League of Legends (Old)

[quadz08]

Chess, I think the biggest thing is that you're taking "this loss was your fault" to mean "this loss was

entirely

your fault." I didn't watch any of the games, so I guess you could be the sole reason your team is losing, but it seems unlikely. You can't really help the other guys who suck, you can only improve you-who-sucks. *shrug*

[Junpei]

Okay heres a tip to get better in mid lane:

At 315 ward the side of the river where the enemy wraiths are at; ward up over the wall if you can. Play the lane favoring that side. Whenever your opponent CS's , hit him with a spell or auto attack. Watch him closely for when his animations are starting so you can dodge skill shots and have a heads up on his autos.

Never panic, people always run away as fast as they can and flash prematurely. Don't flash till the last second you have to unless you're being permaslowed; and only barrier at the last second as the final dmg is coming in. If an opponent is walking up to you, as soon as he turns around hit him with a spell/auto, if he is far enough away, hit him as he walks up, effectively kiting him. People who suck will walk up, then turn around; after getting hit, they try to trade back so they turn around again. If you back off you can repeat this cycle to chunk bads.

Dont miss CS for no reason. If you miss CS it should be because you were putting hard poke onto enemy champions, you got ganked, or you recalled. If you miss for no reason, everyone does but it means you need to focus on CSing more. CSing is like defense in football, it travels well to any division/tier.

Cancel autos, as soon as the particle of the auto attack comes out, move around.

When entering a bush, dont right click, click A, then left click a lot as you approach the bush; it will prevent jukes.

There are many walls which you can ward over, it is VERY IMPORTANT that you learn these, as they can win you objectives and team fights. One that I'll mention is the rive brush in bot/top lane can be warded from inside the lane (around the corner) and over the wall next to your tri. Ward that way if you might be getting ganked.

Push for level 2 early on, but not super hard, if you have a 2 minion advantage that's good enough, you dont want to clear the wave before he kills more than one minion; no reason to push that hard.

There, some tips, I have trouble coming up with things because lots of it is second nature to me now that I"ve done it so many times... if you have questions just ask, I know bot lane best.

[GreyICE]

I'll last hit your mom

also latency is like ping

I have no idea what my ping is - I never check >.>

Okay, you should. Yellow bar in the top right corner. If it goes above two boxes, last hitting with anyone who ain't Malzahar or Gragas or some shit like that becomes hilariously difficult. Like comedy of fucking errors difficult.

Other than that, just click the minions if you need to until you get a good idea of how much health they have and how much your AA does, and remember that it's fine to let them get down to "well below my AA damage" rather than trying to last hit them when you exactly think you can do so. That's the biggest mistake I see people doing when I support for them (and I like playing support), they AA and leave the minion with like, 6 health or something. Let the other minions AA it down a bit more, then attack when you're 100% sure you'll kill it.

GENERAL BIG TIP PEOPLE:

If your support has Relic Shield/Brace/Face then for fucks sake let them last hit the cannon minion. Don't go Mystic shotting it like you're trying to win a prize.

[Junpei]

eh i have 100ish ping alot and cs fine

Also relic shield sucks dont get it but if you have to, then tell your adc and ping minions you want to take. I assume my support isn't going to hit a minion unless they ping it; and a tip to you: dont relic shield caster minions.

[TheIrishPope]

I play with 300-450 ping and I guess my CS is ok

[RayFrost]

I play at 140-200 ping and tend to cs just fine unless it's my first game that day. I think it's more a matter of what you're used to than actual ping problems (up to a point, of course: 9k ping isn't playable, etc etc)

[chesskid3]

eh i have 100ish ping alot and cs fine

Also relic shield sucks dont get it but if you have to, then tell your adc and ping minions you want to take. I assume my support isn't going to hit a minion unless they ping it; and a tip to you: dont relic shield caster minions.

I saw the math done somewhere that targons brace is like the best gold item of the three

[Saki]

in my games I'll usually have ~65 cs by 10 and 150 by 20.

Most players in my skill bracket (somewhat high gold/low plat) are like that.

Don't beat yourselves up because you can't get 10cs/min.

[GreyICE]

eh i have 100ish ping alot and cs fine

Also relic shield sucks dont get it but if you have to, then tell your adc and ping minions you want to take. I assume my support isn't going to hit a minion unless they ping it; and a tip to you: dont relic shield caster minions.

What.

One of the gold items gives me some hp5 and mp5. One of the gold items gives me some AP and makes me hit enemies on a consistent schedule which can be a huge pain in the ass if my opponents are smart (especially on anyone that buys Relic Shield). One of the gold items fucking gives me a ton of HP (which rocks), some sweet health regen (which rocks), AND gives my AD more gold and health (which rocks).

Like there's only one reason I wouldn't build Relic Shield on every single support.

[Saki]

Coin > Shield in the current meta

[Saki]

Coin > all, actually

I haven't seen anyone building anything else

edit: except for maaaybe Taric

[GreyICE]

Leona and Malphite still good.

Obviously ranged supports don't build it That was my joke about 'one reason'

[Saki]

Nah
I'd rather get coin on leona for the movespeed and cdr

[animorpherv1]

I'll last hit your mom

also latency is like ping

I have no idea what my ping is - I never check >.>

Okay, you should. Yellow bar in the top right corner. If it goes above two boxes, last hitting with anyone who ain't Malzahar or Gragas or some shit like that becomes hilariously difficult. Like comedy of fucking errors difficult.

Other than that, just click the minions if you need to until you get a good idea of how much health they have and how much your AA does, and remember that it's fine to let them get down to "well below my AA damage" rather than trying to last hit them when you exactly think you can do so. That's the biggest mistake I see people doing when I support for them (and I like playing support), they AA and leave the minion with like, 6 health or something. Let the other minions AA it down a bit more, then attack when you're 100% sure you'll kill it.

GENERAL BIG TIP PEOPLE:

If your support has Relic Shield/Brace/Face then for fucks sake let them last hit the cannon minion. Don't go Mystic shotting it like you're trying to win a prize.

Awesome, thanks! Also, agreed with the last bit - every time I play Taric, I grab the shield, and no one lets me get cannon minions.

[Glork]

Nah
I'd rather get coin on leona for the movespeed and cdr

This. Coin on Leona is great because you can use the active to initiate, and the CDR gives you better peel.

[BROseidon]

welp
went 5-5 in promos on my main and got placed in gold 4
/throws in the trash

if I don't get at least gold 1 on my alt im probably quitting this game for good

I went 4-6 and got Silver 1 :/

Just play for like 2-3 weeks and you'll get back to something respectable. Early season wonkiness fucks shit up anyways.

[chesskid3]

lets me

I find walking into the minion wave and hitting that bitch from full hp down to be a good indicator of THIS MINION IS MINE

[MrZepher]

Targons is only really good on tanky supports in lanes where you're definitely going to get kills, or you have multiple types of initiate on your team and you only need to focus on keeping your carry alive. FoTM is really good peel otherwise. Doran's shield is good on everything.

Pro-tip, don't ward red against red starting junglers unless your whole team is there to back you up. Defensive ward tri or the brush directly behind red (since you can do it without getting gibbed... usually...), otherwise you can drop a ward into the red area over the wall or you can get brave and ward the brush that gives all the vision.
It's usually safe to ward blue unless they have somebody standing at the entrance (you don't need to ward the brush, vision of blue itself still tells you when the camp is clear which is the important part).
If you're blue side the only brushes that need to stay warded are your own jungle entrances and dragon. Blue buff is nice if your jungler has active pressure on the map otherwise don't worry about it

If I'm playing mid I'll actually usually put a pink ward in our own red brush. This prevents enemy wards there and lets bot/top know when people are roaming through our jungle. The rest of my wards go to the side brushes since my map awareness is terrible but I have decent reaction times.

Edit: I'm an idiot sometimes. (shield>targons)

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

I HATE relic shield/targon's brace with a passion.

My teammates always forget after like the 10 minute mark, so I end up getting no gold out of it at all... yeah i'm a gold greedy support.

[Junpei]

disagree

shield > coin, targon, spelltheif, w/e else

You need to be tanky enough to trade, you need to be able to take autos (the main source of poke). You need to be able to execute and defend against level 2 all ins. You can easily complete shurlias after sightstone; and you get more gold off of early kills than you do from coin lol

Coin = no stats essentially, its just a gold item. And coin on leonna is so useless, the thing about targon is that it makes it easy to CS 100% of minions, but regardless shield is just too powerful. All main supports can get kills early: thresh, leona, lulu, annie

shield lets you push early with support, it lets you win trades easily, and it lets you win all ins more often

[BROseidon]

Shield start is fucking broken

[Brandi]

Once you start taking the D shield you never go back

[GreyICE]

Confirmed: Brandi uses protection

[MrZepher]

Edited my post, I meant to say targon's not doran's shield. My bad.

Dorans shield start is also really good on carries that have bad trades early on (think kogmaw/vayne into a lucian lane)

[chesskid3]

can xpeke/sjokz be a thing please