Open 541 - Too Many Heads Mafia (Game Over)

[Paranoia Fueled Rampage]

Why do you think we're scummy?

Nach doesn't feel like he is actually trying to figure anything out. I don't like his interactions with mollie and I didn't like him chainsaw defending her from me specifically when I said she might be scum.

Also Nacho knows damn well that us having different reads is not alignment indicative and him instavoting me with that as his reason is weak.

Finally, there is the lack of any notable stances except like 2 of them. Which I would expect more from Nacho even if they werent too great.

Also, Athena's instant buddying to Ansuz looked as they pointed out.

[Paranoia Fueled Rampage]

Desperado going out of his way to comment on everybody felt a little uninspired and like an effort to look involved.

[Paranoia Fueled Rampage]

Hey Nacho, how about we lynch Athena today?

[Paranoia Fueled Rampage]

Athenas Fury - Fish's first wall post was null, and Nacho thought Tammy's entrance post was "null and lame." <----Not a good sign.

Yet these people are in your null list and not "hm maybe scum?"

Start bussing now.

[Ansuz]

"Doesn't feel like Nacho is trying to figure anything out" - This is dumb reasoning. Tammy's Day 3 policy has to do with me being susceptible as hell to slow starts. I'm sorting people out in my own way (as you can see by Tammy interactions, Rancid interactions).

Different reads are alignment indicative, or it means something went wrong somewhere. I rarely feel confident about my ability to read you until I get in your face a little bit, which is something you should also know. I haven't given many stances, no. What does that have to do with anything? The stances I have given are pretty golden!

Desperado giving a reads list being bad is so you can take that reason and store it away to a place where it never has to see the light of day again.

[Ansuz]

Athenas Fury - Fish's first wall post was null, and Nacho thought Tammy's entrance post was "null and lame." <----Not a good sign.

Yet these people are in your null list and not "hm maybe scum?"

Start bussing now.

I feel they are more scum than Desperado does.
I feel nowhere near as confident on this read as I will when they start catching up.

[Paranoia Fueled Rampage]

Right, Im sure you figured a lot out about Natirasha. That guy is hilariously town and it took me like 2 posts to see that.

[Ansuz]

mollie

: The boys have taken this hydra through RVS. The only post I have made was my comment on the pirate talk (because I like being able to understand posts )

But... I'm sorry. A recent game taught me a lot about arrogance and the necessity to break down my reads. fwiw, we will not be voting you today.

I have yet to do more than skim. My eyes kind of glazed at all the pirate talk, but it's on my list for tonight to do a thorough read through.

ETL

p-edit: Guyett... you are not annoying and thickheaded; you are a pleasure to play with. I am annoying and thickheaded. That's why I'm in that list with Sakura.

I liked this post a bit although you are being too hard on yourself.

[Ansuz]

Right, Im sure you figured a lot out about Natirasha. That guy is hilariously town and it took me like 2 posts to see that.

Which two posts?

[The Clubhouse]

"Doesn't feel like Nacho is trying to figure anything out" - This is dumb reasoning. Tammy's Day 3 policy has to do with me being susceptible as hell to slow starts.

I've only seen you have a slow start once, for which I direct you once again to post 499.

~VP Quayle

[Generically Purple]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=31132

He didn't push you, I did!

I don't like being ignored, TVYM

[165 Trolls]

To whoever is claiming that squirrel is sakura, you're fucking stupid. Sakura is currently serving a new games ban, it included all alts and hydrae; and llamafluff isn't dumb.

[Paranoia Fueled Rampage]

Even though a good portion of the ATE wasn't alignment indicative, I don't think I want to vote this anymore. Pending discussion, though.

Also, I have somewhat legitimate reasons for thinking Squirrel Girl isn't Sakura in addition to the whole "there is no reason to think that and they don't sound the same at all" deal.

~VP Quayle

Sq probably isn't Sakura.

Yes, it is Sakura. 100% positive. If you played in 256 Medical Mafia or if you read through it, you'd know by how she responded and posted and what all she said about why she's on an alt. We played as Bazinga in that game.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=32908

I have other reasons for why I suspect its Sak
~G

[Paranoia Fueled Rampage]

Nacho I don't really care if you didn't like my 293. That pirate talk was annoying and it made it harder for me to understand what people were actually trying to say. I don't really get why you are trying to use that as a scumtell when it's not.

At any rate, we (AP, Guyett and I) need to calibrate our reads, because that's what needs to happen. It hasn't because I ignored RVS and left it to AP. Now I'm here.

@Ansuz
Can you please explain your mhork read more? Why does a push on an unviable wagon clear him? Is that the only reason for your townread on that slot?

Beyond the pirate shit, what makes you think RBD town?

About 165 Trolls, if you didn't understand their ISO, why didn't you try to clarify some of the posts with them?

ETL

p-edit x1000: stop talking a minute AP.....

[Ansuz]

"Doesn't feel like Nacho is trying to figure anything out" - This is dumb reasoning. Tammy's Day 3 policy has to do with me being susceptible as hell to slow starts.

I've only seen you have a slow start once, for which I direct you once again to post 499.

~VP Quayle

In that game, I had a slow start because I was scum and you were lynching obvious town.
In this game, I had a slow start because I was trolling like crazy.
Do you see a difference, Scumrir?

[Generically Purple]

I can attest to nacho having slow starts, though

[Paranoia Fueled Rampage]

Cabd, opinions on Ansuz and Bazinga, gogogo

[165 Trolls]

Sakura Hana has been banned from joining any new games for two weeks due to excessive replacing out of games and doing such to enact a trust tell.

Effective Date of start: January 3rd.
Effective date of end: January 17th
Today's Date: January 13th

[Paranoia Fueled Rampage]

To whoever is claiming that squirrel is sakura, you're fucking stupid. Sakura is currently serving a new games ban, it included all alts and hydrae; and llamafluff isn't dumb.

hmmm seems pretty conclusive

[Ansuz]

#295 was the post I didn't like, ETL.

[The Clubhouse]

"Doesn't feel like Nacho is trying to figure anything out" - This is dumb reasoning. Tammy's Day 3 policy has to do with me being susceptible as hell to slow starts.

I've only seen you have a slow start once, for which I direct you once again to post 499.

~VP Quayle

In that game, I had a slow start because I was scum and you were lynching obvious town.
In this game, I had a slow start because I was trolling like crazy.
Do you see a difference, Scumrir?

You are still having a slow start.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=31132

He didn't push you, I did!

I don't like being ignored, TVYM

Post 854/855. He did too.

~VP Quayle

[165 Trolls]

Cabd, opinions on Ansuz and Bazinga, gogogo

I don't like nacho's approach to you and cephrir.

I'm still trying to understand where the fuck that ATE wall came from and if it's legit, but I don't like bert's posts.

[Ansuz]

It's not necessarily town from Mhork to do the contradiction thing just because it isn't a viable wagon; it's just a gut read on how someone completely outside of their element would come into this gigantic clusterfuck.

[Paranoia Fueled Rampage]

Neither of us liked ETL's #293

I was responding to your reads but there were 2 pages of p-edits.

ETL

[Ansuz]

Not having a slow start anymore, Scumrir! Get new ammo for the push against me, you're gonna need something more solid than that.