The Fall of Gondolin Mafia: Game Over (The Tale of Gondolin)

[JacobSavage]

I dunno. I feel like JS would be more active if he were scum in this situation. I dunno. I could see it, but I dunno.

You do know who JacobSavage is, right?

I'm afraid I only know him from my Micro. Where he was a Jester.

I asked him about his pre-game reasons out of interest and to see if they are total bullshit.

They're not and though the logic is faulty it makes pervetted sense. So I'm reasonably sure Esp is town and I'm almost certain TIP is too.

So best of a bad bunch: VOTE: SirDan

[chamber]

I'm as obvTown as they come

Fuck nope.

[Tierce]

I'm as obvTown as they come

Fuck nope.

We can argue about this until we're both red in the face or you can accept the fact that it is a bad vote and move it off. I'm Town, I'm not getting lynched (...this isn't a Vi game), and your vote is doing nothing but being generally annoying--and for that we have the rest of the thread already.

[Natirasha]

While I am in agreement that Tierce isn't completely confirmed yet, chamber, she is not getting lynched today and your vote is wasted there.

[shos]

Tierce is definitely not getting lynched but is nowhere even nearing confirmed, nor obvtown, her scumgame is really good. my towngame this day was subpar, but seems like veryone is disagreeing with my reads, so we'll see about tomorrow.

[MafiaSSK]

Unvote, vote CES

Yeah, let's do this!
VOTE: CES

[Shadoweh]

What the fuck is going on in here. If you want to argue your pet scumreads do it tomorrow when you're not just spreading the votes so thin that the last hour is going to be a game of compromise on the biggest wagon. Make a choice now, either TIP, JS or Espionage is getting lynched.

Unvote, vote CES

It's not happening, vote TIP.

Unvote vote tierce

*sweat*

chamber, you're drunk, go home. But before you do that, vote TIP.

So best of a bad bunch: VOTE: SirDan

You fucking idiot, vote one of your counterwagons, if you're going to be useless at least be useless and voting someone who'll get lynched in the next 24 hours.

Yeah, let's do this!
VOTE: CES

Why are you doing this to me? You're tearing me apart here! HE'S NOT GETTING LYNCHED TODAY. Vote for someone votable! Liiiiiiiiiiiiike TIP

Peeregrine: That's kind of depressing. My scum posting is horrible and I don't understand why people can't tell the difference. In one of them, I'm actually enjoying myself playing the mystery game. In the other I want to sleep until I wake up and my role pm turned green.

[sirdanilot]

I dunno. I feel like JS would be more active if he were scum in this situation. I dunno. I could see it, but I dunno.

You do know who JacobSavage is, right?

I'm afraid I only know him from my Micro. Where he was a Jester.

I asked him about his pre-game reasons out of interest and to see if they are total bullshit.

They're not and though the logic is faulty it makes pervetted sense. So I'm reasonably sure Esp is town and I'm almost certain TIP is too.

So best of a bad bunch: VOTE: SirDan

Scum trying to make sure no lynch happens today by starting a new wagon that has no chance at all.

And he will succeed too because THIS TOWN IS FUCKING BRAIN DEAD.

[sirdanilot]

Unvote, vote CES

ABR vote Jacob. His lynch is more likely and he's scum too, just like CES. CES lynch has way too few followers at this point.

If you don't vote jacob you're probably scum or sk or something bad too.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote, vote JS

[MafiaSSK]

ABR, really? Vote CES. His lynch can be likely especially if you support it. He's scummy scum who is scum.

[Aegor]

ABR, really? Vote CES. His lynch can be likely especially if you support it. He's scummy scum who is scum.

This is a total waste and a way to avoid commitment to the lynch.

[Natirasha]

This is a total waste and a way to avoid commitment to the lynch.

(eyeroll)

[Shadoweh]

It's really not. Jacob is a better vote then CES at this point.

[JacobSavage]

Really I've been getting nothing but town from CES so I don't really see where this is springing from to be perfectly honest.

Literally the only reason I'd vote ANY of them is to avoid a no lynch and 24 hours is long enough to get a decent wagon on someone actually scummy.

[chamber]

What the fuck is going on in here. If you want to argue your pet scumreads do it tomorrow when you're not just spreading the votes so thin that the last hour is going to be a game of compromise on the biggest wagon. Make a choice now, either TIP, JS or Espionage is getting lynched.

Unvote, vote CES

It's not happening, vote TIP.

Unvote vote tierce

*sweat*

chamber, you're drunk, go home. But before you do that, vote TIP.

So best of a bad bunch: VOTE: SirDan

You fucking idiot, vote one of your counterwagons, if you're going to be useless at least be useless and voting someone who'll get lynched in the next 24 hours.

Yeah, let's do this!
VOTE: CES

Why are you doing this to me? You're tearing me apart here! HE'S NOT GETTING LYNCHED TODAY. Vote for someone votable! Liiiiiiiiiiiiike TIP

Peeregrine: That's kind of depressing. My scum posting is horrible and I don't understand why people can't tell the difference. In one of them, I'm actually enjoying myself playing the mystery game. In the other I want to sleep until I wake up and my role pm turned green.

I don't like any of the 'viable' wagons so I'm choosing to make my own.

[Shadoweh]

Who are you planning to vote in twenty hours when you get tired of being alone?
Jacob, what you're doing is the equivalent of rolling over and dying. If you're going to do that at least post reads instead of plopping your vote down nowhere and waiting for oblivion. If you're town you should realize there's a 100% chance that every one of those 'too townie people' is less confirmed to yourself then you are.

[TheIrishPope]

Ok I found scum
VOTE: Tierce

[Desperado]

Ok I found scum
VOTE: Tierce

Nope, Tierce is pretty fucking town this page. Shadoweh too.

You should vote Jacob.

[Tierce]

Why, TIP? Because I didn't bother to answer your reads question?

How is any of that is relevant right now? I'm voting the wagon that I think is on scum, I pushed it to where it is (hey look, someone who actually has logical skill and the charisma to back it up~), I really have no business haring off with other reads. Some of them are obvious as it is, and if you can't tell them by now, you're not going to get any more enlightenment through a reads list.

I'm being cryptic because I can and because there's really no point in discussing other things right now. Deal with it.


JacobSavage: if sirdanilot's (nonexistent) wagon is the "best of a bad bunch", why do you follow it up with this:

Literally the only reason I'd vote ANY of them is to avoid a no lynch and 24 hours is long enough to get a decent wagon on someone actually scummy.

Who is "someone actually scummy" and how do you expect to get them lynched? Where do you want this wagon?

[MafiaSSK]

You know what, Tierce? I'm just going to say it. You're being pretty anti-town here. You're being selfish. You're claiming the whole JacobSavage wagon is your doing. You keep repeating just how "town" you are. But you're not the lynch for today.

I'll let JacobSavage be the lynch for today. But only because that's the real main wagon and it's deadline. It's a wagon that's based off of false premises by a bad wagon leader.

Vote: JacobSavage

[Aegor]

How is any of that is relevant right now? I'm voting the wagon that I think is on scum, I pushed it to where it is (

hey look, someone who actually has logical skill and the charisma to back it up

~), I really have no business haring off with other reads. Some of them are obvious as it is, and if you can't tell them by now, you're not going to get any more enlightenment through a reads list.

I'm being cryptic because I can

and because there's really no point in discussing other things right now. Deal with it.

Will this continue the entire game? Let me know so I can act accordingly.



JS wagon is awful, but I want to see where it goes anyway.

VOTE: JacobSavage

[Plum]

But Eöl, following after Aredhel, found the Dry River and the secret path, and so creeping in by stealth he came to the Guard, and was taken and questioned. And when the Guard heard that he claimed Aredhel as wife they were amazed, and sent a swift messenger to the City; and he came to the King's hall.

'Lord,' he cried, 'the Guard have taken captive one that came by stealth to the Dark Gate. Eöl he names himself, and he is a tall Elf, dark and grim, of the kindred of the Sindar; yet he claims the Lady Aredhel as his wife, and demands to be brought before you. His wrath is great and he is hard to restrain; but we have not slain him as your law commands.'

Then Aredhel said: 'Alas! Eöl has followed us, even as I feared. But with great stealth was it done; for we saw and heard no pursuit as we entered upon the Hidden Way.' Then she said to the messenger: 'He speaks but the truth. He is Eöl, and I am his wife, and he is the father of my son. Slay him not, but lead him hither to the King's judgement, if the King so wills.'

And so it was done; and Eöl was brought to Turgon's hall and stood before his high seat, proud and sullen. Though he was amazed no less than his son at all that he saw, his heart was filled the more with anger and with hate of the Noldor. But Turgon treated him with honour, and rose up and would take his hand; and he said: "Welcome, kinsman, for so I hold you. Here you shall dwell at your pleasure, save only that you must here abide and depart not from my kingdom; for it is my law that none who finds the way hither shall depart.'

But Eöl withdrew his hand. 'I acknowledge not your law,' he said. 'No right have you or any of your kin in this land to seize realms or to set bounds, either here or there. This is the land of the Teleri, to which you bring war and all unquiet, dealing ever proudly and unjustly. I care nothing for your secrets and I came not to spy upon you, but to claim my own: my wife and my son. Yet if in Aredhel your sister you have some claim, then let her remain; let the bird go back to the cage, where soon she will sicken again, as she sickened before. But not so Maeglin. My son you shall not withhold from me. Come, Maeglin son of Eöl! Your father commands you. Leave the house of his enemies and the slayers of his kin, or be accursed!' But Maeglin answered nothing.

Then Turgon sat in his high seat holding his staff of doom, and in a stem voice spoke: 'I will not debate with you, Dark Elf. By the swords of the Noldor alone are your sunless woods defended. Your freedom to wander there wild you owe to my kin; and but for them long since you would have laboured in thraldom in the pits of Angband. And here I am King; and whether you will it or will it not, my doom is law. This choice only is given to you: to abide here, or to die here; and so also for your son.'

Then Eöl looked into the eyes of King Turgon, and he was not daunted, but stood long without word or movement while a still silence fell upon the hall; and Aredhel was afraid, knowing that he was perilous. Suddenly, swift as serpent, he seized a javelin that he held hid beneath his cloak and cast it at Maeglin, crying:

'The second choice I take and for my son also! You shall not hold what is mine!'

But Aredhel sprang before the dart, and it smote her in the shoulder; and Eöl was overborne by many and set in bonds, and led away, while others tended Aredhel. But Maeglin looking upon his father was silent.

VOTE COUNT 1:18

Shadoweh

- 1 - PeregrineV

Espeonage

- 2 - SpyreX, ActionDan

JacobSavage

- 7 - Tierce, Desperado, sirdanilot, shos, Albert B. Rampage, MafiaSSK, Aegor

TheIrishPope

- 5 - Natirasha, Shadoweh, Espeonage, Cogito Ergo Sum, Elscouta

Tierce

- 2 - chamber, TheIrishPope

sirdanilot

- 1 - JacobSavage

Not voting (0)

With 18 players alive it takes

10

votes to lynch.
Deadline is in

(expired on 2014-01-23 01:00:00)

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[MafiaSSK]

Nat, why are you on the TIP wagon?

[Tierce]

You know what, Tierce? I'm just going to say it. You're being pretty anti-town here. You're being selfish. You're claiming the whole JacobSavage wagon is your doing. You keep repeating just how "town" you are. But you're not the lynch for today.

I'll let JacobSavage be the lynch for today. But only because that's the real main wagon and it's deadline. It's a wagon that's based off of false premises by a bad wagon leader.

Vote: JacobSavage

Uhm, no. I did push the wagon, that's obvious--it was at two people and going nowhere until I did something about it. And if you've actually meta'd me, you know that yes, I am obvTown as Town and hardly have problems saying so, and that I push my suspects and manage to summon up wagons. You're putting it like I'm smothering the game with that stuff, when what I'm doing is trying to push my preferred lynch through (and doing it pretty successfully, apparently!).

How is any of that is relevant right now? I'm voting the wagon that I think is on scum, I pushed it to where it is (

hey look, someone who actually has logical skill and the charisma to back it up

~), I really have no business haring off with other reads. Some of them are obvious as it is, and if you can't tell them by now, you're not going to get any more enlightenment through a reads list.

I'm being cryptic because I can

and because there's really no point in discussing other things right now. Deal with it.

Will this continue the entire game? Let me know so I can act accordingly.



JS wagon is awful, but I want to see where it goes anyway.

VOTE: JacobSavage

The former is a jab at the Messieurs who keep clamoring for wagons without any real effective attempt at pushing them. Yeah, it's mean. I'm tired of them.

Me being cryptic? Nah. But there's really no point to do otherwise at this moment. When my reads are worth sharing more thoroughly, sure.


I keep seeing a lot of people saying JacobSavage is a bad wagon (why?) even as they compromise onto it because it's the main wagon. It being the main wagon is a self-fulfilling prophecy, y'know.