Micro 285 - Time: The Distortion (Town Win)

[DOMO]

Nice scum claim. Cop is macho cop, gets no protection, you'd know that if you were actually cop.

[Bert]

A macho cop is a normal cop

[DOMO]

Did you not get this role pm?

Town Macho Cop

Welcome, [Player Name], you are a Town Macho Cop.

Abilities:

Each night phase, you may investigate one player in the game by PM'ing the mod. You will get results back in the form of Town, Mafia or No Result.
You know you are guaranteed to be sane.
You cannot be protected from nightkills.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

[Lucky2u]

VOTE: DOMO

Well this changes things. Your trying to get us to lynch the cop claim with no counter? This does not make sense.

[DOMO]

Well this changes things. Your trying to get us to lynch the cop claim with no counter? This does not make sense.

Do you actually believe that claim? jfc. If he's cop, he's dead tonight anyway. There's very little scum motivation in trying to get an outed macho cop lynched, especially one who claims to be a normal cop.

[Bert]

I didn't realize or notice that macho was anything but a decorative adjective

[Bert]

Remember that I am a late replacement

[DOMO]

Remember that I am a late replacement

I'm still not buying it, but this is not entirely worthless.

unvote

At least until we have some more discussion.

Assuming this is indeed a fakeclaim, real cop should not counterclaim in any hurry.

[Lucky2u]

Well this changes things. Your trying to get us to lynch the cop claim with no counter? This does not make sense.

Do you actually believe that claim? jfc. If he's cop,

he's dead tonight anyway

. There's very little scum motivation in trying to get an outed macho cop lynched, especially one who claims to be a normal cop.

So why are you getting us to do the scum's dirty work? If he IS the cop, he will either die or scum will leave him alive for WiFOM. Either way, YES I BELIEVE THE UNCOUNTERED CLAIM! So that means if you are town, like me, you have eliminated a choice to lynch and now have a 2 out of 5 chance to lynch the RIGHT target.

[DOMO]

So why are you getting us to do the scum's dirty work?

What makes you think we're doing the scum's dirty work?

I do not think this claim is worth shit. It's blatantly an attempt to draw out the real cop before he gets lynched.

[Lucky2u]

So why are you getting us to do the scum's dirty work?

What makes you think we're doing the scum's dirty work?

I do not think this claim is worth shit. It's blatantly an attempt to draw out the real cop before he gets lynched.

Ok, but that assumes Bert saw his lynch as a certainty. With two other likely lynch targets, I don't buy that hey would run this gambit as scum.

[DOMO]

Ok, but that assumes Bert saw his lynch as a certainty. With two other likely lynch targets, I don't buy that hey would run this gambit as scum.

Scumfuck has already said that their vote is likely going on to bert, and with just a few days left, his lynch seemed inevitable. He's done nothing pro-town, has basically trolled his way to a cop claim days from lynch. If he's scum, then he claims cop, that much I'm sure of. Yes, if he's cop he also claims cop, but I would like to think he would be aware of the dynamics of his own role. If he's cop he hasn't even read his role pm. I just don't see that happening very often at all. Worst case scenario is, like you say, we do the scum's dirty work by killing him. That's the worst case scenario and one I find incredibly unlikely given bert's posts up to now.

[Breakfast With Sandy]

I didn't realize or notice that macho was anything but a decorative adjective

You've never played in a game with a macho role?

[Bert]

No, I haven't ever played with one in the past

[Breakfast With Sandy]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... o#p5551112

[Messiah Complex]

i want to murder bert so fucking bad right now

- des

[Bert]

That was a marathon and I don't think it was stated what Rem was in detail, I assumed fancy name for cop

I don't think I've seen one in a past regular game ever

[Breakfast With Sandy]

No, there is a doctor and

two mafia goons

Are you joking

This, though. A town player might not catch the significance of it being a hohum variant.

[DOMO]

This, though. A town player might not catch the significance of it being a hohum variant.

This slipped past me, I just saw the doctor comment and saw that as a scumslip.

Do you think macho cop ever thinks he's normal cop?

[Breakfast With Sandy]

The cop can't be protected. You die today or tonight.

[Breakfast With Sandy]

the crap? I refreshed before posting :<

[Breakfast With Sandy]

This, though. A town player might not catch the significance of it being a hohum variant.

This slipped past me, I just saw the doctor comment and saw that as a scumslip.

Do you think macho cop ever thinks he's normal cop?

The role pm itself explains what macho means - can't be protected - so the modifier is not key to understanding how the role works.

I played in a chat-style quick vengeful game with Bert on another site and he didn't read his role pm well enough to realize that scum lost if the godfather was lynched. He replaced in and he voted his teammate (godfather) when he joined the game and put him at L-1.

This isn't a chat-speed game, though.

At first I thought you were soft-counterclaiming him when you said you wouldn't unvote. But, that's not the case.

[DOMO]

I played in a chat-style quick vengeful game with Bert on another site and he didn't read his role pm well enough to realize that scum lost if the godfather was lynched. He replaced in and he voted his teammate (godfather) when he joined the game and put him at L-1.

Ok, so bert can not read his role pm.

The question now is, why would the cop sit back and troll his way through d1 when it's bringing him heat? Would a cop not recognise that this is a bad strategy and pull his finger out? Bert can do more than what he's doing here, especially if he's important to the town. I see nothing town motivated from bert, nothing at all. I can't see this claim being legit. It's pretty much forced if he's scum, and it doesn't make sense if he's cop because all he's been doing is attracting suspicion.

I want to kill bert without the need for a cc. Let scum decide if I was softclaiming or not.

[Majiffy]

Did you not get this role pm?

Town Macho Cop

Welcome, [Player Name], you are a Town Macho Cop.

Abilities:

Each night phase, you may investigate one player in the game by PM'ing the mod. You will get results back in the form of Town, Mafia or No Result.
You know you are guaranteed to be sane.
You cannot be protected from nightkills.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Ahahaha you think I put that many words into my role PMs, that's cute.

[Breakfast With Sandy]

That pretty much tears it.

I'm ready to vote Bert.