The Fall of Gondolin Mafia: Game Over (The Tale of Gondolin)

[chamber]

Many scumtells are also done as town. Mafia would be a sad game otherwise That "scum can do it easier" is good enough for me in a day1 wagon (and much better than VT claiming / being useless, which is done indistinctively by town and scum). Also I think you downplay the tell a bit. "Reading someone has town, then giving a reason that could not be the reason for the read in a very short timeframe" is a bit more that "not paying attention to the game".

Memory errors like that are common in humans.

[Shadoweh]

Oh okay, then you're just sheeping Tierce and I'm dumb, thanks for pointing that out. ._.

[PeregrineV]

You failed flavor 101

*SNAP*

I did at that.

[PeregrineV]

However chamber reading Els's games and noticing a different in style of posting and then probing to see why feels waay more town motivated then scum mostly because, even if he did find something, scum-chamber trying to push a lynch through on HE TYPE DIFFERENT would be the most uphill and eye pulling kind of thing ever.

Is this assuming from chamber's posting, or did you follow up on the claimed work and look at Elscouta's games and notice a different posting style yourself?

[PeregrineV]

I got the impression it was made up to be annoying in the first place, but I agree that it was pretty terrible. That's better reasoning then I expected actually. And it's easy to forget about people when they aren't posting. :V

Why is it better than expected when he almost literally c/p'd Tierce's reasons?

Albert: Still waiting on that Dan explanation.

ActionDan or sirdanilot?

[Natirasha]

There's three votes on you, Natirasha. Why even talk about claiming?

Tongue->Cheek

In other news, Aegor's vote is actively bad and a good place to find scum.

[Desperado]

[quote="In post 454, PeregrineV"]ActionDan or sirdanilot?[/quote

Sirdanilot. He promised an explanation on Reck or Sirdan but not both. I want him to deliver.

[Plum]

Yet it is said that Maeglin loved his mother better, and if Eöl were abroad he would sit long beside her and listen to all that she could tell him of her kin and their deeds in Eldamar, and of the might and valour of the princes of the House of Fingolfin. All these things he laid to heart, but most of all that which he heard of Turgon, and that he had no heir; for Elenwë his wife perished in the crossing of the Helcaraxë, and his daughter Idril Celebrindal was his only child.

In the telling of these tales there was awakened in Aredhel a desire to see her own kin again, and she marvelled that she had grown weary of the light of Gondolin, and the fountains in the sun, and the green sward of Tumladen under the windy skies of spring; moreover she was often alone in the shadows when both her son and her husband were away. Of these tales also grew the first quarrels of Maeglin and Eöl. For by no means would his mother reveal to Maeglin where Turgon dwelt, nor by what means one might come thither, and he bided his time, trusting yet to wheedle the secret from her, or perhaps to read her unguarded mind; but ere that could be done he desired to look on the Noldor and speak with the sons of Fëanor, his kin, that dwelt not far away.

VOTE COUNT 1:11

Shadoweh

- 2 - Desperado, PeregrineV

Natirasha

- 4 - ActionDan, shos, Espeonage, Aegor

TheIrishPope

- 1 - Natirasha

Espeonage

- 4 - SpyreX, Shadoweh, sirdanilot, TheIrishPope

sirdanilot

- 1 - Albert B. Rampage

JacobSavage

- 2 - Tierce, Elscouta

MafiaSSK

- 2 - Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber

Not voting (2)

: JacobSavage, MafiaSSK

With 18 players alive it takes

10

votes to lynch.
Deadline is in

(expired on 2014-01-23 01:00:00)

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[Desperado]

Unvote
Vote: Natirasha

[Natirasha]

Hey Desp, what's up?

[Desperado]

You aren't doing shit.

And you keep reaching out to SSK even though he's been consistently suspicious of you all game and hasn't responded to them.

[Natirasha]

Do I ever do shit, Desperado?

And what does SSK have to do with me? All it does is prove he can't actually read me.

[Desperado]

Do I ever do shit, Desperado?

And what does SSK have to do with me? All it does is prove he can't actually read me.

1. Yes, you do.
2. You aren't even acknowledging him batting your hand away. It looks like scum avoiding something and hoping it just goes away. Why is SSK town?

[Aegor]

There's three votes on you, Natirasha. Why even talk about claiming?

Tongue->Cheek

In other news, Aegor's vote is actively bad and a good place to find scum.

Then why are you not voting me? Or building a case against me? Or pushing me? Or not being completely useless?

[Natirasha]

Okay, I'm tired of this. Like, seriously, what the fuck? You guys are actually batshit insane.

"Nat's doing nothing"
"Do something Nat"
"Why aren't you doing anything?"

What fucking measure do you guys actually measure 'doing something' by? Because, guess what, let's look at one such person who is currently complaining about me "doing nothing", shos. Go look at his ISO? You know what he's done? FUCKING NOTHING. He's berated people for using a public neighborhood thingy and sat there complaining about me. That's been the approximation of his interactions for the last like 15 pages. This is despite me being arguably BETTER and MORE USEFUL here than in our last game together, where I literally said "I'm just going to lurk until LyLo". Then did exactly that.

If you're expecting long-form responses from me, ha ha ha ha, well tough shit. If you're expecting content? Read. I'm giving it. Do I joke around? Sure, absolutely, but that's not all there is. I've pretty clearly outlined my stances. If you don't like my face? Either avoid playing with me, suck it up, or WotC me out of the game. Don't sit there and complain about me playing -as I always play-.

Follow it up with a thousand other people on the outskirts just quietly chiming in saying "hey Nat's not doing anything" should make you think something's off about this push on me.

[TheIrishPope]

"You're calling me out for something? Look at this other guy!"
Guys, typical scum play right here

[Natirasha]

2. You aren't even acknowledging him batting your hand away. It looks like scum avoiding something and hoping it just goes away. Why is SSK town?

I said SSK is town? I specifically didn't mention him in my reads list for a reason.

[Natirasha]

"You're calling me out for something? Look at this other guy!"
Guys, typical scum play right here

Like, am I the only one that sees this?

[Desperado]

2. You aren't even acknowledging him batting your hand away. It looks like scum avoiding something and hoping it just goes away. Why is SSK town?

I said SSK is town? I specifically didn't mention him in my reads list for a reason.

You just said that all it proves is that SSK can't read you worth shit. Which means he's town, right?

[Natirasha]

No? It just means he can't read me worth shit.

[chamber]

Now that red whine is over, I can say that natirasha's play here doesn't look at all like his play there to me.

[JacobSavage]

Do you speculate they are in a town-town, town-scum, or other type of neighborhood?

Honestly currently I'd go with town-town, CES is halfway between null and chamber for me personally.

"Reading someone has town, then giving a reason that could not be the reason for the read in a very short timeframe"

Why would it have to be a short time-frame?

Chamber what was different there and here?

[Shadoweh]

Now that red whine is over, I can say that natirasha's play here doesn't look at all like his play there to me.

What was Nat in red whine?
Today I learned Nat can bite. I would WotC you back in. When I say I want things to be done I just mean to at least try and present something that's meant to be read and understood by other people. Most people seem to be very bad at posting things like that. I thought your big post was p good though.

[Natirasha]

I was scum in Red Wine.

[Desperado]

No? It just means he can't read me worth shit.

Right, but he'd only be reading you if he's town.