The Fall of Gondolin Mafia: Game Over (The Tale of Gondolin)

[Natirasha]

No, scum still have to make reads.

[Natirasha]

Even if they're wrong.

[Desperado]

They have to make up reads, sure. But they don't have to go through the process of reading. That's exclusively town.

[SpyreX]

What kind of weird semantic debate is this?

If I had a bullet, Antionio would be pushing up daisies.

[Desperado]

What kind of weird semantic debate is this?

If I had a bullet, Antionio would be pushing up daisies.

I generally don't buy in to semantic bullshit (NY 164, "confirmation bias") but this one is pretty clear cut to me. If Nat thought SSK was scum I don't understand why he would phrase it the way he did.

[Natirasha]

I assume Antonio is me? Poor me. I sometimes worry SpyreX has a hate-on for me.

But, Despite, you know me, I naturally consider people I co aider friends to be town by default. I know for certain you've been around for one of my diatribes. Moreover, I could point you to an exact point that I did the same thing recently as town if you're really being pedantic.

Do I have reason to think SSK is town? No. Do I have reason to think he's scum? Also no.

[Natirasha]

Or should I just say guilty until proven innocent? Quite frankly, I'm going to figure out SSK's alignment by the end of tomorrow.

[SpyreX]

Antonio isn't you silly goose.

I actually liked a little emotion.

And Desp this is D1 of a large. You bet your ass scum are "reading" jic there's 3rd party or other scum or anything else. Shit, that was my scum MO for forever.

[sirdanilot]

The argument about scum not reading is extremely dumb, stupid and ignorant, not to mention that it makes no sense and also it's stupid.

Spyrex having an eternal nat-hate? Wouldn't surprise me. As I said, Spyrex is a conservative and orthodox player, once he decides someone is scum they are scum until all eternity and probably in other games he's playing with them too. It surprises me that he doesn't read me scum in this game, but my last game with spyrex was half a decade ago or so.

[sirdanilot]

If desp wasn't a bad lynch at this point I would vote desp for the stupid 'scum don't read' shit. Consider yoruself warned.

Good lynches at this point: Esp, JacobSavage
Good wagons at this point: Esp, SajocSavage, Nat

[Natirasha]

So, um, I'm not a good lynch but a good wagon?

[sirdanilot]

Well, depending on how your wagon develops and how you react, you may be a good lynch or not.

I must say I am less certain of nat-scum than before, but that might be because there's just SO MUCH SHITTINESS on your wagon, such as the scum reading thing.

[shos]

Sorry ill catch up fully soon

[chamber]

v/la till after the reckoning. Will still be around just less so.

[Espeonage]

Tomorrow, I have no gf and no distractions so this will get done then.

[Desperado]

Antonio isn't you silly goose.

I actually liked a little emotion.

And Desp this is D1 of a large. You bet your ass scum are "reading" jic there's 3rd party or other scum or anything else. Shit, that was my scum MO for forever.

If desp wasn't a bad lynch at this point I would vote desp for the stupid 'scum don't read' shit. Consider yoruself warned.

Good lynches at this point: Esp, JacobSavage
Good wagons at this point: Esp, SajocSavage, Nat

SSK hasn't posted in five days so the point is likely going to end up being moot anyway, but I don't think I'm wrong about this. "All it proves is that he can't actually read me" isn't something you say about someone whose alignment you are unsure of.

[Generic]

Pecan is so mafia that he finds guns in toilet systems in Italian restaurants.

Pecan is so mafia that he gets free doughnuts from local venders on his patch.

Pecan is so mafia he has a cousin fredo.

Pecan is so mafia his father had a heart attack amongst some grape vines.

Pecan is so mafia the story of his later life is poorly directed compared to the earlier stories.

Pecan is so mafia he made desperado an offer he couldn't refuse.

[chamber]

Pecan is so mafia that he finds guns in toilet systems in Italian restaurants.

Pecan is so mafia that he gets free doughnuts from local venders on his patch.

Pecan is so mafia he has a cousin fredo.

Pecan is so mafia his father had a heart attack amongst some grape vines.

Pecan is so mafia the story of his later life is poorly directed compared to the earlier stories.

Pecan is so mafia he made desperado an offer he couldn't refuse.

wrong thread >_>.

[Generic]

Didn't even know there was a thread for it.

[chamber]

You aren't in this game.

[Elscouta]

"Reading someone has town, then giving a reason that could not be the reason for the read in a very short timeframe"

Why would it have to be a short time-frame?

Forgetting why you claimed a townread 24 hours ago is a lot more damning that forgetting why you read someone as town one month ago.

My dislike for the Nat wagon is greater than ever. All the meta reasoning regarding him is bullshit, and chamber using a game in which Nat replaced 30 pages in AND was scum really really doesn't make it better.

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On a sidenote I will not have internet access until Monday.

[sirdanilot]

The Esp wagon is at this point much more shiny bright wonderfully pretty and good smelling than the Nat wagon

[PeregrineV]

Now that red whine is over, I can say that natirasha's play here doesn't look at all like his play there to me.

I'm going to translate this as you saying that in that game, Natirasha was scum, and his play here does not remind you of the scum he was in that game. You are saying he is town based on the single game play comparison.

[shos]

Do we know theres no jester? Nat looks like one.

Spyspy: agree witg chamber read. Why will I be the one to lose lylo?

[Espeonage]

Do we know theres no jester? Nat looks like one.

Spyspy: agree witg chamber read. Why will I be the one to lose lylo?

Isn't best policy always to lynch a jester claim or heavily suspected jester provided they don't end the game.