Micro 285 - Time: The Distortion (Town Win)

[Bert]

Someone vote lucky, he's done no real scumhunting and his sole fos has been entirely reactive to someone mentioning the suspect him.

When does Lucky do real scumhunting?

Bert, why is Lucky town? if you've got some prior games that make Lucky's handful of posts unequivocally town, then kindly lay them out.

Will try tomorrow.

I think Bert really does need to get in here and show he won't be a random element if he's town.

What gives you the impression that I'm random?

[Adaptive Heap]

What gives you the impression that I'm random?

Entering the thread and voting Scumfuck and townreading Lucky without any reasoning for either, was pretty random.
Well actually I take that back - it was pretty much against the flow of the thread. Which was kind of random in a calculated way.

The random part I'll ascribe to wondering if we have a town sensible enough not to quickhammer that we could afford to push wagons to L-1 for at least a few days of this phase.

Are you that sensible man, Bert?

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I'll just leave this here, too:

(expired on 2014-01-21 20:00:00)

-t
(out for tonight)

[Bert]

I'm not sensible, so I advise you to keep away people from lynch -1 in case I lose my marbles.

[Lucky2u]

Someone vote lucky, he's done no real scumhunting and his sole fos has been entirely reactive to someone mentioning the suspect him.

When does Lucky do real scumhunting?

Ouch man... that hurts....

...I'm not saying it's not true but still!


I owe this game my attention, especially when I am a major point of discussion. Will return with content! ....

and if you believe that I have some swampland in Florida to sell you.

[Breakfast With Sandy]

I owe this game my attention, especially when I am a major point of discussion. Will return with content! ....and if you believe that I have some swampland in Florida to sell you.

Now

both

heads of this hydra want to vote you.

[DOMO]

Now both heads of this hydra want to vote you.

I'm surprised you didn't feel this way after bert ignored beli's post. There appears no willingess to reassess his scumread based on what's being posted. He's not arguing that the hydra dump is manipulated to look town, but he's left his vote there. Lucky has also left his vote there. Scumfuck is very probably town and the votes on them are awful.

My problem is that it all seems a little easy to say it's bert and lucky. I doubt that's the case. I suspect there's one between the two, while the other is between catboi and MC.

Pretty happy with scumfuck and AH though, if either of these two are scum we're in trouble.

I'm not sure who I prefer to lynch today, lucky or bert. I certainly don't think we should be closing this day out any time soon. We need more from bert and lucky before we make a decision imo.

@bert & lucky - please post a full reads list soon.

[Breakfast With Sandy]

both of those posts were me, not beli.

I was trying to imitate him. Interesting that it came off as an imitation of myself.

I associate you with poring isos, and Beli with the theatrical statements, so the one post was a bit conflicting.
(and also being out-of-nowhere humorous)

But okay, that seems the simpler explanation.

I didn't really understand this last night, but after a few cups of coffee today it makes perfect sense why that post looked conflicted.

I actually was poring over Beli isos to pick up some ideas about how to factor in some of his posting style. The post itself was an acknowledgement of your convo with Beli in the hydra request thread.

[Majiffy]

V/LA until Friday

This means no votecounts till then, so keep up on it on your own I guess.

[Bert]

Now both heads of this hydra want to vote you.

are you kidding?? how was that AtE scummy at all??

Maybe it was weird, but how was that scummy?????

[DOMO]

@bert & lucky - please post a full reads list soon.

[DOMO]

PAGETOP,

BITCHES.

Scumfuck (L-2): Lucky2u, Bert
Lucky2u(L-2): Adaptive Heap, catboi
Bert (L-3): DOMO

Not Voting: Scumfuck, Messiah Complex
7 alive, 4 to lynch.

We're still here, ftr.

[Breakfast With Sandy]

Now both heads of this hydra want to vote you.

are you kidding?? how was that AtE scummy at all??

Maybe it was weird, but how was that scummy?????

How was it AtE?

[Messiah Complex]

Now both heads of this hydra want to vote you.

are you kidding?? how was that AtE scummy at all??

Maybe it was weird, but how was that scummy?????

Why are you so staunchly defending Lucky?

[Adaptive Heap]

I actually didn't appreciate that we were starting the day at potentially day-before-MYLO until beli brought it up in the QT because it was making him feel pretty cautious about bandwagons. After the mention in our QT I referred to it in the thread. I'm not going to try and prove that because I think QT timestamps are a cheap and crappy form of evidence.

I'm not sure if this explains what you're concerned about.

Not to be too much of a nitpicker, can I ask why you didn't immediately realise that it was 7p as soon as Lucky voted you? Or.. Was that after the QT mention from Beli?

And isn't tomorrow potentially LYLO if we mislynch today?

I think I need a stiff drink and to talk to ole trust-tell-Beli if you can give him a kick in the pants for me. I have quantum reads on you guys which is a combined state of 55% scum and 80% town depending on observation.

Also I'm going to make it my purpose in life to prompt someone to use "twee" correctly in a sentence.

[Breakfast With Sandy]

are you kidding?? how was that AtE scummy at all??

It wasn't AtE, and it's scummy because town's under greater pressure than on a normal D1. A D1 mislynch, however statistically likely, puts us in lylo

tomorrow

. That's worrying me, and it should be worrying

anyone

who's town. Who's showing no worry? Lucky is.

Scum can derp their way to a win in a 7p, 2 scum game. Town can't.

[Breakfast With Sandy]

I actually didn't appreciate that we were starting the day at potentially day-before-MYLO until beli brought it up in the QT because it was making him feel pretty cautious about bandwagons. After the mention in our QT I referred to it in the thread. I'm not going to try and prove that because I think QT timestamps are a cheap and crappy form of evidence.

I'm not sure if this explains what you're concerned about.

Not to be too much of a nitpicker, can I ask why you didn't immediately realise that it was 7p as soon as Lucky voted you? Or.. Was that after the QT mention from Beli

I have never played a game this small outside of chat mafia. I guess my default "small game" setting is 3 days, 2 mislynches.

And isn't tomorrow potentially LYLO if we mislynch today?

Yes.

I think I need a stiff drink and to talk to ole trust-tell-Beli if you can give him a kick in the pants for me. I have quantum reads on you guys which is a combined state of 55% scum and 80% town depending on observation.

He's around. The previous Scumfuck post was Beli.

Also I'm going to make it my purpose in life to prompt someone to use "twee" correctly in a sentence.

Nothing so well epitomizes the meaning of the term "twee" as its use in conversation.

[Majiffy]

Scumfuck (L-2): Lucky2u, Bert
Lucky2u(L-2): Adaptive Heap, catboi
Bert (L-3): DOMO

Not Voting: Scumfuck, Messiah Complex
7 alive, 4 to lynch.

[Adaptive Heap]

Just a quickie - I've got a server meltdown to deal with at work over the next couple of days probably so will be slightly limited access, but still around. Mastin's lurking around too

-t

[Bert]

Why are you so staunchly defending Lucky?

I've sorta mislynched him every time he has been town in my games...in a caledwitch kinda way.

[catboi]

When does Lucky do real scumhunting?

I'm new, if you're making a meta defense you're going to need to provide examples.


Also, what do you think of the conversations Scumfuck posted?

[Breakfast With Sandy]

trust-tell-Beli

Melenkurion abatha,

Shiva, that is

cold

.

I'm loving the fact you can't tell which head is posting, though.

Spoiler: An easy guide

Me this game (with me as Galuf, and Ffery played by Mr. Z)






Hopefully that last bit isn't prophetic.

[DOMO]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: DOMO

Not a very good post

Ok this vote is actually quite significant, I didn't realise how much so at the time. Catboi took AH off L-1 here, meaning if AH is town scum couldn't snaphammer, which seems like a viable tactic in a micro. The other vote on AH other than mine was MC, so catboi I think can only be scum with AH or MC (or me I guess), otherwise he probably leaves his AH vote up for at least some time to see if his buddy hammers. Seeing as it looks like there's at least one between lucky and bert, I'm townreading catboi pretty hard based on this vote.

I'm down to lucky bert and MC, with MC easily the most town of the three.

AH scumfuck and catboi all looking good.

[Messiah Complex]

That's ignoring the fact that scum would be effectively committing suicide if they snap hammered on a lynch. This has already been visited, not sure why you devoted such a post to wifomy bullshit.

[DOMO]

That's ignoring the fact that scum would be effectively committing suicide if they snap hammered on a lynch. This has already been visited, not sure why you devoted such a post to wifomy bullshit.

Where has it been visited? I thought I'd read everything, clearly not if this subject has been touched upon further than "it's potentially lylo tomorrow".

Why wouldn't scum commit suicide by snaphammering? Do you think one for one is a better trade for town than scum in this format? Because I'm not so sure about that.

[Messiah Complex]

I don't care how far we got pushed in RVS.

If there was a five-post speedlynch then if town doesn't insta-lynch the hammerer day 2 then town in this game has some problems.

You've voted twice and both have been second votes on top of an existing vote, that's accurate, right?

There was a sense of humour in your RVS vote which I liked, a sense of 'dark impending things' in your vote on DOMO, and I don't quite grok (hi Beli) this most recent post which *still* seems to be promoting a lynch as soon as possible.

I'll wait out the day asking every question I feel is relevant to get reads, communicate my preferences for lynch and the reasons, and ask for feedback. I'll be around 24 hours before deadline. At least for a window of a few hours.

Why do you want a lynch to happen right now?
If you're town, do you have any inclination to reason on this?
I mean, running someone up is not a thing in this game.

My bolding to show you where it was already discussed that a quickhammer would die day 2. If I were scum I would not try for a 1 for 1 d1. I don't think that it would be the best idea to out yourself that early, especially when we would have some posts to go off of to try and find their associate. With it only being 7 people 1 townie dying makes it 5-2, nk makes it 4-2, derp hammer gets pled d2, 4-1, nk brings it to 3-1, and we have a 1 in 4 shot of hitting scum. Why would scum want to make those odds for themselves?