Mini 1537: ATTACK ON TITAN (Game Over!)

[Bert]

Do you get a vengekill like Benmage did in the past Faraday's game if you get killed at night?

P-edit: OK maybe I needed that wake-up call.

[Kagami]

kaze's powers almost certainly don't work in mylo/lylo just as he said. That would be too stupid and I can't imagine it getting through review, especially if he's scum.

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

And my play as scum would not be "shitty-ass"? Not sure how you get the notion that I have towntold extensively in this game. There is like one other person in this game who agrees I have towntold extensively. The hard-defending makes me pretty paranoid hehe.

Stop it. You've towntold through your schizo theories, suicidal nature, and the off-the-cusp responses for one. Scum had you planned as an obvious mislynch going into today(seriously go check how many people said "yeah bert's scum" at daystart). The only reason we're in this situation is because I've had your back.

PEDIT: I'm not answering questions about the kill trigger.

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

kaze's powers almost certainly don't work in mylo/lylo just as he said. That would be too stupid and I can't imagine it getting through review, especially if he's scum.

You have any cool datamined data on private doublevoters vs alignment?

[Bert]

Because 'o ye orders, ye squib gunna stop tryin' to get himself in Davy Jones' treasure chest!

[Kagami]

The mylo stipulation is odd, though. Lylo makes perfect sense.

p-edit: no. I've been consulting on top of my usual job all month and haven't had a chance to work on that much. I'd had problems with finding players' alignments automatically due to the wild variation in how moderators handle flips, which I haven't yet solved.

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

Damn.

Now, squib, please vote for mastin again.

[Bert]

I gunna comely wench bein' a martyr. Squib be sad 'bout that!

[Bert]

Aww it translated 'miss' to comely wench. That's bad translating! Bad translator, bad. BAD.

[Paschendale]

I'm seriously confused. Kaze is full of shit, right? Nobody's hammered? And I seriously missed the catalyst for for this Mastin push. And I don't get how Bert or I will be "worked out" via tonight's night actions. Are we getting investigated? This has been my big frustration with this game. There's a group of players who all seem to be on the same wavelength and refuse to explain anything they're thinking to the rest of us. It feels like the wagon on me yesterday, and the wagons on Bert and Mastin now, stem from us not being in the "in" club. Nor do I think that all of the players (Kagami, Tammy, Kaze, Bro, and Rancid) in this special clique are town.

[Kazekirimaru]

I'm going to gouge my eyes out.

[Kagami]

Yes, kaze was full of excrement.

Pie is the only one I really trust, but my current opinion is that there's a strong possibility that the entire neighborhood is town, but if it isn't, kaze is the scummo. I think that bro+kthx are probably town, but the "loss" they suffer from the other dying is completely silly.

Pie more or less gave the gist of my thoughts on why bert is a bad lynch for today. I have additional thoughts about how what goes down tonight might be interpreted, but they're little more than wild speculation until it actually happens.

Why do you think mastin is town?

[Kazekirimaru]

Nobody is thinking for a split-second that Bert is saying "kill me" so we, y'know, won't do that?

My God. It's a Jester tell but there's not even a Jester. Why are you people so reluctant to kill obvious scum?

[Kazekirimaru]

Kagami, Bert is currently voting himself. If you believe him town and me scum, I should have hammered and won by now. I can't be scum if he's town.

[Kagami]

Why would you have won?

I never said bert was town, but he might be.

[pieguyn]

kaze's powers almost certainly don't work in mylo/lylo just as he said. That would be too stupid and I can't imagine it getting through review, especially if he's scum.

how about an extra scumkill that works even when it would be LYLO without it? that's p much the exact same thing as this and that got allowed. see: imperishable night http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=32587

I'm seriously confused. Kaze is full of shit, right? Nobody's hammered? And I seriously missed the catalyst for for this Mastin push. And I don't get how Bert or I will be "worked out" via tonight's night actions. Are we getting investigated?

the way I see it is if we observe both of you for another night then we'll get more information from night actions, etc. that could help us figure out what your roles/alignments are. e.g. if someone does an action on Bert and it fails then he's probably a scum ascetic or similar. there's a lot of confusion as to what happened N1 and having another night could help us figure it out. thus, it's better to lynch someone who's not you or Bert today

mastin is scum bc {BRO, Tammy, me, Kagami, kthx} are all town and you and muffinati are probably town

my current guess for scumteam is {Kaze, mastin, Bert}. I'm inclined to agree with Tammy's read on Bert but I also agree it's better to not lynch him today. if it's not him it's probably Brian instead

[Kazekirimaru]

Never mind me. I thought for a second this was it.

[Kazekirimaru]

Still not scum, though~

[pieguyn]

...wat

[Kazekirimaru]

I thought today was MyLo or LyLo. I'm getting games mixed up.

[Paschendale]

the way I see it is if we observe both of you for another night then we'll get more information from night actions, etc. that could help us figure out what your roles/alignments are. e.g. if someone does an action on Bert and it fails then he's probably a scum ascetic or similar. there's a lot of confusion as to what happened N1 and having another night could help us figure it out. thus, it's better to lynch someone who's not you or Bert today

mastin is scum bc {BRO, Tammy, me, Kagami, kthx} are all town and you and muffinati are probably town

my current guess for scumteam is {Kaze, mastin, Bert}. I'm inclined to agree with Tammy's read on Bert but I also agree it's better to not lynch him today. if it's not him it's probably Brian instead

You're about the only one I'm willing to give a strong townread on. Maybe Tammy, but not as much. Kagami is maybe shifting away from strong scum, but I wouldn't declare Bro or Kthx as solidly anything, especially Kthx. Muffin hydra I'm on the fence about, too, but yeah he's probably town. Kaze is definitely scum. I don't think Bert is, but self votes are never good and I feel like reasons for voting Bert are, like those for Mastin, something that just isn't being made clear to me.

So, aside from PoE, what's the case on Mastin? I really don't understand it. I'd like to understand it, but every time I ask, nobody will explain it. All I keep getting is PoE, and people handing out townreads that I don't agree with and certainly don't feel strongly enough about to PoE with. I wouldn't want to PoE at all on day 2, anyway.

Can we please just hang Kaze? He's just mucking everything up and obscuring any conclusions we reach. He's adding fog and he's pushing bad wagons.

[Kazekirimaru]

Sure. Sure. Lynch Kaze. Sure.

I don't even care.

[Kagami]

Muffin, I get the other points from your early post, but why did your role PM indicate to you that this is 10:3?

p-edit: not lynching kaze today.

[pitoli]

VOTECOUNT 2.8

Kazekirimaru (1):

Paschendale

Bert (5):

Kazekirimaru, kthxbye, BROseidon, mastin2, Bert

Mastin2 (3):

Rancid Broderick Drake, Pieguyn, Kagami

BROseidon (1):

Tammy

Not Voting (1)

: Brian Skies

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2014-02-01 00:00:00)

Mod Comments:

[BROseidon]

Dat reaction test.