Open 538: Diffusion of Power (Game Over)

[BoroPhil]

So, Lucky.

When you think I'm scum, you think my partner is Smudger.

When I flip town, you are then going to go for Smudger.

Brilliant.

[Smudger]

Boro, you reaction to the current situation are somewhat concerning. It smacks of desperation and to be honest has me doubting you. However that desperation could actually be town. I don't agree on you thoughts regarding ETL. Your theory on the claim is possible, but I think she is town, and I have done for a long time. I do agree on your take on Aptil though why do we find his claim believable? Besides the claim and his reason what else has stood out? I am beginning to think that Lucky and Aptil are our remaining scum team.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

I'm still here and planning to finish playing this game, jsyk.

I dont think I like the boro wagon but I cant tell if my feelings have changed due to the AtE or something else. AtE isnt really a tell for either way but I cant tell if it was genuine or not. It seemed so but I do have doubts because of how I felt about boro before.

I need a reset. Zebe, you have my vote. Help.

[BBmolla]

ADmittedly I'm a sucker for AtE and that's why I'm not like "FULL SPEED AHEAD" atm

[anorway]

Deadline: (expired on 2014-02-03 16:00:00)

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Vote Count 3.5

[L-5] DoctorPepper
[L-5] Zebe
[L-5] BBmolla
[L-5] Smudger
[L-5] aptil
[L-4]

Lucky2u

: Smudger
[L-4]

EspeciallyTheLies

: BoroPhil

[L-1]

BoroPhil

: DoctorPepper, Zebe, aptil, Lucky2u

Not voting (2): BBmolla, EspeciallyTheLies

[BoroPhil]

How long til Aptil posts again?

[BoroPhil]

VOTE: Kalimar

Someone just slid through the cracks of the cheery wagon while not having content yesterday

BB, considering this was DrPepper's first post of day 2, why did you pick him to look at?

[Lucky2u]

So, Lucky.

When you think I'm scum, you think my partner is Smudger.

When I flip town, you are then going to go for Smudger.

Brilliant.

Well its a logical path now that we know there is definitely scum in the doctor pool. If you flip scum I actually need to rethink that, but you asked if you flipped town.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Can someone list all the claims?

[Smudger]

Still alive

DoctorPepper - Doc
Zebe - Doc
BBmolla - Cop
EspeciallyTheLies - Cop
aptil - Doc
Lucky2u - Doc
BoroPhil - Doc
Me - Doc

We can start a GP in someone's home town[/sarcasm]

[Smudger]

Lucky when you flip scum we go after Aptil or Boro.

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Kalimar

Someone just slid through the cracks of the cheery wagon while not having content yesterday

BB, considering this was DrPepper's first post of day 2, why did you pick him to look at?

I didn't look that hard. It was kind of "We're lynching DP or Kali" and I'm pretty sure him being the other wagon wouldn't have stopped a lynch on him.

TBH I still thought he was scum from PoE.

[aptil]

@Boro : You call Zebe and DrP certainly town . In the same post you mention 1 of BB and ETL is probably scum . Then how do the former two become certainly town ? Is this contradicting or not .
Also your post start of today #934 felt fake to me . So i do actually feel this is the best lynch for today .

[BoroPhil]

So, Lucky.

When you think I'm scum, you think my partner is Smudger.

When I flip town, you are then going to go for Smudger.

Brilliant.

Well its a logical path now that we know there is definitely scum in the doctor pool. If you flip scum I actually need to rethink that, but you asked if you flipped town.

at 1092 you asked if Smudger was my scum partner.

at 1099 you said if I flipped town, you were going after Smudger.

isn't that contradictory? Or is Smudger just megascum to you? Which begs the question why you are voting for me.

But you've been pretty contradictory all along. What do you reckon Aptil?

[BoroPhil]

@Boro : You call Zebe and DrP certainly town . In the same post you mention 1 of BB and ETL is probably scum . Then how do the former two become certainly town ? Is this contradicting or not .
Also your post start of today #934 felt fake to me . So i do actually feel this is the best lynch for today .

This post actually makes me doubt if you are scum. It's either scum playing really dumb or you genuinely don't have a clue what's going on here.

It's been explained several times that Zebe and Dr.Pepper are almost certainly town.

Two scenarios:
- BB/ETL are scum and clear a townie for town cred
- BB/ETL are town and genuinely clear a townie

The only scenario in which Zebe is scum is if ETL is. And the only scenario in which DrP is scum is if BB is.

I think it's possible ETL is scum for the reasons I've explained.
BBMolla a lot less so, because he did it after we were one down.

So, no. Not at all contradictory. Your reasons are rubbish. If you are town I'd expect you to remove your vote now (well in 2 days time when you post next).

and as for #934. you are basically copying ETL. who never did explain why that was a reason for voting me to begin with.

[Lucky2u]

UNVOTE:

[Lucky2u]

VOTE: Aptil

[EspeciallyTheLies]

The only scenario in which Zebe is scum is if ETL is

This is... completely false. If I were scum, and claimed cop, what's stopping me from clearing a townie for cred? Your logic makes no sense here. I don't know if it's because you aren't actually thinking about what you're saying or because you simply can't when you roll scum. The logic here is, if Zebe were scum, I'd definitely be scum, because as town, would not get an innocent on him. Yet you take another road and say something that makes no sense.

Why is this not dead yet?

[BoroPhil]

The only scenario in which Zebe is scum is if ETL is

This is... completely false. If I were scum, and claimed cop, what's stopping me from clearing a townie for cred? Your logic makes no sense here. I don't know if it's because you aren't actually thinking about what you're saying or because you simply can't when you roll scum. The logic here is, if Zebe were scum, I'd definitely be scum, because as town, would not get an innocent on him. Yet you take another road and say something that makes no sense.

Why is this not dead yet?

You've totally misunderstood me haven't you?

You have claimed cop and cleared Zebe.

There are 3 possibilities:

a) you are town and Zebe is town
b) you are scum and Zebe is town
c) you are scum and Zebe is scum?

No? The only way Zebe can be scum is if you are?

[BoroPhil]

Or are you actually trying to deliberately misrep me here?

[BoroPhil]

you are so desperate to label me as scum aren't you?
so desperate to hammer me the other day?

now you read that, thought you had spotted a hole to lay on me, yet in your hurry you haven't even read it properly?

you aren't making any attempts to scumhunt whatsoever. "Zebe, please help me!"

you are scum.

Smudger, BBM, DrP, Zebe. Look at this and read it.

Remember how upset ETL got when she was challenged about being conftown. Look at how she has tunnelled me constantly today.

[BoroPhil]

and don't be fooled by the fact she hasn't hammered. No doubt worried by the fact she would be targetted tomorrow.

[BoroPhil]

I never claimed to be conftown. I am going to evaluate scum activity from the point of view that makes sense for scum. The Bo kill makes sense to me,

because

it's what I'd do as scum. Somebody asked me why it made sense; I answered.

The real question is, why are you trying to "poke holes" in my claim, instead of questioning me about my reasoning, like others have been doing? That's the fucking point I have been making the people seem to be missing.

Your entire motivation is to "poke holes" (i.e. DISCREDIT) in my claim, whereas others motivation is to determine if it's true or not by asking questions about the choices I made. Scum want to "poke holes"; they don't care about the reasoning. Just like you don't care about the reasoning.

Lucky is scum, and needs to be lynched.

This post is quite ironic really. Instead of thinking about the motivation of mine above, or the reasoning or what it meant, you've gone looking for holes. You think you've spotted one. Unfortunately for you, you haven't quite understood what I was saying and have got it wrong. Big mistake.

You backed off yesterday because you KNEW it would fall on you tomorrow when I flipped town. And now you looked desperately for an opportunity.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

VOTE: Borophil

I'm not scum.

If zebe is scum, I have to be scum. It's simple fucking logic that you failed to represent.

[BoroPhil]

"The only scenario in which Zebe is scum is if ETL is."

THAT IS WHAT I SAID

IF ZEBE IS SCUM, YOU HAVE TO BE SCUM.

totally backed yourself into a corner here ETL. Unlucky.