Mini 1537: ATTACK ON TITAN (Game Over!)

[BROseidon]

oh also, if bro and kthnx are really town mason like things, then the chance there is scum in kaze or muffin is really high.

btw I want your reasoning on this b/c I'm not seeing it.

[BROseidon]

I don't think kaze and muffin are mason-like things at all, whatever association they have seems to make them think the other is scum rather than town.

...how'd you even get here?

Are you even reading the game?

Ahah. Did she even read? She's the only one who seems to be FUCKING PAYING ATTENTION.

This is all wrong. I don't even.

She misinterprets what Tammy says in an inexplicable way, and she's the one paying attention?

wat.

[Kazekirimaru]

Mm. I need to take a step back. I'm going on tilt.

[Tammy]

oh also, if bro and kthnx are really town mason like things, then the chance there is scum in kaze or muffin is really high.

btw I want your reasoning on this b/c I'm not seeing it.

I'm not going to explain it today. It's just something I want marked in case I die.

Oh and that's right. kthnx the whole bert is probably scum because he said "what if tammy dies" isn't actually a thing. We did have a discussion about the commute thing early game. The vanilla town role, with the commute thing, is in the opening post. Bert claimed to be weak, which could mean he doesn't have the commute thing. And additionally, Bert expects me to die early and tends to throw paranoid fits at me when I don't die early enough, so that statement wasn't necessarily a scum post but just a how Bert expects the game to go with me post.

[BROseidon]

I'm gonna need more convincing than that to get off of Kagami...

[Tammy]

are you talking to me?

I'm not trying to be especially convincing about kaze/muffin. It's something I think is really likely, but not something I'd bet the game on. I just want it marked.

[BROseidon]

Ah kk.

[BROseidon]

So who do you want lynched then

[Brian Skies]

Also, ActionDan is town.

Indubitably.

By the way, where's your vote? I can understand not voting a scumread due to voting an even bigger scumread, but you're not voting at all. Not voting and yet you apparently have a scumread on me. Why are you taking shots from the sidelines?

Because I see you as an unlikely lynch. And I like taking shots from the sidelines. Reminds me of my high school football benchwarming days.

i don't know why people started thinking mastin is town

I don't know why other people do, but my read changed based on a reevaluation of Falcon's slot. Sure, Falcon's early meta analysis was out-of-place, but I'm not surprised he did it. He had already read that game because he meta-dived me in a micro, so he probably just remembered the reactions from Plum and Kaze to my miller claim there.

Although I didn't like his reactions to Myko and Dan, I can see them coming from a town POV. Falcon probably felt like he was being scum-read for bullshit reasons, thought he had caught scum, and town was ignoring his pleas. His posting gives me similar vibes to the micro I played with him where he was 'sure' I was scum (even though he was wrong) and Nacho was my partner (who was actually scum but I kept ignoring it because regardless of alignment, I knew lynching Nacho wasn't going to win me that game).

Anything Mastin has done/does is just going to be based on biased favoritism. I am aware I do this, so I'm ignoring him right now.

every time I tried to log in and post last night, the site was down.

Same for me.

3. Bert was worried about Tammy dying at night yet most the town have a 1 shot commute. Scum might not have known that, thus, it was out of place and semi scummy (and valid)

Meh. Close enough to what I thought you were seeing.

Bert is adept at emulating his town game. This is the worst possible thing you could be doing. Go read, please.

Not really. There is an extremely fine line between his town game and his scum game. I've seen some flashes of his town-game here, but I need to see more.

And additionally,

Bert expects me to die early and tends to throw paranoid fits at me when I don't die early enough

, so that statement wasn't necessarily a scum post but just a how Bert expects the game to go with me post.

I was expecting the italic parts to be true. Except he did miss something incredibly important when he made that statement, and I'm starting to think I'm one of the few people who actually noticed it (and I didn't actually noticed it until my re-read). But I know Bert sometimes misses critical information, so I'm not currently worried about him (if anything, I think it's more likely that he's town because he missed it).

Willing to lynch today:
Kazekirimaru

Prob-scum. I don't know what it is, but the things he does this game gives me a bad feeling.

Bert

I have him as null-town. I haven't seen enough from him to feel comfortable about it, but I have seen some small flashes of his town game. Either way, not interested in his lynch today.

Plum

Not sure. Prob-scum. Kind of just jumped at Pasch's early post and her read doesn't look malleable (doesn't actually look like she wants to figure Pasch out, so it's a tad concerning).

Kagami

Seems stuck on flavor, but I think some of her posting comes from a town mindset.

Pieguyn

I have a townlean on Pie. He's playing similarly to other games I've played with him where he seems to actively want to figure out this game. I haven't seen his scum-game yet, but I feel good enough about Pie that I feel comfortable about this read.

Paschendale

Not sure. Prob-scum. Muffin and Mastin both say he's town, but I'm not seeing what Pasch sees regarding role-fishing (except the parts about Plum).

mastin2

My read of Falcon says prob-town. Although, I agree with Kagami's sentiments regarding Mastin's most recent reads list. It doesn't actually say anything except him assigning town-reads and scum-reads.

Tammy

I don't know. I just have her listed as a null.

I will quickly and gladly bandwagon any of the above for a D1 lynch.

Kthxbye/Bro

Both of them were weak town-reads before their claims. My earlier read on Myko has deteriorated a bit since he replaced out, but any interest I would have had in lynching either of them has disappeared with their most recent claims.

Muffin

Not sure. Prob-town. I've only seen him as town and his play this game kind of falls in line with what I've seen from him.

Dan

Town. Mostly a gut-read and because a little birdie told me so.

Anyhow, the bolded parts are mine and I'd be okay with lynching people I haven't crossed out.

[Plum]

Forgive me for being so old-school that LAL is still a reason to consider someone scum and lynch him.

... get off my lawn!

[Kthxbye]

I do have to admit that it's odd to me as well that Pasche came in and posted after being at L-1 and being called out to claim and didn't even acknowledge it (only acknowledged being voted for). Scum trying to give as little info on partners as possible yet hoping his wagon dies without having to claim?.....possibly. Being at L-1 with this list of players seems like it would be a very precarious position to be in.

That said, I don't like both Kaze and Plum being on this wagon as I think either or both are likely scum. I could also see Kag as scum as well. Could be scum are going for the easy lynch.

Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I see scum are sticking to this wagon hoping it get's a hammer and trying to post as little as possible (content wise) till this is achieved.

I've narrowed down my list to Kaze, Plum, or Kag. Not wanting to see a Pasche lynch today.

VOTE: Kaze

[Plum]

Brian Skies - so I'm scum because I've been on Pasche all Day, called him a liar, and haven't looked away from his lynch or been swayed by his arguments . . . and Pasche is freaking scum too?

[Paschendale]

Yes Plum, one of the reasons that you're scum is that you haven't done any scumhunting at all, just defended your partner from my attacks.

Plum or Kagami must die today. And when whichever one we lynch flips scum, the other should follow.

[Brian Skies]

No, I think you're scummy because you seem more content with sitting on a Pasch lynch with some LAL policy instead of trying to figure him out in the event he's just town who's seeing something that may or may not actually be there.

The more times I read Pasch's posts, the more sense they start to make for me. So I can actually see town motivation coming from them. Yet, you don't seem interested in figuring him out at all. You just want to see him lynched.

VOTE: Plum

I'm okay with a Plum counter-wagon.

[Brian Skies]

@Pasch: I can't remember, but weren't you up for a claim? I think you're at L-2 and supposedly Kaze's vote is there "in spirit" (he just wants the hammer).

[Plum]

Yes Plum, one of the reasons that you're scum is that you haven't done any scumhunting at all, just defended your partner from my attacks.

Plum or Kagami must die today. And when whichever one we lynch flips scum, the other should follow.

Haha, no. You're going to claim. And then (barring unlikely developments from that), you will be lynched. I know you're desperately hoping that the vague contingent of people who think I might be a little scummy will save you if you keep repeating this stuff. It won't.

Brian - nope. We're not doing this. Not a chance in hell.

[Plum]

Hahaha Brian, if you want a Plum counterwagon why do you care is Pasche claims????

[Brian Skies]

Because he is also a scum-read. And why does it matter that I express it when other people have stated the same thing?

[Plum]

If you want a Plum counterwagon

now

, you want me run up and forced to claim. More claims than necessary are good for scum, not Town. Why would you want someone to claim who you don't want lynched?

There are half-decent answers to this. I'll give you a second strike, how about that?

[Brian Skies]

Why would you want someone to claim who you don't want lynched?

Because there has already been a pseudo-intent to hammer and others have already stated that they want his claim. Since he's here now, I thought I'd bring it up.

[Plum]

You didn't strike out. Better than the alternative.

[Brian Skies]

And that alternative would be?

[Plum]

You struck out? And are very significantly scummy for it? Better for you, anyway. No guarantees that it's better for the Town.

[Bert]

Brian's #1063 worries me.

[Plum]

You and me both, Bert.