Why are you assuming Pasch is, you know, telling the truth?In post 1348, Kagami wrote:Well, I guess rolestopping bert is plausible if the rolestopping blocked nightkills, but that's a very uncommon role. Ascetic seems near certain to me, especially coupled with his general scumminess this game.
Only disappointing part of this theory is that it makes pasch town.
I don't think he would have fake-claimed and then come up with this particular way of getting out of it, especially when he had alternatives available to him. He safely could have claimed to neighbor AD or claimed to neighbor a scumbuddy, who could then claim to have used his maneuver gear and thus didn't get neighborized. By claiming to neighborize bert, he would have to expect that we'd come up with something like "bert is an ascetic" rather than "pasch is lying," which is a risky business.In post 1353, Kazekirimaru wrote:It's in inoffensive claim. Doesn't require having results or targeting people every night. And it's more believable that the scum standby "1-shot BP". I'm not at all surprised that he claimed a PR considering the pressure on him yesterday. Claiming VT would have been a death sentence.
That said, I agree it's odd he'd claim it failed since by this line of reasoning Bert and Pasch are scum together. But I don't see why anyone would roleblock a neighbourizer(not to mention we have a three-person neighbourhood, two people claiming to be semi-confirmed to each other, and now a rather believable one-sided best friend roleclaim as it is.)
So, something has to give.
Fine. Iso me and search for Dan's name. Not only does he appear the most in my iso, but I almost always mention him as town. Even higher than Myko, whose reasoning against Falcon I considered stronger than Dan's.In post 1333, BROseidon wrote:1058 would have been enough time for scum-Brian to decide that AD wasn't getting mislynched before NK'd.
Well, obviously. It's not like they ever claimed masons. They're just like "ermahgahd, you're xxxx? but I didn't know your alignment or anything!" :shrugs:In post 1339, Tammy wrote:Brian - you have that role and it doesn't seem odd to you that two other people are running around claiming they're near confirmed to each other?
You basically just said you did. "Not only does he appear the most in my iso...". Not "I bet", not "I guarantee", even. You flat out stated it as fact. Now, for what reason would you ISO yourself?In post 1360, Brian Skies wrote:I'm not. Bro thinks the timing of my crumbs are suspicious. So I told him to iso me and look for Dan's name. It's not like I was being subtle about Dan being town.
That's roughly where I'm at. I still want that question mark to be Pasch, though.In post 1361, Rancid Broderick Drake wrote:Bert/Mastin/?
Or the commuter supersedes the roleblock. Either way, all of this PR speculation just helps scum. If you don't have a case and are just jumping on whoever hammered, say that.In post 1366, Kagami wrote:There are only three possible events here:
A) pasch is lying about his role
B) bert is lying about his role
C) Some third party blocked pasch or stopped bert.
C is extremely unlikely, because who would block a neighborizer? There were other, better targets to block. On top of that, it implies scum has a roleblocker, which would basically make the 1-shot commuter ability, which is essentially the central mechanic of this setup, trivially neutralized.
To check my ego. Anyhow, I know what I've done this game. I know what my role is. I know that I've stated several times that Dan was town (tried to make it seem organic at first, but it's kind of hard to breadcrumb and not seem blatantly scummy about it when the guy rarely posts and decides to be overly coy with his push against Falcon). The breadcrumbs at the end of Day 1 were to leave, without a doubt in your guys' minds, that Dan WAS town should I have been NK'ed. Iso'ing is just a means to make sure it's there. If you guys don't believe me, then you guys don't believe me. But I don't want to hear "oh the timing of it is bullshit" because I've been trying to make it pretty blatant all game.In post 1367, Kazekirimaru wrote:You basically just said you did. "Not only does he appear the most in my iso...". Not "I bet", not "I guarantee", even. You flat out stated it as fact. Now, for what reason would you ISO yourself?
