15

SXTLHGaiden (L-10):

SXTLHGaiden

Varsoon (L-9):

ActionDan | dramonic
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bubbajack8 (L-5):

Lush Life | Katarina LeBlanc | Kazekirimaru | Messiah Complex | Tsukasa | The Chamber of Kittens

pieguyn (L-7):

Mac | Kise | Amaranth | GoodCop_BadCop

GoodCop_BadCop (L-7):

Jaqen Hghar | Kagami | pieguyn | Varsoon

Not Voting:

YuniChikako, UFO, zMuffinMan, bubbajack8

With 21 alive, it takes 11 votes to lynch.

Deadline: 1/18/2014 12:00 AM EDT
Counter: (expired on 2014-01-18 01:00:00)

[pieguyn]

@Pie: Damn straight, that's the Pie I know and love. Good work, man. I like Kaze a lot as a player, but I don't know what to think of him this game. I interacted with him a bit to see how he responded to buddying, and, ultimately, I got that he wasn't willing to buddy me hard in response, but didn't push me away either. He also stuck to his scumread on you, Pie, so I figure that he's either really sure of himself or really pushing for the mislynch as scum.

this makes me feel warm and fuzzy :3 especially considering I don't consider myself good at meta

I don't think it's necessarily hard for scum to stick to a scumread on me in his game. I'm a p easy mislynch target (even though we all know I'm never going to be mislynched) so this kind of behaviour is exa ctly what I'd expect from Kaze scum. he sticks to his "read" and keeps rallying votes for me bc he knows he'll probably get them. do you disagree?

also, how do you like the chance of Kaze + GCBC team?

[Varsoon]

It's likely, given their votes and play.
I'm more interested in finding a single scum for today's lynch over figuring out teams, but that seems really likely. GCBC and Kaze have both been on your wagon.

[Kazekirimaru]

these are all very easy angles to push. from what I can tell, town you might make comments on them but you never ask questions like this or try to develop said easy angles. instead you just declare one of your firm stances and call it a day. my conclusion is that when you're scum you want to appear busy so you need to spend more time to develop these easy angles with these shit questions to look like you're legitimately scumhunting and trap people into scumreads. when you're town you don't bother and you come up with way better and more relevant ideas

Oh! You're arguing semantics. Thanks for the clarification.

So, what exactly is wrong with the questions you listed, again? I'm not going through the trouble of pulling up meta of me posing similar questions because that doesn't really prove anything and I'm sure you'll try to find some way to say x =! y anyway. All I can really say is you're wrong and leave it at that. Don't like it? Quit taking shots from the sidelines and commit with a vote on me.

[Amaranth]

That awkward moment when I think all 3 of those slots are town.

Maybe.

VOTE: Messiah Complex

I think that pie posting has been better lately and no longer want to lynch him. Bubba behavior around claim is very loud and genuinely angry. I'm not sure on GCBC being town, but I'm okay with their day 1 content. Meanwhile, I believe that Messiah Complex's catch up felt like it was something they were being forced to do (even two heads catching up half way felt like they were splitting the load of producing content instead of splitting up the load on developing reads), and based on one of Lush's heads talking about them (not sure which one, but it wasn't the one who is pushing bubba) I think that the discomfort I feel from that slot is not what they would be feeling as town.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

I'm aware we've both insulted each other. I'd quite like it to stop.

3 posts later...

inb4 GCBC says because you 'think' they're town, and you don't 'know' you're town, it's a scumslip

I think I really believe what you said in 1419 Varsoon, I really do believe it.

A response to your case coming when I get a significant amount of time.

~GC

[Kazekirimaru]

Maybe.

Hey.

I'm not.

Then what are you implying by stating that scum should be coached into a better crumb?

Explain to me the thing.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

Specific to this game, if the deadline is over before majority hits, the day will end with a plurality lynch.

@Jiffy

[zMuffinMan]

That awkward moment when I think all 3 of those slots are town

that is what i'm currently thinking could be the case

i think there's a better shot at hitting scum by lynching from the players hiding in the background and not really saying much this game

Meanwhile, I believe that Messiah Complex's catch up felt like it was something they were being forced to do (even two heads catching up half way felt like they were splitting the load of producing content instead of splitting up the load on developing reads)

i noticed this as well and i don't really understand the logic behind it, but i didn't mind the desp-head's catch-up

[zMuffinMan]

actually

Vote: Tsukasa

gonna go with my gut here. tsukasa's involvement in this game has felt really off and i get bad vibes from all her long posts

[Lush Life]

That awkward moment when I think all 3 of those slots are town.

Maybe.

VOTE: Messiah Complex

I think that pie posting has been better lately and no longer want to lynch him. Bubba behavior around claim is very loud and genuinely angry. I'm not sure on GCBC being town, but I'm okay with their day 1 content. Meanwhile, I believe that Messiah Complex's catch up felt like it was something they were being forced to do (even two heads catching up half way felt like they were splitting the load of producing content instead of splitting up the load on developing reads), and based on one of Lush's heads talking about them (not sure which one, but it wasn't the one who is pushing bubba) I think that the discomfort I feel from that slot is not what they would be feeling as town.

I think I am in love.

its me mollie. yes messiah is scum. I have been screaming from the rafters that they are scum. I have a hydra with the desperado half and we are actually friends IRL. I know him I know how his brain works he is scum. I think have former fish's about pinned down too and I am scum reading both heads.

I have tried talking to my other heads and borky is getting drowned out by us overall I think and majiffy isn't listening to me wrt any reads even tho I have a better track record for d1 than he does. bubba's claim is terrible but he has made a couple of posts that weren't too bad and I would rather lynch scumessiah now cos I don't trust every1 to do it when I am not not around! they will put this rico suave eau de scum cologne on and the next thing you they will be universally townread.

what did you think about varsoon's "I am against claims!" spiel when he claimed 1 shot redirector for no reason! I found it funny and kind of funny but varsoon often looks scummy so unsure on him.

VOTE: messiah

trust me they want to be lynched lets ease their pain...

gcbc I will help you with varsoon if we are alive tomorrow will you guyz plz trust me on this?

mac you know you wanna

jaqen pretty plz with sugar on top

muffin what say you

kaze you are not going to get pie lynched today I can feel it plz lynch obvscum who is actively lurking the game out.

bubba you will get town points for helping me!!!1!

[zMuffinMan]

i'm not scum reading desp. i was really meh on the formerfish head's catchup post

disclaimer: i trust my ability to read desp like i trust that saki is going to be the next paragon

[Lush Life]

That awkward moment when I think all 3 of those slots are town

that is what i'm currently thinking could be the case

i think there's a better shot at hitting scum by lynching from the players hiding in the background and not really saying much this game

Meanwhile, I believe that Messiah Complex's catch up felt like it was something they were being forced to do (even two heads catching up half way felt like they were splitting the load of producing content instead of splitting up the load on developing reads)

i noticed this as well and i don't really understand the logic behind it, but i didn't mind the desp-head's catch-up

teriyaki is a shiny thing that is flashing light in your eyes and distracting you. lynch messiah

did you ever read my posts on how town moves in herds?

eta: I am scumreading him and my heavy meta reads are rarely wrong so mebbe you should trust mine instead.

[Kazekirimaru]

This is the part where the major wagons break up and we end up with a lame deadline lynch.

Sad.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

This is the part where the major wagons break up and we end up with a lame deadline lynch.

Sad.

It's plruality lynch.




Ok mollie. Okay. I profess no great ability to read desp and if thats where your heart takes you, I will follow. Where is borkie with you on this? 110%?

[Kazekirimaru]

Lame plurality lynch*

Still sad.

[ActionDan]

I'm okay with this direction.

Though UFO is prob-scum let's not forget that either

[bubbajack8]

inb4 GCBC says because you 'think' they're town, and you don't 'know' you're town, it's a scumslip

Lol because know all 3 is better.

@GC_BC that was obviously a joke. He wasn't insulting you. Jeez guys.

Specific to this game, if the deadline is over before majority hits, the day will end with a plurality lynch.

Maybe I'm an idiot, but when I see plural I think multiple, does this mean the one with the most votes is lynched, or that multiple people are lynched? If the latter how many is multiple? If other explain.

@zmuffin- I think scum is in the background. Votes someone not really in the background. dafuq bro? And who do you suggest is in the background?

Ohhh mollie, you know I want dem townpoints, but you're going to have to explain how their catchup readup is scummy due to your brains being alike.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

PLurality lynch means there is a lynch on whoever has the highest wagon, regardless of there being an absolute majority or not.

If everyone was in the not voting camp and one player voted, then they'd lynch the player with one vote against them at deadline.

[Kazekirimaru]

Maybe I'm an idiot, but when I see plural I think multiple, does this mean the one with the most votes is lynched, or that multiple people are lynched? If the latter how many is multiple? If other explain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plurality_(voting)

[Messiah Complex]

Mollie, you should probably rethink whatever you think you know. You failed to scum read us in Fire and Ice and I think you are overreacting to compensate for that. For myself I have had a hard time keeping up with this thread because it is already 58 pages deep and I get somewhat lost in larger game like this, especially when I have worked over 90 hours in the last week. Look at my finished games. Small ones I start out firing, while in larger ones it takes me a bit to get going.

We have been giving our reads as we go, so you can even see the evolution of those reads. I realize that giving reads 20 pages after the fact may seem pointless, but this is how we work. At least in this game.

If you want to dance, lets dance. If you have already made up your mind then do what you do.

[Lush Life]

This is the part where the major wagons break up and we end up with a lame deadline lynch.

Sad.

It's plruality lynch.




Ok mollie. Okay. I profess no great ability to read desp and if thats where your heart takes you, I will follow. Where is borkie with you on this? 110%?

I think borky will trust me here for the reasons I have given. desp and I have hit that point where we are pretty transparent to each other, it happens in hydras sometimes. mac and I haven been there, nacho and majiffy too to some degree. mastina and I didn't even have to have a hydra to get there lol. we just think alike. I think you know what I am talking about here.

you obtain your meta reads differently than I do, they are more based on data mining and pattern matching yeah? mine is a good bit different. mine are based on understanding a person through interaction and study. the only argument that I can make that you might understand is that desp said that he was there for me when he went after your earlier posts but I did not say, "desp where the fuck are you, you should be backing me up here!" until much later so that kind of points to him having actively lurked and knowing what was going on in the game but hiding behind a smokescreen of catch-up posts. <---- does this make sense?

[Lush Life]

Mollie, you should probably rethink whatever you think you know. You failed to scum read us in Fire and Ice and I think you are overreacting to compensate for that. For myself I have had a hard time keeping up with this thread because it is already 58 pages deep and I get somewhat lost in larger game like this, especially when I have worked over 90 hours in the last week. Look at my finished games. Small ones I start out firing, while in larger ones it takes me a bit to get going.

We have been giving our reads as we go, so you can even see the evolution of those reads. I realize that giving reads 20 pages after the fact may seem pointless, but this is how we work. At least in this game.

If you want to dance, lets dance. If you have already made up your mind then do what you do.

no I was leaning scum on you guys in asofai but I wasn't sure and you know I never want to lynch you unless I am pretty sure. I don't even want to lynch then. plus I wanted you to try to help me lynch quadzy pants but it just was not happening. I wasn't expecting to die so early since their were a lot more prominent players in the game so i left a muddy trail. my bad

also this is a total beetlejuice post from you

[Messiah Complex]

I am active now because this is the first day I've had off in a week. I am catching up on a lot of shit right now. You can call it what you want but I am currently trying to get fully caught up in the thread so at least one of us can say we aren't playing catch up. I am at post #604 right now and smack dab in the middle of the Lush/Cabd/Jaqen discussion. I checked the most current page to see where all the votes were at and skimmed that page, saw our name as a vote from you and was a little shocked.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

@GC_BC that was obviously a joke. He wasn't insulting you. Jeez guys.

Kinda felt like an insult to me, not to mention he said he was done with us? Which I believe you said was a town post?

~GC