Newbie 1471: Italian Ice (Game Over!)

[GuyInFreezer]

VC 1.2

Nachomamma8 (L-4):

AbboTT

AbboTT (L-4):

Nachomamma8

ika (L-4):

emeraldemon

emeraldemon (L-3):

bjc | ika

bjc (L-4):

RayFrost

Not Voting:

Crown, Rob W, PurpleBandit3000

The deadline is in Feburary 3, 5:00 PM EST.
Deadline counter: (expired on 2014-02-03 17:00:00)

[AbboTT]

Interesting OMGUS from nacho.

Ah yes. Neutral face. Very helpful content, there.

[ika]

What a fantastic start. Lots of drama right out of the gate.

so you say a second vote is never rvs?

I suggest a new tactic to determine if something is RVS or a legitimate vote. Just. Ask. The. Voter.

Are you not paying attention? i did, and he responded. you seemed to have nitpicked here

Why did you move your vote to abbott?

why do you care is the bigger question here?

@ika:

1

It's obvious why anybody would care. So obvious that I'm wondering if your question here is supposed to be rhetorical.

2

Are you implying that emeraldmon shouldn't care who you are voting for?

3

Or were you just fishing for a post like this?

4

Beh. I dislike "sneaky" townies. It makes it harder to sort everybody out. The town's biggest weapon is its numbers. Trying to be a sneaky McSneak pants doesn't help communication.

1] no its not obvious why ONE person would care. Right now in early stage i find that votes are nothing more then conversation pieces atm. If his early jump at a second vote on SOMEONE ELSE is what screams out at me. and the fact that it was only a sceond vote. as he and i already pointed out, he wanted to cause discussion and possibly even gage reactions. His reaction was to question it with "???" wanting reason, he gave his reason and when i questioned it, he got defensive about it

2]yes and no, as town you should have a sense of caring who others vote for when you are leading a lynch or want a lynch to go off. here his reaction to a second vote to me screamed "OMG WHAT ARE YOU DOING VOTING MY SCUM BUDDY"

the vote did have no justification but caused a reaction, a reaction that i was able then to use to have some dicscussion and some interaction. Sometimes random posts/votes are just the thing needed to

A] start up new converstations/dicussions
B] Catch scums

3] This question is rather odd but i would say good to an extent, you are trying to understand why i am asking it, you did state sevral ideas on what i was doing and my posts are made to see how they react, i was merly questioning him asking for his reason for reacting to the vote like that. My post does have a sense of "its an obvious pointless post" but it is something to cause discussion. if towns greatest tool is the power of numbers and ability to communicate, why would he go through such length to try and discredit me and/or not continues discussion like he did with his post

4] As you play more games, you will understand that towns must sometimes play the what you call "sneaky town" card. it may be annoying and may shut out communication at times, however here as you can see right now i am being perfectly open about it and many of my post have been full of information. if anything, emeraldemon has been doing that as well as you

***

Interesting OMGUS from nacho. Anybody wanna help me get this train rolling?

that, just, no.

[AbboTT]

words

@ika: Okay. I didn't get much of anything out of this exchange. I do have one followup question for you; if you are content with placing "random" votes at this point in the game, why aren't you willing to vote for nacho?

Wagons are the fast track out of RVS.

[Rob W]

Vote: ika

[bjc]

Vote: ika

Why?

[bjc]

Would like to have some more content...

[ika]

words

@ika: Okay. I didn't get much of anything out of this exchange. I do have one followup question for you; if you are content with placing "random" votes at this point in the game, why aren't you willing to vote for nacho?

Wagons are the fast track out of RVS.

So explain to me why you are in such a hurry to exit rvs, how do you know we have not already exited rvs? Your vote on nacho was pure rvs and me wagoning him would do almost nothing. I may be jumping it here but as of now im content with my vote if you would like me to change it to nacho, show me reasoning. I am inclined to change my vote to someone else but I still want to see more post by the players.

Would like to have some more content...

Then generate something. Your last post on asking why is something, however you have it directed towards that person. Its not generated towards the group as a whole.

I will give us some questions to generate contents if it will help

Favorite role to play as?
Playstyle preference?
where do you originate from if you played before?
do you prefer town, scum, or neutral?
Who is your strongest town and scum read?
who are your null reads?
why are you reading all those players like that?

those question should generate contents

[bjc]

words

@ika: Okay. I didn't get much of anything out of this exchange. I do have one followup question for you; if you are content with placing "random" votes at this point in the game, why aren't you willing to vote for nacho?

Wagons are the fast track out of RVS.

So explain to me why you are in such a hurry to exit rvs, how do you know we have not already exited rvs? Your vote on nacho was pure rvs and me wagoning him would do almost nothing. I may be jumping it here but as of now im content with my vote if you would like me to change it to nacho, show me reasoning. I am inclined to change my vote to someone else but I still want to see more post by the players.

Would like to have some more content...

Then generate something. Your last post on asking why is something, however you have it directed towards that person. Its not generated towards the group as a whole.

I will give us some questions to generate contents if it will help

Favorite role to play as?
Playstyle preference?
where do you originate from if you played before?
do you prefer town, scum, or neutral?
Who is your strongest town and scum read?
who are your null reads?
why are you reading all those players like that?

those question should generate contents

I will take a shot at this after my next, and final, class.

[emeraldemon]

Check out this interaction:

#29 I ask bjc about his vote
#30 ika: "Why do you care?"
#31 ika: "nacho and bjc are probable towns"
#37 I vote ika
#38 bjc: "WTF is this? vote emeraldemon"
#42 ika: (about bjc) "he also already justified his reasoning. he sparked discussion. we are now following up on it."

Are these guys best friends or what?

Also
#41 "Who are you addressing here?" How is it unclear? The post came directly after yours and is talking about what you are talking about. It is directed to you.
#42 ika agrees with bjc some more "this i would like to hear as well. it is surprisingly vauge" even though it wasn't vague at all.
#52 ika: "Right now in early stage i find that votes are nothing more then conversation pieces" Followed by some utterly generic questions.

Sorry, I'm trying not to tunnel here, but you two look like scum buddies to me.

@nacho
What makes you think these guys are town?

[bjc]

Well IMO you're making a good day one candidate, but I am still a little weary of ika.

[bjc]

Correction: You're making for a good day one lynch candidate if it wasn't clear.

[ika]

Check out this interaction:

#29 I ask bjc about his vote
#30 ika: "Why do you care?"
#31 ika: "nacho and bjc are probable towns"
#37 I vote ika
#38 bjc: "WTF is this? vote emeraldemon"
#42 ika: (about bjc) "he also already justified his reasoning. he sparked discussion. we are now following up on it."


Are these guys best friends or what?

I will address these because i may not be ic here or se, but i do have a fair amount of experience from my home site i would say. so I will adress them each and what i see from it.

29: your post to me was off-setting because it was at someone else and you had an urge to question it, now you could be causing some discussion but it could also be a "OMG YOUR VOTING MY SCUM BUDDY" newbie mistake.

30: me trying to stir some discussion with you by askign why you care so much

31: this is just some reads i have based of guts and the interaction. however its not yet set in stone

37: here you didnt mention post 36 where you had a defensive nature to me, post 37 was OMGUS for the most part.

38: bjc is wanting to know you reasoning for voting me because your vote as i said in the last line is mostly OMGUS, his could be the same in a sense.

42: more like i was clarifying what he was doing

Also
#41 "Who are you addressing here?" How is it unclear? The post came directly after yours and is talking about what you are talking about. It is directed to you.
#42 ika agrees with bjc some more "this i would like to hear as well. it is surprisingly vauge" even though it wasn't vague at all.
#52 ika: "Right now in early stage i find that votes are nothing more then conversation pieces" Followed by some utterly generic questions.

Sorry, I'm trying not to tunnel here, but you two look like scum buddies to me.

41 and 42: I was unsure and just wanted some clarification. It doesn't hurt to have things clarified when you don't understand

52: how does post 52 pertain to our buddying? if you mean by generating contents then possible.

As for the scum buddies, i can see where you are coming from to think that but sadly you are mistaken.

[bjc]

@nacho
What makes you think these guys are town?

Would like to see nacho's thoughts.



Let's get a wagon going doe.

[bjc]

[bjc]

Hey nacho want to flip your vote to emeraldemon?

[RayFrost]

I didn't remember to out from a second game and now I'm here. I will eventually have time to actually BE present. Until then, I've gotta sort out my life and try to find room in my schedule because holy fuck.

[GuyInFreezer]

PurpleBandit3000 and Crown haven't pick their role PMs up and will be replaced.

[bjc]

Thank God

[GuyInFreezer]

Lynch Me Bro replaces PurpleBandit3000!

[Wagon Me Pal]

Hello, I'm the replacement for Purplebandit. I just see a jumble of random votes in Rvs as usual, however I see a bit of scumbuddying between bjc and ika. They seem kind of defensive towards eachother

[bjc]

Sweet, someone who will post. Now we just need one more replacement and for RayFrost to figure his situation out...

LMB, can you quote or gather up the post(s) that suggest scumbuddying? Thank you.

[ika]

VOTE: AbboTT

im on break from work expect to find me later

[GuyInFreezer]

TierShift replaces Crown!

[GuyInFreezer]

Bump