The Fall of Gondolin Mafia: Game Over (The Tale of Gondolin)

[MafiaSSK]

Pedit: Wow, k. And yeah, more what I was getting at. And your logic is, you didn't use your posts effectively so pretend you have something you don't or I'm voting you. Cool man.

How do you not have something yet? Can you explain that?

[Espeonage]

Because this game has completely fallen by the wayside in my mind. I've posted to try and maintain a presence, but I haven't been actively thinking about this game. I'm not joining any new games until I'm out of another (I died in one so I've dropped) which is why I'm ready to put in some effort here now.

[Natirasha]

SSK join the wagon of JUSTICE.

[MafiaSSK]

SSK join the wagon of JUSTICE.

But now he's starting to look like a bored townie, Nat. Illuminate me, convince me.

[Natirasha]

SSK join the wagon of JUSTICE.

But now he's starting to look like a bored townie, Nat. Illuminate me, convince me.

I'd defer to chamber here to ask how he feels about this vs Espeon in Red Wine, where he was equally super shady day one to the point that his entire scumteam was bussing him. I get similar vibes.

I also think his play today has been way on eggshells and...plotted? Planned?

[MafiaSSK]

SSK join the wagon of JUSTICE.

But now he's starting to look like a bored townie, Nat. Illuminate me, convince me.

I'd defer to chamber here to ask how he feels about this vs Espeon in Red Wine, where he was equally super shady day one to the point that his entire scumteam was bussing him. I get similar vibes.

I also think his play today has been way on eggshells and...plotted? Planned?

Just as you have always planned to get bored in mafia games?

[Shadoweh]

There's a reason people use the words 'townie bloodlust' and not 'scummy bloodlust'. Your only current scumread sounds like you're telling me why sirdanilot is town. Hunters are looking for scummy beasts in the shadows, they're not the scum themselves. It's also way too 2 days from deadline to convince people to wagon sirdanilot. I think. Apparently I'm underestimating attention spans here. If I were to look at the vibes, I'd say ActionDan and Aegor, aside from Jacob, Nat and SSK who you have townie feels for, might be lynchable. If you don't want to get lynched you need to pick one and make a convincing case. At the very least we might actually be able to see you trying.

Cut: I can't read minds, I just have good intuition. I have a belief that people should be unvoted for the things they've done, not for what other people have said about them, and there is no done being having. Considering sirdanilot is the only scum read he's refusing to let go of and he doesn't have any new ones, I think it's a dimension beyond tunneling into the Pangalactic Didn't Read The Game Gargleblaster.

Honestly I'm not sure. I'm starting to get tired of trying to squeeze water out of a stone. Who else would you suggest lynching at this point?

[Natirasha]

Just as you have always planned to get bored in mafia games?

What? I'm saying I don't think Espeon is actually bored.

[Espeonage]

Am I voting him? No.

I don't know who to lynch at this point.

And you are more than entitled to think that. I ave a read. I haven't seen anything to deter the read, the read stands. I'm not shoving the read down people's throats, nor am I even pushing for his lynch atm, completely because it is unlikely to get off the ground, especially if I'm pushing it from my position. I've been more than happy to get behind compromise lynches that I felt no deterrence to.

And I'm certainly not going to make up a case that I don't believe in. That's a terrible thing to even suggest tbh.

[MafiaSSK]

Cut: I can't read minds, I just have good intuition. I have a belief that people should be unvoted for the things they've done, not for what other people have said about them, and there is no done being having. Considering sirdanilot is the only scum read he's refusing to let go of and he doesn't have any new ones, I think it's a dimension beyond tunneling into the Pangalactic Didn't Read The Game Gargleblaster.

Honestly I'm not sure. I'm starting to get tired of trying to squeeze water out of a stone. Who else would you suggest lynching at this point?

CES. What do you think of my read on him?

[Shadoweh]

CES always reads as scum to me, I'm pretty sure he was born on another planet. chamber and Tierce seem to think he's town though. I trust their judgement about it.

[MafiaSSK]

CES always reads as scum to me, I'm pretty sure he was born on another planet. chamber and Tierce seem to think he's town though. I trust their judgement about it.

Because?

[shos]

I MSSKs catchup, agree to that observation. Nice catxh too. The wagon on him is stupid. I also like shadow a bit.

Vote actiondan, guys.

[TheIrishPope]

SSK's response was horrible.
VOTE: MafiaSSK

[shos]

How is it horrible? Response to WHAT? he was only voted for lurking.

[Natirasha]

SSK's response was horrible.
VOTE: MafiaSSK

If SSK flips scum, this is a bus vote.

[MafiaSSK]

SSK's response was horrible.
VOTE: MafiaSSK

TIP, have we ever played together?
Also, why was my response horrible?

[shos]

Ebwop: I like MSSK....etc

[MafiaSSK]

SSK's response was horrible.
VOTE: MafiaSSK

If SSK flips scum, this is a bus vote.

...Nat. Why am I being lynched? Why do you think I'm scum?

[shos]

Also nat might be town after all.

[Natirasha]

...Nat. Why am I being lynched? Why do you think I'm scum?

I don't think you're scum and you're not getting lynched.

But in the event you are scum and you do get lynched, that was a really blatant bus.

[Shadoweh]

They're better at wizardry. Although CES has posted alot more in this game then I'm used to and I don't remember getting any bad feelings about it, so saying he looks like scum this game is wrong, he just doesn't look bad to me. He's also the only person who posted actual reasoning that people should be voting you, instead of hopping on the rapidly growing train for Because Reasons.

Speaking of Because Reasons, what exactly was bad about his response? It had less swears in it, but it looked like something I'd type after a giant wagon of dumb. And trust me, I have had lots of experience with being randomly wagoned for no reason.

[MafiaSSK]

They're better at wizardry. Although CES has posted alot more in this game then I'm used to and I don't remember getting any bad feelings about it, so saying he looks like scum this game is wrong, he just doesn't look bad to me. He's also the only person who posted actual reasoning that people should be voting you, instead of hopping on the rapidly growing train for Because Reasons.

Except he didn't have reasoning. Or at least didn't have reasoning that was explicitly explained in the post of the vote or in any serious way beforehand. And might I remind you that he was trying to start Because Reasons by himself by trying to recruit Tierce onto the wagon.
And he probably tried to recruit Tierce for the same reason you trust Tierce's opinion, and excuse me for stating a tautology, but you trust Tierce's opinion because Tierce's opinion is trustable and if scum-CES could get a vote like that on his wagon then he could have an even better and quicker Because Reasons wagon.

[Shadoweh]

Yeah guys let's go for a lurker lynch on someone who wasn't even half bad before they flaked.

Except that his play was superscummy? He unvoted Reck based on obvious nonsense when that wagon took off and didn't revote anyone despite saying multiple people were scummy.

Firstly, the reck wagon was horribly terribad. Some of the biggest scumbags were on it (Esp, you, aegor doesn't look too good either though I haven't read him yet, that'll come later) and it was half RVS anyway.

Which wasn't his stated reasoning. The Reckwagon was a good thing because it created pressure and informative situations without significant chance of it turning into a lynch (because Reck); but regardless of what you think of the wagon, "Reck is fine, btw." combined with an unvote is just a scummy reaction.
I doubt he flaked either; he lurks on purpose.

I was referring to when his reminder to people that you exist pushed you into being a real wagon. If you meant he didn't post reasoning when he voted you, half the thread is guilty of that on everyone.

Uhm, hmm. I don't know if he'd do that. It does look weird in retrospect. God damnit why are you making me doubt myself. CES, why did you target Tierce in specific and why did you give up so easily on convincing her to vote with you?

[Espeonage]

I think SSK looks good here, actually.

btw @Nat: If you're going to bring up Red Wine (Where I had no townie heat on me for a long while but we went for it because it was working, not because they felt they had to.) I'd present Marketplace in response, I feel very similar here to what I did there towards the end. You were in the game too.

TIP's vote looks forced, could be a bus as people have said, or could be a desperate shove off of a bad judgement call.