Open 541 - Too Many Heads Mafia (Game Over)

[Ansuz]

Reads

Town

Generically Purple - When mara rolls scum she tosses Nacho in either bin and focuses on other things; as town, she sorts him in ways that can only be described as "unconventional."

bazinga - If anyone even considers doubting bazingatown after #358, may We have mercy on your soul.

mhork and Mindy - Nothing that can't be WIFOMed, but we agree that Mhork could legitimately believe the contradiction was a scumtell, so while the attack was bad it was also so hamfisted and unlikely to gain traction that it's more likely coming from town.

Squirrel Girl - I appreciate the willingness to bandwagon and early malleability, that's a good sign.

Rancid Broderick Drake - Fuck the haters, the pirate gimmick rocks and I'll oppose their lynch on those grounds alone until at least D3. Deal with it.

Null

Athenas Fury - Fish's first wall post was null, and Nacho thought Tammy's entrance post was "null and lame." <----Not a good sign.

165 Trolls - I don't see a lot of effort from this hydra to cut through the shit. I didn't know what 80% of their posts were referring to in isolation. Mhork and Mindy vote is a nice change of pace--but it's a bad vote. Step it up guys.

Yggdra Union - Nacho says town because ~reasons~, I have no idea.

Stuffed Crust, Si and Am, - where the fuck are you guys

Scum

PFR - Neither of us liked ETL's #293 nor AP's entrance later on that same page. They're also coatriding mollie's read on us while simultaneously reading mollie as scum--it's all just generally icky and needs to die.

Clubhouse - #78 is a Scumrir post; townCeph might not realize Nacho was trolling and toss out a scumread, or he might catch the trolling and ignore it, but he wouldn't throw out a weak "Seriously, stahp trolling" out there. And his reaction to mollie obvtowning was weird and didn't come with an unvote <----why not?

- Des

[The Clubhouse]

I'll remove my vote if and only if you can give me some decent reasons for that read. I don't think you can.

~VP Quayle

Pedit: I didn't have any suspicion of you until recently.....

[Ansuz]

I dunno. Apparently EtL declines to read them because she can't.

I am waffling about them and would rather lynch other people at least.

I think there is a fair shot of them being scum, yes. At the least, you telling me that I should know better was silly cause Mollie hasn't done anything megatown yet. I'll try and parse her AtE wall later.

Mollie has done things that demonstrate she is not scum mollie to most people who know her. I figured you were one of those people; why do you think she is scummy?

[Generically Purple]

Yggdra's last few posts didn't sit well.
-AP

Vote: Rampage

Is there a reason we are reading the game so significantly different?

why aren't you voting tammy

Desperado leans town on Fish. I am going to wait for Tammy to get engaged, and there are a few things that feel off about them that I want to figure out.

Can he expand on this?

[The Clubhouse]

I didn't unvote mollie because A) the read was not mine in the first place and I wanted to consult with Stephen before moving his vote and B) I'm not actually convinced it was as obvtown as it looks on the surface

~VP Quayle

[Ansuz]

Bert's post about Daychat being used to coordinate pirate speak sounded like :scumposting: to me, but I also don't know Bert very well.

It's a crazy batshit theory but it also doesn't make him scum,

[Kid A]

Vote Count 1.3

bazinga (3) - Mhork and Mindy, Rancid Broderick Drake, Squirrel Girl
Ansuz (3) - Generically Purple, Athenas Fury, The Clubhouse
Paranoia Fueled Rampage (2) - Si and Am, Ansuz
Athenas Fury (2) - Yggdra Union, Paranoia Fueled Rampage
Mhork and Mindy (1) - 165 Trolls

Stuffed Crust (0)
Rancid Broderick Drake (0)
The Clubhouse (0)
165 Trolls (0)
Squirrel Girl (0)
Yggdra Union (0)
Generically Purple (0)
Si and Am (0)

Not Voting (2) - Stuffed Crust, bazinga

With 13 Alive it takes 7 to lynch
The current deadline is in (expired on 2014-01-28 18:00:00)

[Ansuz]

Yggdra's last few posts didn't sit well.
-AP

Vote: Rampage

Is there a reason we are reading the game so significantly different?

why aren't you voting tammy

Desperado leans town on Fish. I am going to wait for Tammy to get engaged, and there are a few things that feel off about them that I want to figure out.

I spoke too soon; he said the content was townish but the reads were not.
Can he expand on this?

[The Clubhouse]

Des, I don't have a post #78.

~VP Quayle

[Ansuz]

I'll remove my vote if and only if you can give me some decent reasons for that read. I don't think you can.

~VP Quayle

Pedit: I didn't have any suspicion of you until recently.....

This is more Scumrir posting!

[Paranoia Fueled Rampage]

PFR - Neither of us liked ETL's #293 nor AP's entrance later on that same page. They're also

coatriding mollie's read on us

while simultaneously reading mollie as scum--it's all just generally icky and needs to die.

Lmao?

Mollie can scumread you as much as she wants, I think you are scummy. There is no 'coatriding' involved. And you'll notice that we are not listing mollie as scumscumscum at all regardless.

You and Bazinga being scum together would make plenty of sense. I think you are scum regardless though.

[bazinga]

Even though a good portion of the ATE wasn't alignment indicative, I don't think I want to vote this anymore. Pending discussion, though.

Also, I have somewhat legitimate reasons for thinking Squirrel Girl isn't Sakura in addition to the whole "there is no reason to think that and they don't sound the same at all" deal.

~VP Quayle

Sq probably isn't Sakura.

Yes, it is Sakura. 100% positive. If you played in 256 Medical Mafia or if you read through it, you'd know by how she responded and posted and what all she said about why she's on an alt. We played as Bazinga in that game.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=32908

[Generically Purple]

ohdesphai

Pedit: Make sense

VOTE: Club

[The Clubhouse]

I'll remove my vote if and only if you can give me some decent reasons for that read. I don't think you can.

~VP Quayle

Pedit: I didn't have any suspicion of you until recently.....

This is more Scumrir posting!

I'm revoking your ability to read me and/or you're scum.

~VP Quayle

[Paranoia Fueled Rampage]

Clubhouse - #78 is a Scumrir post; townCeph might not realize Nacho was trolling and toss out a scumread, or he might catch the trolling and ignore it, but he wouldn't throw out a weak "Seriously, stahp trolling" out there.

And THIS from Mollie doesn't giver her any scumpoints: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p5605660

I thought that wa way sketchier than anything Cephrir has done.

[Ansuz]

PFR - Neither of us liked ETL's #293 nor AP's entrance later on that same page. They're also

coatriding mollie's read on us

while simultaneously reading mollie as scum--it's all just generally icky and needs to die.

Lmao?

Mollie can scumread you as much as she wants, I think you are scummy. There is no 'coatriding' involved. And you'll notice that we are not listing mollie as scumscumscum at all regardless.

You and Bazinga being scum together would make plenty of sense. I think you are scum regardless though.

Why do you think we're scummy?

[bazinga]

And this is wonderful that you have decided to try to meta me and then apply some past disagreement to an interaction with this slot based simply on the presumption you are reading the meta of a player who has actively said they are playing against their normal meta.

Vote: Squirrel Girl

How about this, everyone lynches me, targets up, and then I don't need to listen to Bazinga anymore. Win/win.

Oh, also, I have specifically requested the scum QT not be released simply because I alt slipped in it and, y'know, the point of this account is not to be associated with my main. You aren't really missing much, mostly it's just AA and I doing a bit of debate about who to NK, me expressing that I don't think town's plan is "all that" and I think that's about it. Oh, I also gloat a bit about some of the things I get to do as scum again when freed from association with my main, but I suppose all of that will be a temporary benefit moving forward. Maybe not, I am having fun with this alternate playstyle and think it is healthy for my main for me to be doing this.

[The Clubhouse]

And this is wonderful that you have decided to try to meta me and then apply some past disagreement to an interaction with this slot based simply on the presumption you are reading the meta of a player who has actively said they are playing against their normal meta.

Vote: Squirrel Girl

How about this, everyone lynches me, targets up, and then I don't need to listen to Bazinga anymore. Win/win.

Oh, also, I have specifically requested the scum QT not be released simply because I alt slipped in it and, y'know, the point of this account is not to be associated with my main. You aren't really missing much, mostly it's just AA and I doing a bit of debate about who to NK, me expressing that I don't think town's plan is "all that" and I think that's about it. Oh, I also gloat a bit about some of the things I get to do as scum again when freed from association with my main, but I suppose all of that will be a temporary benefit moving forward. Maybe not, I am having fun with this alternate playstyle and think it is healthy for my main for me to be doing this.

Noted.

[Ansuz]

I'll remove my vote if and only if you can give me some decent reasons for that read. I don't think you can.

~VP Quayle

Pedit: I didn't have any suspicion of you until recently.....

This is more Scumrir posting!

I'm revoking your ability to read me and/or you're scum.

~VP Quayle

Which one? You can't have it all, scumrir.

[The Clubhouse]

Well, what do you think? I'm voting you, after all.

Hey, remember the last time you tried to lynch me? I do.

~VP Quayle

[Ansuz]

Well, what do you think? I'm voting you, after all.

Hey, remember the last time you tried to lynch me? I do.

~VP Quayle

I don't.

[Generically Purple]

Ceph, do you think that list of reads is legit?

It seems strange, but why would I assume otherwise? Why else would you post it?

~VP Quayle

P.S. VOTE: ansuz

If that read list was legit, the fact that I had placed anyone above my slot should have been seen as suspicious to anyone, not just the fact that I had placed someone with only 5 posts ahead of me (and post-count shouldn't be indicative of someones alignment, anyway?)

and lets not forget the other weird issues I had placed in there, lets see if anyone can find it!

[bazinga]

Desp, if you see this it would help if you back me up on Squirrel pretty much admitting she was Sakura in Medical Mafia cos you made it to lylo there tia

[Ansuz]

Clubhouse - #78 is a Scumrir post; townCeph might not realize Nacho was trolling and toss out a scumread, or he might catch the trolling and ignore it, but he wouldn't throw out a weak "Seriously, stahp trolling" out there.

And THIS from Mollie doesn't giver her any scumpoints: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p5605660

I thought that wa way sketchier than anything Cephrir has done.

[The Clubhouse]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=31132