Mini 1537: ATTACK ON TITAN (Game Over!)

[Kagami]

Pie: your analysis on brian is interesting, but it's missing the part where AD does something indicating that he might be a PR prior to brian's assertion that he's town. I'm pretty sure that the scumteam thought he might be a pr on the basis of the Dayvig joke, and most importantly, the request that both wagon targets claim.

If anything, Brian's statement is a knowledge-slip, and such a blatant one that I think it's much more likely that brian's telling the truth about his role than that he's scum.

[Kagami]

Muffin, why do you think that one of the three main characters is a bad guy? I don't see how revealing this could benefit scum

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

Dat one yellow spongy dude that I hate with a passion.

That be the most racist comment I ever heard... ... ... Yer've got what it takes. Welcome aboard, ye scallywag!

[Kagami]

Actually, pie, your wagons summary is making me think {mastin, pasch, bert}

[Kagami]

Though that would imply all three neighbors are town... possible, but kind of unlikely, I guess

[BROseidon]

That claim is the most null claim that I've ever seen.

[Kagami]

So you think scum-brian would assert AD is town with so little grounding?

[Kagami]

Like, the rest is silly, but 1058 looks as though he's either town-brian with the claimed role or scum-brian planning to claim such a role. It seems to me like the former is more likely.

[BROseidon]

1058 would have been enough time for scum-Brian to decide that AD wasn't getting mislynched before NK'd. AD's style is hard for scum to play against, and it can completely wreck games if left alive for too long.

[BROseidon]

Also, I don't think anyone except F-16/mastin scumread AD.

[Paschendale]

Buddying a townie, especially one who looks particularly townie, is not an uncommon scum tactic. Manufacturing it after the fact makes it even fishier. However, Brian seems fairly town to me anyway, so I'm not swayed either way by the claim.

[Kagami]

Who did you neighborize, pasch?

[BROseidon]

Who did you neighborize, pasch?

[BROseidon]

woot got leet post.

Pasch claims, then if the claim checks out we lynch the fuck out of Bert.

[Tammy]

Brian - you have that role and it doesn't seem odd to you that two other people are running around claiming they're near confirmed to each other?

Bro/kthnx I don't think your roles confirm each other at all.

[Bert]

This is not how I would expect town you to react to getting heat.

Yeah, I've changed. My style is naturally scummy, so I adapted. Freaking out is just self-centered and delusional, so that's not going to happen

This screw up was my fault though. I had a pretty shockingly bad night the night I hammered. Be careful with the massclaim though.

I don't really think my reads are useful so you have my permission to lynch me at any time. I'll attempt to get something in if by some chance I'm still alive on Tuesday. <33333

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[Tammy]

I can partially understand that as I'm trying to change how I react to suspicion, but I would have expected some kind of appeal though. I've gotten it right with you in the past, and you can react without fraking out

[Paschendale]

I targeted Bert, actually. But it didn't go through.

I chose him because I think he's pretty town. I don't think his hammer was scummy, and the only arguments that portray it as such rely on a terrible logical fallacy, that it was a 50/50 chance between myself and Plum and that our respective claims (both of which were true) should have been the only criteria. Hammering someone you think is scum, regardless of a claim, is a town thing to do. Plum was suspicious as hell. Those advocating for killing Bert right now are employing faulty logic to do so, and are also suspicious as hell.

[Kthxbye]

I'm Petra Ral, an Informed Human (townie). I have a passive ability called His Solid Rock: ActionDan which tells me his flavor (Lance Corporal Levi) and his alignment (that he's with the human faction)

So you claim that you knew AD was human (scum would know from the start), and his name/flavor which was posted by the MOD after his death. On top of that, you crumbed this all D1 (scum planning at it's finest) and this makes you town? Why is this just too convenient for me to believe?

Scum so far:
Bert
Brian

Like, the rest is silly, but 1058 looks as though he's either town-brian with the claimed role or scum-brian planning to claim such a role. It seems to me like the former is more likely.

How does the former seem more likely? lol. Bad.

I targeted Bert, actually. But it didn't go through.

I chose him because I think he's pretty town. I don't think his hammer was scummy, and the only arguments that portray it as such rely on a terrible logical fallacy, that it was a 50/50 chance between myself and Plum and that our respective claims (both of which were true) should have been the only criteria. Hammering someone you think is scum, regardless of a claim, is a town thing to do. Plum was suspicious as hell. Those advocating for killing Bert right now are employing faulty logic to do so, and are also suspicious as hell.

Bert is scum and the logic isn't faulty. Between neighborizer and flavor cop claims, you don't lynch the flavor cop over the neighborizer claim...ever. The end. Only scum would want to get rid of the flavor cop. Neighborizers are more often a scum role than flavor cop (in my experience anyway). Both are conformable so hammering Plum after the 2 claims was done by scum. Kill it.

[Kagami]

"I targeted Bert, actually. But it didn't go through."

What? Is there some conditional aspect on your end, or was there a block?

[Paschendale]

Bert is scum and the logic isn't faulty. Between neighborizer and flavor cop claims, you don't lynch the flavor cop over the neighborizer claim...ever. The end. Only scum would want to get rid of the flavor cop. Neighborizers are more often a scum role than flavor cop (in my experience anyway). Both are conformable so hammering Plum after the 2 claims was done by scum. Kill it.

That's stupid. You lynch who you think is most likely to be scum. You lynch whichever claim you think is most likely to be a lie. Otherwise, why bother with claims? Then it's just a contest of who claims doc. You don't play by rote, you evaluate the facts.

"I targeted Bert, actually. But it didn't go through."

What? Is there some conditional aspect on your end, or was there a block?

I'm guessing block, though I wasn't informed of anything. I also wasn't going to ask about it, since that would just give more PR information to scum. Which is, I presume, what you want to happen.

[Kagami]

VOTE: bert

Miller is actually a pretty good fake-claim for a mafia ascetic.

[Kagami]

No one would block a neighborizer, and no one would rolestop bert.

[Kagami]

Well, I guess rolestopping bert is plausible if the rolestopping blocked nightkills, but that's a very uncommon role. Ascetic seems near certain to me, especially coupled with his general scumminess this game.

Only disappointing part of this theory is that it makes pasch town.

[Kazekirimaru]

I'm

Petra Ral

, an

Informed Human

(townie). I have a passive ability called

His Solid Rock: ActionDan

which tells me his flavor (Lance Corporal Levi) and his alignment (that he's with the human faction). It's also the reason why I had such a strong townread on him yesterday (because he was already confirmed to me). I was told that he was not aware of my alignment (so although the reciprocated townread felt good, I'm pretty sure that was just his read on me).

I'm willing to believe this. Where it's generally my first instinct to call shenanigans on a claim that has something to do with one already dead, this makes perfect sense flavour-wise(and before anyone starts yelling at me, pitoli said flavour isn't alignment indicative, but it is role-indicative). Petra and Levi had a thing in the series, and Levi picked her for the Survey Corps personally. I'm not saying this is all-game-pass worthy, as this could be just a really, really good fakeclaim, but considering it makes sense and is paired with a decent amount of crumbing throughout Day 1, I'm willing to leave this slot alone.