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Post Post #1650 (ISO) » Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:40 pm

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In post 1648, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:
Spoiler: For Pieguy
To start with ffery and I had an initial townread on UFO for the way he responded to my instant-on pressure about his homesite; it reminded us of how nacho did that to me, and of my reactions, in my first large. (Xenoblade chronicles, I can link the exchange if you'd like)

History of some other sites ensures here.

I first played pokemon on pokegym; a web forum designed around discussion of the pokemon TCG. It played some large role madness games, won some, lost some, but had fun. Then, there was an implosion in the community where a moderator of a game actively maniuplated activity modkills to favor his brother's team. The resulting bickering and fallout caused that site's admins to remove the werewolf community entirely. Some players stopped playing. Some found other homes, such as sixprizes, Pokémon online, or mafiascum. Examples from mafiascum include PMysterious, Paid Pyro, Prohawk, Angry Pidgeon, myself, Waynegg, and 3dicerolling. A good majority of us also moved offsite to sixprizes, where I'm a forum mod; and play there in addition.

The average age on these mafia subforums, unlike mafiascum, is usually below 16. Therefore a lot of the tells and quirks here don't apply. One thing that players newer to the game do a lot is get an early townread from one or two vocal players, and then spend the rest of the day lurking it out. I can point to the specific games if you want, Pie.

Basically, my townread of UFO sunk when he had a decent start, got a townread or two from some vocal people, and then.... nothing. The "I've got class" excuse is another common thing from that group.

Prohawk, upon his initial replace in and read, had pretty much the exact same thought. That's why we indicated a scum read upon him in our consolidated reads post. Him actually going ahead and replacing out places that read in flux, and we are hoping the replacement gives us more to work with.
Eh. Well...I believe you believe this is a good read? But yeah. Replacements.
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Post Post #1651 (ISO) » Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:46 pm

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In post 1637, pieguyn wrote:
In post 1600, Jaqen Hghar wrote:One of a man's scum reads protecting another of a man's scum reads...
do we have the same gog damn reads or what
like I srsly had both katarina and kaze as scum before this whole clusterfuck 0.0
why is katarina scum? and what do you make of kaze's reaction? do you think he can fake it as scum?
In post 1605, Katarina LeBlanc wrote:
In post 1600, Jaqen Hghar wrote: One of a man's scum reads protecting another of a man's scum reads...
I'm a scumread?

So if I'm correct your scumpile right now is the exact opposite of my townpile. That being Kaze, Varsoon, GCBC, and Lush.

I'm sorry but despite being IC you have pretty bad reads >:O
explain Kaze town

this is another scum motivated comment btw. you just say he has bad reads without explaining why they're bad. as it is it just looks like you're discrediting. do you generally make comments like this? 0.0
In post 1603, Lush Life wrote:in other newz messiah continues to bathe with scumsoap and somehow people are ignoring this. it boggles the mind.
tell me more \o/
A man thinks anybody is capable of anything if they put their minds to it. A man has explained his reads so please ISO as a man is at work and on his 30 minute lunch break so doesn't have much time.
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Post Post #1652 (ISO) » Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:52 pm

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In post 1650, Kazekirimaru wrote:
In post 1648, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:
Spoiler: For Pieguy
To start with ffery and I had an initial townread on UFO for the way he responded to my instant-on pressure about his homesite; it reminded us of how nacho did that to me, and of my reactions, in my first large. (Xenoblade chronicles, I can link the exchange if you'd like)

History of some other sites ensures here.

I first played pokemon on pokegym; a web forum designed around discussion of the pokemon TCG. It played some large role madness games, won some, lost some, but had fun. Then, there was an implosion in the community where a moderator of a game actively maniuplated activity modkills to favor his brother's team. The resulting bickering and fallout caused that site's admins to remove the werewolf community entirely. Some players stopped playing. Some found other homes, such as sixprizes, Pokémon online, or mafiascum. Examples from mafiascum include PMysterious, Paid Pyro, Prohawk, Angry Pidgeon, myself, Waynegg, and 3dicerolling. A good majority of us also moved offsite to sixprizes, where I'm a forum mod; and play there in addition.

The average age on these mafia subforums, unlike mafiascum, is usually below 16. Therefore a lot of the tells and quirks here don't apply. One thing that players newer to the game do a lot is get an early townread from one or two vocal players, and then spend the rest of the day lurking it out. I can point to the specific games if you want, Pie.

Basically, my townread of UFO sunk when he had a decent start, got a townread or two from some vocal people, and then.... nothing. The "I've got class" excuse is another common thing from that group.

Prohawk, upon his initial replace in and read, had pretty much the exact same thought. That's why we indicated a scum read upon him in our consolidated reads post. Him actually going ahead and replacing out places that read in flux, and we are hoping the replacement gives us more to work with.
Eh. Well...I believe you believe this is a good read? But yeah. Replacements.
I don't like this post.
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Post Post #1653 (ISO) » Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:04 pm

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Lynch this, or kill it with fire, or shove it down a garbage disposal with some ice and lemon and turn that shit on, or tie them down and hit them with bars of soap wrapped in knee length socks. Any way you choose, know that scum lies here.
Spoiler:
In post 81, Adaptive Heap wrote:I don't care how far we got pushed in RVS. If there was a five-post speedlynch then if town doesn't insta-lynch the hammerer day 2 then town in this game has some problems.

You've voted twice and both have been second votes on top of an existing vote, that's accurate, right?

There was a sense of humour in your RVS vote which I liked, a sense of 'dark impending things' in your vote on DOMO, and I don't quite grok (hi Beli) this most recent post which *still* seems to be promoting a lynch as soon as possible.

I'll wait out the day asking every question I feel is relevant to get reads, communicate my preferences for lynch and the reasons, and ask for feedback. I'll be around 24 hours before deadline. At least for a window of a few hours.

Why do you want a lynch to happen right now?
If you're town, do you have any inclination to reason on this?
I mean, running someone up is not a thing in this game.


@Kaze
- Do you read that gambit as a scum gambit, or are you just reacting to the fact that he chose you for his focus?
In post 1603, Lush Life wrote:I really hate day vig shoot gambits mebbe cos I have fallen for them twice.

right now I am trying to figure out if the scumteam decided to come up with the most improbable safeclaims.

in other newz messiah continues to bathe with scumsoap and somehow people are ignoring this. it boggles the mind.
That is funny Mollie, cause I remember a few times last night when I reached out to you offering to dance and being snubbed. Do you actually want to make sure your read is correct or are you just going to read everything we do now with confbias? I'd love to help you figure out where your read went wrong, maybe you should just listen to Majiffy, he seems to have a better grasp on us right now. And seriously, can you guys get your fucking shit together with reads? You are confusing as fuck to read right now because every post contradicts the last. If you are experiencing hydra dissonance then sort it out before spamming the thread with what should be in your qt. Kthanxbai.
In post 1652, The Chamber of Kittens wrote:
In post 1650, Kazekirimaru wrote:
In post 1648, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:
Spoiler: For Pieguy
To start with ffery and I had an initial townread on UFO for the way he responded to my instant-on pressure about his homesite; it reminded us of how nacho did that to me, and of my reactions, in my first large. (Xenoblade chronicles, I can link the exchange if you'd like)

History of some other sites ensures here.

I first played pokemon on pokegym; a web forum designed around discussion of the pokemon TCG. It played some large role madness games, won some, lost some, but had fun. Then, there was an implosion in the community where a moderator of a game actively maniuplated activity modkills to favor his brother's team. The resulting bickering and fallout caused that site's admins to remove the werewolf community entirely. Some players stopped playing. Some found other homes, such as sixprizes, Pokémon online, or mafiascum. Examples from mafiascum include PMysterious, Paid Pyro, Prohawk, Angry Pidgeon, myself, Waynegg, and 3dicerolling. A good majority of us also moved offsite to sixprizes, where I'm a forum mod; and play there in addition.

The average age on these mafia subforums, unlike mafiascum, is usually below 16. Therefore a lot of the tells and quirks here don't apply. One thing that players newer to the game do a lot is get an early townread from one or two vocal players, and then spend the rest of the day lurking it out. I can point to the specific games if you want, Pie.

Basically, my townread of UFO sunk when he had a decent start, got a townread or two from some vocal people, and then.... nothing. The "I've got class" excuse is another common thing from that group.

Prohawk, upon his initial replace in and read, had pretty much the exact same thought. That's why we indicated a scum read upon him in our consolidated reads post. Him actually going ahead and replacing out places that read in flux, and we are hoping the replacement gives us more to work with.
Eh. Well...I believe you believe this is a good read? But yeah. Replacements.
I don't like this post.
Agreed, I don't like the whole idea of rebooting reads based on replacements. If the slot has shown itself to be scummy then it is scummy until proven otherwise. A new player can come in and town it the fuck up, but they also do so with the knowledge that their slot was being scum read.
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Post Post #1654 (ISO) » Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:06 pm

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In post 1653, Messiah Complex wrote:
In post 1652, The Chamber of Kittens wrote:
In post 1650, Kazekirimaru wrote:
In post 1648, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:
Spoiler: For Pieguy
To start with ffery and I had an initial townread on UFO for the way he responded to my instant-on pressure about his homesite; it reminded us of how nacho did that to me, and of my reactions, in my first large. (Xenoblade chronicles, I can link the exchange if you'd like)

History of some other sites ensures here.

I first played pokemon on pokegym; a web forum designed around discussion of the pokemon TCG. It played some large role madness games, won some, lost some, but had fun. Then, there was an implosion in the community where a moderator of a game actively maniuplated activity modkills to favor his brother's team. The resulting bickering and fallout caused that site's admins to remove the werewolf community entirely. Some players stopped playing. Some found other homes, such as sixprizes, Pokémon online, or mafiascum. Examples from mafiascum include PMysterious, Paid Pyro, Prohawk, Angry Pidgeon, myself, Waynegg, and 3dicerolling. A good majority of us also moved offsite to sixprizes, where I'm a forum mod; and play there in addition.

The average age on these mafia subforums, unlike mafiascum, is usually below 16. Therefore a lot of the tells and quirks here don't apply. One thing that players newer to the game do a lot is get an early townread from one or two vocal players, and then spend the rest of the day lurking it out. I can point to the specific games if you want, Pie.

Basically, my townread of UFO sunk when he had a decent start, got a townread or two from some vocal people, and then.... nothing. The "I've got class" excuse is another common thing from that group.

Prohawk, upon his initial replace in and read, had pretty much the exact same thought. That's why we indicated a scum read upon him in our consolidated reads post. Him actually going ahead and replacing out places that read in flux, and we are hoping the replacement gives us more to work with.
Eh. Well...I believe you believe this is a good read? But yeah. Replacements.
I don't like this post.
Agreed, I don't like the whole idea of rebooting reads based on replacements. If the slot has shown itself to be scummy then it is scummy until proven otherwise. A new player can come in and town it the fuck up, but they also do so with the knowledge that their slot was being scum read.
I don't like this post.
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Post Post #1655 (ISO) » Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:19 pm

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In post 1651, Jaqen Hghar wrote: A man thinks anybody is capable of anything if they put their minds to it. A man has explained his reads so please ISO as a man is at work and on his 30 minute lunch break so doesn't have much time.
By that logic there's no such things as towntells since anyone can possibly do anything ever.
In post 1653, Messiah Complex wrote:Lynch this, or kill it with fire, or shove it down a garbage disposal with some ice and lemon and turn that shit on, or tie them down and hit them with bars of soap wrapped in knee length socks. Any way you choose, know that scum lies here.
Spoiler:
In post 81, Adaptive Heap wrote:I don't care how far we got pushed in RVS. If there was a five-post speedlynch then if town doesn't insta-lynch the hammerer day 2 then town in this game has some problems.

You've voted twice and both have been second votes on top of an existing vote, that's accurate, right?

There was a sense of humour in your RVS vote which I liked, a sense of 'dark impending things' in your vote on DOMO, and I don't quite grok (hi Beli) this most recent post which *still* seems to be promoting a lynch as soon as possible.

I'll wait out the day asking every question I feel is relevant to get reads, communicate my preferences for lynch and the reasons, and ask for feedback. I'll be around 24 hours before deadline. At least for a window of a few hours.

Why do you want a lynch to happen right now?
If you're town, do you have any inclination to reason on this?
I mean, running someone up is not a thing in this game.
I don't understand what you're trying to say with this spoiled quote.
In post 1653, Messiah Complex wrote:
@Kaze
- Do you read that gambit as a scum gambit, or are you just reacting to the fact that he chose you for his focus?
Yes.
In post 1653, Messiah Complex wrote: Agreed, I don't like the whole idea of rebooting reads based on replacements. If the slot has shown itself to be scummy then it is scummy until proven otherwise. A new player can come in and town it the fuck up, but they also do so with the knowledge that their slot was being scum read.
You misunderstand. I didn't get any reads of my own off UFO, so I need the replacement to do...something. I was basically saying cool story bro.

Unless you're referring to GC_BC, then I shrug.
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Post Post #1656 (ISO) » Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:25 pm

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Ok, that spoiler fucked up somehow, it was supposed to be a Dramonic quote where he quote strips and then has one work responses to. Thats my bad, not sure how that happened.
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Post Post #1657 (ISO) » Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:08 pm

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Kaze, stop.

GC_BC, I thought you were going to vote Messiah Complex?
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Post Post #1658 (ISO) » Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:09 pm

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gcbc if I am usually right then why are you not sheeping my vote?

also:
You can attack my play, you can attack my motives, you can attack my intelligence, you do NOT attack my honor.
I would just like to point out that this is EXACTLY what you did to me, by reducing my interactions with fery (lol even tho it seems it was you I was scumreading?) into a bwrv so much that the gm felt the need to talk to me about it!
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Post Post #1659 (ISO) » Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:10 pm

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Firstly, other head voted. Secondly, I don't recall ever calling you a cheater, let me know if I did so I can make it right.

I'm also waiting to hear back from fish on the mini chunk he wanted from me that he's not following up on, the Devil Advocate thingie.
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Post Post #1660 (ISO) » Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:15 pm

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In post 1659, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:Firstly, other head voted. Secondly, I don't recall ever calling you a cheater, let me know if I did so I can make it right.

I'm also waiting to hear back from fish on the mini chunk he wanted from me that he's not following up on, the Devil Advocate thingie.
Sorry, went to bed and then woke up to a fake shooting, so I was distracted. Looking now.
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Post Post #1661 (ISO) » Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:17 pm

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In post 1657, Amaranth wrote:Kaze, stop.
Pardon?
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Post Post #1662 (ISO) » Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:18 pm

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I just realized the similarities between Messiah Complex's avatar and the one I just changed to. Hah.
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Post Post #1663 (ISO) » Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:19 pm

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In post 1653, Messiah Complex wrote: That is funny Mollie, cause I remember a few times last night when I reached out to you offering to dance and being snubbed. Do you actually want to make sure your read is correct or are you just going to read everything we do now with confbias? I'd love to help you figure out where your read went wrong, maybe you should just listen to Majiffy, he seems to have a better grasp on us right now. And seriously, can you guys get your fucking shit together with reads? You are confusing as fuck to read right now because every post contradicts the last. If you are experiencing hydra dissonance then sort it out before spamming the thread with what should be in your qt. Kthanxbai.
I didn't snub either of you!

we danced and you were too swaddled in scummy blankets to recognise it or even do it properly
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Post Post #1664 (ISO) » Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:31 pm

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In post 1538, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:
In post 1537, Messiah Complex wrote:How is FFery's scum game?
Ffery as a solo player has a much weaker scumgame than I do. As our hydra, morph, we have a 100% scum winrate.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=30839
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=31267
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=30234

Ffery has been pegged by mollie on day one before. That game was xenoblade chronicles, where she sat there and ate the day one lynch. Could she have kept it up if we were scum? I can't say for sure. But one of the cited reasons when she apologized to me upon leaving was that she was tired of repeating this over and over again, citing the parallels to The Walking Dead (where mollie scumread ffery incorrectly) and to Xenogears (remember day one early?). I don't think ffery would ever willingly get into one of these fights. I mean for fuck's sake she was so distressed she went global VLA for several days to get over the events of this game day. Mollie's ability to read ffery itself is a mixed bag. Mollie claims to have perfected the art, but she's been wrong a few times.

As for your other paragraph, my townread on that slot is based primarily upon the other two heads's posts. Ffery can supposedly tell when mollie's legit upset and when she's faking it, and left them as more town than jaquen in our hydra chat when she left. Could mollie know that tunneling us would make ffery react like that? I can't say for sure. But I don't think mollie is the kind of player that would alienate somebody she once enjoyed playing with to the point of blacklisting each other (or damn near) for a single scumgame mislynch, and I don't think that the other two heads would react as they are now if it was staged.

That said, our innocent child's main account is on both mine and ffery's blacklist, and I very much doubt either of us would have remained in signups had we known who it was. The mollie fight just complicated things. The reason I remain in the game is because I have a personal policy of never replacing out of games EVER. Prohawk was nice enough to join me here.
You mention Xenogears, a game I am unfamiliar with. Although I have seen that one mentioned many times now in my games, maybe I should go back and read it for posterity sake. How accurate would you say that Mollie is when reading Ffery? You say that she thinks to have perfected the art, but has been wrong a few times. Are we talking a 75% correct rate, worse/better? I am not liking the way that she is trying to read us right now, because she is dead fucking wrong, and I am trying to sort you guys out as well. She read you as scum, and you obvi claim to not be scum. She is screaming to the heavens that we are scum and she is wrong about us, so it seriously makes me wonder about her read on you guys as well.

I think we are in the same boat when trying to read Lush. I like Majiffy right now, cause he is reading us correctly and we are agreeing on some of his other reads as well. Bork is null because I can't really remember much that he has done. Mollie is acting like scum or severely misguided town. I think that she is being more paranoid than she need to be because of the ASOFAI game that we just played. I can see the argument for similar play styles in the two games, but there are glaring difference that should be talked about too. FAI we had bullshit catch up posts that should have been called out with more fervor than we received. In this game we are actually giving reads and support for our reads as we go. I marathoned like 40 pages yesterday and had to slog through page after page after page of shit. During that I am trying to engage people in the current part of the topic because I realized that ignoring the new stuff to catch up on the old stuff is a shitty way to catch up. Desp and I have since decided that while he is still catching up I will engage in most of the newer posting. He has tried to reach out to Mollie, as have I, and she isn't feeling playful apparently.

I feel you on not replacing out, I think it is a bitch move for the most part. I am unaware of the history that you guys have with the IC (Waynegg?) yet have seen him play in a game before. I can understand how the Mollie thing could complicate things, but you can see why I am reaching out to you to attempt to sort that slot out right now.

I have been getting more and more of a town read off of you, which makes me wonder about Lush. Does Mollie have a history of "misreading" either of you guys when she is scum to spread some mist around, or does she try to buddy up to you?
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Post Post #1665 (ISO) » Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:38 pm

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Can someone tell me what ASOFAI stands for? It's obviously a game - I'd like to read it since it's been mentioned like fifteen times.
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Post Post #1666 (ISO) » Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:39 pm

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In post 1665, Kazekirimaru wrote:Can someone tell me what ASOFAI stands for? It's obviously a game - I'd like to read it since it's been mentioned like fifteen times.
It's the large theme game that just finished. A uPick of Ice & Fire

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Post Post #1667 (ISO) » Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:45 pm

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In post 1621, Varsoon wrote:Thanks for blowing it, man.
It's worked before.
In post 1622, Varsoon wrote:Like what town motivation would you ever have to blow it like that?
:l
It's dumb it's fluff and do you believe cadb who has been meticulous would fall for such a cheap trick
I'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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Post Post #1668 (ISO) » Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:50 pm

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In post 1445, Messiah Complex wrote:Mollie, you should probably rethink whatever you think you know. You failed to scum read us in Fire and Ice and I think you are overreacting to compensate for that. For myself I have had a hard time keeping up with this thread because it is already 58 pages deep and I get somewhat lost in larger game like this, especially when I have worked over 90 hours in the last week. Look at my finished games. Small ones I start out firing, while in larger ones it takes me a bit to get going.

We have been giving our reads as we go, so you can even see the evolution of those reads. I realize that giving reads 20 pages after the fact may seem pointless, but this is how we work. At least in this game.

If you want to dance, lets dance. If you have already made up your mind then do what you do.
In post 1447, Lush Life wrote:
In post 1445, Messiah Complex wrote:Mollie, you should probably rethink whatever you think you know. You failed to scum read us in Fire and Ice and I think you are overreacting to compensate for that. For myself I have had a hard time keeping up with this thread because it is already 58 pages deep and I get somewhat lost in larger game like this, especially when I have worked over 90 hours in the last week. Look at my finished games. Small ones I start out firing, while in larger ones it takes me a bit to get going.

We have been giving our reads as we go, so you can even see the evolution of those reads. I realize that giving reads 20 pages after the fact may seem pointless, but this is how we work. At least in this game.

If you want to dance, lets dance. If you have already made up your mind then do what you do.
no I was leaning scum on you guys in asofai but I wasn't sure and you know I never want to lynch you unless I am pretty sure. I don't even want to lynch then. plus I wanted you to try to help me lynch quadzy pants but it just was not happening. I wasn't expecting to die so early since their were a lot more prominent players in the game so i left a muddy trail. my bad

also this is a total beetlejuice post from you
In post 1448, Messiah Complex wrote:I am active now because this is the first day I've had off in a week. I am catching up on a lot of shit right now. You can call it what you want but I am currently trying to get fully caught up in the thread so at least one of us can say we aren't playing catch up. I am at post #604 right now and smack dab in the middle of the Lush/Cabd/Jaqen discussion. I checked the most current page to see where all the votes were at and skimmed that page, saw our name as a vote from you and was a little shocked.
In post 1455, Lush Life wrote:
In post 1448, Messiah Complex wrote:I am active now because this is the first day I've had off in a week. I am catching up on a lot of shit right now. You can call it what you want but I am currently trying to get fully caught up in the thread so at least one of us can say we aren't playing catch up. I am at post #604 right now and smack dab in the middle of the Lush/Cabd/Jaqen discussion. I checked the most current page to see where all the votes were at and skimmed that page, saw our name as a vote from you and was a little shocked.
don't make this harder than it already is! I know what days you had off this week and I know you were active on site!

you have had time to post in this game!
In post 1457, Messiah Complex wrote:You realize that Desp signs his posts while FF does not. I am Formerfish, and unless you are stalking me you don't know what you are talking about.
In post 1469, Messiah Complex wrote:Guess you don't want to dance Mollie? Were you hoping that we would be an easier target?

Bubba, Mollie barely knows me and I doubt her ability to read me. I used a game we recently had together as an example.
In post 1473, Lush Life wrote:
In post 1469, Messiah Complex wrote:Guess you don't want to dance Mollie? Were you hoping that we would be an easier target?

Bubba, Mollie barely knows me and I doubt her ability to read me. I used a game we recently had together as an example.
have you taken the nacho approach then which is to just troll? lol

for some reason people always read him as town for it too.

if you want to dance, lets dance
In post 1475, Messiah Complex wrote:Jesus, so what happens when we do flip town? Mollie you falling on a sword for that, or is the same thing that happens anytime a mislynch occurs, people move on to the next candidate?
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In post 1475, Messiah Complex wrote:Jesus, so what happens when we do flip town? Mollie you falling on a sword for that, or is the same thing that happens anytime a mislynch occurs, people move on to the next candidate?
well I will look at the incredible effort you put into your posts. and the timing and wonder they had to be beetlejuiced.

and what that says about your partners!
In post 1494, Messiah Complex wrote:
In post 1485, Lush Life wrote:
In post 1475, Messiah Complex wrote:Jesus, so what happens when we do flip town? Mollie you falling on a sword for that, or is the same thing that happens anytime a mislynch occurs, people move on to the next candidate?
well I will look at the incredible effort you put into your posts. and the timing and wonder they had to be beetlejuiced.

and what that says about your partners!
You are tilting at windmills here and if you are town you are destroying what could have been a beautiful relationship in this game. If you are scum then by all means continue down this path and you will surely help town win after our untimely death.
In post 1517, Messiah Complex wrote:I am starting to feel like most of you see Messiah Complex as an alt for Desp. I don't want it to seem like I am pulling a Jan Brady here, but it's a hydra. One that I am part of as well. Hi guys, I'm Formerfish. I'm a gemini, have a new baby, got engaged in July, love comic books, and I play fucking mafia. I haven't been onsite for long but have played a good number of games in the time I have been here.

tl:dr- this is a hydra of Desperado and Formerfish. Please keep that in mind.

Also, still waiting for you to pick me up off your dance card Mollie. Unless you were being disingenuous about wanting to solidfy/sort your read on us.
In post 1596, Messiah Complex wrote:
In post 1451, Mac wrote:
Vote: Messiah


bcuz I luv mollie.

dearest, what did you make of their catchup post? fake? using quote links to hide what points they're making?
How the fuck is a link directly to the post that I'm referring to "hiding the point that I'm making?"

If you guys don't want us to read the whole game you can just say so.

@ mollie: I'm posting elsewhere but not here because I didn't want to post anything without having fully caught up. Your scumread fucking BLOWS and you should be ashamed of yourself.

- Des
In post 1663, Lush Life wrote:
In post 1653, Messiah Complex wrote: That is funny Mollie, cause I remember a few times last night when I reached out to you offering to dance and being snubbed. Do you actually want to make sure your read is correct or are you just going to read everything we do now with confbias? I'd love to help you figure out where your read went wrong, maybe you should just listen to Majiffy, he seems to have a better grasp on us right now. And seriously, can you guys get your fucking shit together with reads? You are confusing as fuck to read right now because every post contradicts the last. If you are experiencing hydra dissonance then sort it out before spamming the thread with what should be in your qt. Kthanxbai.
I didn't snub either of you!

we danced and you were too swaddled in scummy blankets to recognise it or even do it properly
Mollie. Come here. Real talk. Where in this exchange are we dancing? I have seen you dance before, hell I've seen you dance in
this game
and I don't see us dancing. I see you continuing a bad read with little evidence. I see you trivializing my reach out to you saying that I am trolling. I see you calling my activity beetlejuicing when it should be obvious to anyone with a fucking brain that I have been active on site for the last 2 days. I see you assuming that Desp is the only one of us posting, and making your read off of him. I see you saying that you have a bead on me as a player and I call that shit into severe fucking question. I see you repeatedly dodging me when I am here and trying to interact with you. I see you engage in confbias all over the place. So I'm sorry if I missed your
obvious
attempts to dance with me, but I don't fucking see it.
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Post Post #1669 (ISO) » Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:51 pm

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In post 1666, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:
In post 1665, Kazekirimaru wrote:Can someone tell me what ASOFAI stands for? It's obviously a game - I'd like to read it since it's been mentioned like fifteen times.
It's the large theme game that just finished. A uPick of Ice & Fire

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=31262
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Post Post #1670 (ISO) » Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:51 pm

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Oh god the pagecount

maybe i'll read it later
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Post Post #1671 (ISO) » Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:18 pm

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In post 1635, pieguyn wrote:Therefore, positing that I'm just claiming a 'Slayers Gambit' instead of actually doing it (which, if you look, I actually did) is a lie. In post 1230, GCBC directly speaks about my gambit and calls it scummy, which means that he does acknowledge that I actually did perform the gambit—this stands in direct contradiction of him acting as if I just claimed a gambit
Cabd didn't get to this, so I will.

I actually don't understand Varsoon's point here, but I think he is saying that we claimed he performed a Slayers Gambit but somehow said he didn't do it and then we "acknowledge" that he did perform the gambit which goes against us acting as if he only claimed a gambit (but didn't do one).

Basically isn't true, or was lost in translation or something.

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Post Post #1672 (ISO) » Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:20 pm

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to the above post :roll:

I am going to take a moment to discuss fery even tho I feel like it is kind of wrong but cabd is using her as crutch and he really ought not to do that.

it will also require a good amount of disclosure.

fery and I come from the same homesite. we have been playing for years and have over a silly amount of games together plus I have always signed up for her games that she has gmed. we have also played on multiple sites! how about that.

we have had a bunch of blowups <---- too many to count really. for the most part I have read her correctly when there were not other things like some1 having srs issues and posting everywhere (and when I say everywhere I mean across a couple of different boards) that she was scum. <---- how could some1 do that to their scummate? so I backed down from a read I had on her in favor that she was town due to me thinking some1 could not be that much of an asshole. still had feelings she was scum tho, but voted cos even if she was, she deserved the win.

twd was a hydra thing. in xenogears I pushed on her in order to get a read. once I got it was good yeah? it also had to do with this weird meta tell that fery thought I had on her. according to her, she thought that I scumread her when she put me down. cos she used to do it a lot when scum. but it was something I always associated with her scum game never her town game. somehow she got confused on this site and thought it was the inverse. <---- don't ask me how, I have pet theories but that is all that they are.

so my read on fery has a pretty good track record! what I am offering is the negatives cos that is what you people leap upon. but what I am saying is there are like 50 other games where I read her correctly.

take that as you will.
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Post Post #1673 (ISO) » Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:22 pm

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In post 1672, bazinga wrote:to the above post :roll:

I am going to take a moment to discuss fery even tho I feel like it is kind of wrong but cabd is using her as crutch and he really ought not to do that.

it will also require a good amount of disclosure.

fery and I come from the same homesite. we have been playing for years and have over a silly amount of games together plus I have always signed up for her games that she has gmed. we have also played on multiple sites! how about that.

we have had a bunch of blowups <---- too many to count really. for the most part I have read her correctly when there were not other things like some1 having srs issues and posting everywhere (and when I say everywhere I mean across a couple of different boards) that she was scum. <---- how could some1 do that to their scummate? so I backed down from a read I had on her in favor that she was town due to me thinking some1 could not be that much of an asshole. still had feelings she was scum tho, but voted cos even if she was, she deserved the win.

twd was a hydra thing. in xenogears I pushed on her in order to get a read. once I got it was good yeah? it also had to do with this weird meta tell that fery thought I had on her. according to her, she thought that I scumread her when she put me down. cos she used to do it a lot when scum. but it was something I always associated with her scum game never her town game. somehow she got confused on this site and thought it was the inverse. <---- don't ask me how, I have pet theories but that is all that they are.

so my read on fery has a pretty good track record! what I am offering is the negatives cos that is what you people leap upon. but what I am saying is there are like 50 other games where I read her correctly.

take that as you will.
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Post Post #1674 (ISO) » Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:33 pm

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@ messiah

Mollie. Come here. Real talk. Where in this exchange are we dancing? I have seen you dance before, hell I've seen you dance in this game and I don't see us dancing. I see you continuing a bad read with little evidence. I see you trivializing my reach out to you saying that I am trolling. I see you calling my activity beetlejuicing when it should be obvious to anyone with a fucking brain that I have been active on site for the last 2 days. I see you assuming that Desp is the only one of us posting, and making your read off of him. I see you saying that you have a bead on me as a player and I call that shit into severe fucking question. I see you repeatedly dodging me when I am here and trying to interact with you. I see you engage in confbias all over the place. So I'm sorry if I missed your obvious attempts to dance with me, but I don't fucking see it.
DIE SCUM DIE!!!!

those are not all of our exchanges!

lol

in all srsness you guys are scum
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