The Fall of Gondolin Mafia: Game Over (The Tale of Gondolin)

[sirdanilot]

Why are chamber and action dan different from the rest? Is this some kind of horrible soft claim type of thing?

[JacobSavage]

Why because I have mild town reads on those two.

[sirdanilot]

So you only have two mild town reads and you have no scum reads at all yet, not even mild ones. In addition, you are not doing anything to

get

those scum or town reads.

Seems legit.

[Elscouta]

Elscouta, do you have any completed scum games?

All my completed games on this side are on my wiki page. However, the only "completed scum game" you'll find won't give you much (I replaced in a more or less confscum spot and gave up after a couple pages)

[ActionDan]

Tbh that was the towniest post from JS so far.

[sirdanilot]

This is also something where site meta has gone down the drain. Saying 'yeah I don't find anyone scum' and doing nothing in the form of scumhunting used to be a lynchable offense.

[Elscouta]

I would be welcoming an analysis by any of the "Natirasha experts" about why his play in this game is different from its normal town play.

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: JacobSavage

this dies

lol no. We're lynching you or Reck.

[sirdanilot]

Is your definition of playing mafia not posting any content and voting people without reasoning?

[sirdanilot]

If reck or me are the two possible scum candidates for you then that is pretty awful by the way, as I don't read reck/tip scum. though of course we're only on page 13 and nobody is posting any content to speak of.

[chamber]

Elscouta, do you have any completed scum games?

All my completed games on this side are on my wiki page. However, the only "completed scum game" you'll find won't give you much (I replaced in a more or less confscum spot and gave up after a couple pages)

Are you ESL? Or were you like 10 in 2010? Your english in that game is awful ._.

[Elscouta]

Are you ESL? Or were you like 10 in 2010? Your english in that game is awful ._.

How the fuck is that relevant?

[sirdanilot]

Well nobody in this game is saying anything remotely useful or relevant, so it's better than most.

Seriously guys, do you expect that we win at this rate? Seriously?

This is why we can't have nice things (such as a town win)

[chamber]

Are you ESL? Or were you like 10 in 2010? Your english in that game is awful ._.

How the fuck is that relevant?

Answer first and then I'll tell you? I have nothing but respect for people that choose to learn english.

[Elscouta]

No i'm not a native speaker. So?

[chamber]

Well nobody in this game is saying anything remotely useful or relevant, so it's better than most.

Seriously guys, do you expect that we win at this rate? Seriously?

This is why we can't have nice things (such as a town win)

I'm fairly certain that if asked, everyone would agree that you are the largest source of noise in this game. What you define as useful and relevant simply doesn't match up with everyone else, stop bitching about it.

[chamber]

No i'm not a native speaker. So?

It means the broken and stilted english has an explanation other than nervousness from being scum.

[Aegor]

This is also something where site meta has gone down the drain. Saying 'yeah I don't find anyone scum' and doing nothing in the form of scumhunting used to be a lynchable offense.

Not scumhunting is scummy; noncomittal reads are not scummy. The alternative is potentially fabricating opinions on other players just to appear decisive. How does that benefit anyone? If someone says, "yeah I don't find anyone scum," the obvious response is, "well, who is the most scummy?"

Please stop ranting against site meta.

[shos]

chamber gets a townread.

sirdani and natirasha are still both scum guys. there are too few votes on nati.

[sirdanilot]

Well nobody in this game is saying anything remotely useful or relevant, so it's better than most.

Seriously guys, do you expect that we win at this rate? Seriously?

This is why we can't have nice things (such as a town win)

I'm fairly certain that if asked, everyone would agree that you are the largest source of noise in this game. What you define as useful and relevant simply doesn't match up with everyone else, stop bitching about it.

Says you as a 2005 player. Meta was not like this back then, was it?

Not scumhunting is scummy

; noncomittal reads are not scummy. The alternative is potentially fabricating opinions on other players just to appear decisive. How does that benefit anyone? If someone says, "yeah I don't find anyone scum," the obvious response is, "well, who is the most scummy?"

This is

exactly

my point. Not scumhunting is scummy. I see people in this game that a) have no scum reads b) are not doing ANYTHING ABOUT IT. That is not only scummy, it is downright detrimental to the town win condition. So either these people are scum meaning they should die, or they are town not playing to their wincon, meaning they should die, be modkilled or replaced out.

[sirdanilot]

chamber gets a townread.

sirdani and natirasha are still both scum guys. there are too few votes on nati.

This

is :goodposting:. See, you don't have to be

right

to be goodposting and be pro-active and be helping the town. Town is usually not right. But at the very least you should be doing something like this guy here.

Yeah even a bullshit case that I am now 'buddying' people is better than what some people in this thread are doing.

[shos]

you are buddying. lol.

[chamber]

Says you as a 2005 player. Meta was not like this back then, was it?

And thank god for that.

[Elscouta]

chamber's explanation in #316 feels a bit strange (is there really people that have trouble *writing* in English when scum? and you could have read before/after i claimed scum to see if there was a change of nervousness), but i will still put him in the slight town stack.

Congratulations, Shos, you are now member of the very select Town Club. In order to confirm your membership, please explain why Natirasha is scum.

[sirdanilot]

No i'm not a native speaker. So?

It means the broken and stilted english has an explanation other than nervousness from being scum.

This is indeed quite nonsensical as many players on the site do not speak english as their native language. Me included.

Also nervous scum usually just previews their posts and changes them endlessly, rather than that they let their nervousness slip through. Nervousness might be a tell with chat mafia or skype mafia or in real life, but not with forum mafia. Except with newb scum of course.