Mini 1543--Natirasha's On Parole!(Game Over)

[Cabd]

Orcinus is approaching you today pretty much the way he approached forming a read on me in NY 165.

I have no recollection of how that went, so go for it?

[Selkies]

Orcinus is approaching you today pretty much the way he approached forming a read on me in NY 165.

I have no recollection of how that went, so go for it?

It annoyed me and made me nervous at the time. He pretty much stayed out of my way and maintained observation mode about me during day 1 until near the end of the day.

[Selkies]

UNVOTE

are you fucking serious

[Cabd]

Well, if my current health and apathy streak continues on this course, there wont be much to observe for a few IRL days.

[zMuffinMan]

It may be a while before we come to a consensus read on you.

what happened to me tweaking your model of scum-me then?

[Selkies]

It may be a while before we come to a consensus read on you.

what happened to me tweaking your model of scum-me then?

I kinda thought it was an intentional tweak. Overall I feel like you're playing much more aggressively here than you did in our last couple of games where you were scum, despite the tweak.

[Selkies]

Well, if my current health and apathy streak continues on this course, there wont be much to observe for a few IRL days.

Feel like talking about Aronis?

[Selkies]

Well, if my current health and apathy streak continues on this course, there wont be much to observe for a few IRL days.

Feel like talking about Aronis?

[zMuffinMan]

I kinda thought it was an intentional tweak

no? i don't even know what your model of scum-me is

Overall I feel like you're playing much more aggressively here than you did in our last couple of games where you were scum

even if i were being aggressive (and i don't think anything i've done here is particularly aggressive so i dunno what you're referring to), this seems like a strange reason to change your mind

[Selkies]

I kinda thought it was an intentional tweak

no? i don't even know what your model of scum-me is

good!

Overall I feel like you're playing much more aggressively here than you did in our last couple of games where you were scum

even if i were being aggressive (and i don't think anything i've done here is particularly aggressive so i dunno what you're referring to), this seems like a strange reason to change your mind

Aggressive might not be the best word for what I'm seeing as different in this game from bork's touhou mini and marketplace, but it's what comes to mind at dark-thirty am. You're engaging with players and poking at stuff in a way that's more reminiscent of some of your town games we've played. In Marketplace, you intentionally tweaked your meta to emulate your town games, so I'm not entirely put at ease by this, but I am not scumreading you.

[Idiotking]

Do you have meta with anybody here?

If you're asking who I know here, the only person I know is Katsuki. The only game we've played together was Katsuki's very first game on this site, from all the way back in 2010. I dunno if that's useful to you, but I've only played 2-3 games to completion since then.

Pedit: because you're a special little flower

D'awwwww....

[zMuffinMan]

but I am not scumreading you

so who are you scum reading, then?

[Bert]

Orcinus is approaching you today pretty much the way he approached forming a read on me in NY 165.

Can you describe Orc's playstyle for me?

[MafiaSSK]

So I know I said I wasn't going to do this, but I see Idiotking's reponse and I'm going to have wait until tomorrow to be able to give a fully formed reply. Life got busy.

[Natirasha]

Vote Count 1.15

MafiaSSK(1):

Idiotking

Cabd(0):

Selkies(3):

zMuffinman, Katsuki, kabooooom

zMuffinMan(1):

MafiaSSK

FourTrouble(1):

Bert

King Kenny(0):

The Goodfather(0):

kabooooom(0):

Bert(0):

RossWilliam(1):

FourTrouble

Aronis(1):

Cabd

Idiotking(0):

Katsuki(0):

No Lynch(0):

Not Voting(5):

King Kenny, The Goodfather, RossWilliam, Aronis, Selkies

With thirteen alive, it takes seven to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-02-04 21:00:00)

Prodding The Goodfather.

[The Goodfather]

jumping on the easy lynches already? that didn't take long.

Speak for yourself.

dude im town this game

And apparently an easy lynch. :/

I swear to god I

will

vote you.

This is why hydras give me migraines...

Seriously, you guys are playing achingly pro-scum so far, regardless of your actual alignment. It's basically 6 pages of meaningless clutter.

Agreed, the first 6 pages were almost entirely you three: {selkies, cabd, and mafiaSSK}. Given the sheer amount of spam, it is likely one of these three is scum, out of the three, I'd say SSK is my strongest town read because of his interactions with idiotking on page 11. Specifically post 270, in response from post 261 from idiot king. And on that note,

I get a strong town vibe from idiotking. His posts seem genuine, and his desire for justified votes is not only reasonable, its downright common sense. On a similar note, I find that ross williams has a similar post style to idiotking, I hope neither of you mind that association. I also liked his thoughts on selkies in 291.

In fact, selkies is my biggest scum read: spamming pages 1-6. Conversations between hydra heads like in the quote above, orcinus slipping and posting as himself several times, seeming to look for easy lynches, etc...

so, VOTE: Selkies

here is a tentative list of other reads:
Town:
Ross williams,
idiotking

null leaning town:
Bert
katsuki (asked some dec questions, although his initlal comment about rule 6 was more similar to my interpretation than that of others)
mafiaSSK (already talked about a bit.)

null:
muffin man (his post style really throws me off)
Four Trouble (been going back and forth on their posts. Gonna stay null til I hear more)


null leaning scum:
Cabd(overactivity first 6 pages, and then suddenly disappearing. Could just actually be sick. Could be avoiding the spotlight)
Selkies,
kabooooom and kingkenny and other lurkers
aronis (seems to be attempting to blend)


on a side note, I realize not all my null leaning scum leads are likely to be scum, but I prefer to be skeptical of people until I get a clearer town read. Its safer that way than assuming everyone is town until they act scummy.

[Aronis]

I am trying to blend in. I'm just not used to this style of Mafia and don't want to get lynched d1. I'm just trying to watch what happens for awhile, see others strategies, etc. Then make my moves.

[Cabd]

Cabd(overactivity first 6 pages, and then suddenly disappearing. Could just actually be sick. Could be avoiding the spotlight)

Listen up asshole, because I'm only gonna tell you this once.

Mafia is a game. You can insult my play. You can insult my reads. You can insult my logic. But you know what you don't do? You sure as fuck don't trivialize an illness I was born with, and can cite the existence of in plenty of other places, as me abusing my honor. I get stomach acid piped up my throat daily, and I've been having that happen since the day I was born. Some days are easier, some days are harder. This past week has been a flurry of "harder" ones. Go google "Gastric reflux" and then go sit in the corner and feel like shit until you apologize.

[The Goodfather]

Cabd(overactivity first 6 pages, and then suddenly disappearing. Could just actually be sick. Could be avoiding the spotlight)

Listen up asshole, because I'm only gonna tell you this once.

Mafia is a game. You can insult my play. You can insult my reads. You can insult my logic. But you know what you don't do? You sure as fuck don't trivialize an illness I was born with, and can cite the existence of in plenty of other places, as me abusing my honor. I get stomach acid piped up my throat daily, and I've been having that happen since the day I was born. Some days are easier, some days are harder. This past week has been a flurry of "harder" ones. Go google "Gastric reflux" and then go sit in the corner and feel like shit until you apologize.

Up until I read the last line, i was prepared to apologize.
1) I have ever played with you before, so I would have no reason or occasion to recall your illness.

2)I never said anything about your honor, but the way you responded makes me think that you have none, or more likely, thatyou are scum.


Everyones got something to bitch about in their life, the difference is not everyone uses it as a crutch. Take a tums or some fucking alka seltzer. No need to rip off my head for an observation that your activity has decreased substantially. And if you really wanted an apology, you might try in the future to be less of a dickhead

[Idiotking]

Well that escalated quickly. Calm down, guys.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Cabd(overactivity first 6 pages, and then suddenly disappearing. Could just actually be sick. Could be avoiding the spotlight)

Listen up asshole, because I'm only gonna tell you this once.

Mafia is a game. You can insult my play. You can insult my reads. You can insult my logic. But you know what you don't do? You sure as fuck don't trivialize an illness I was born with, and can cite the existence of in plenty of other places, as me abusing my honor. I get stomach acid piped up my throat daily, and I've been having that happen since the day I was born. Some days are easier, some days are harder. This past week has been a flurry of "harder" ones. Go google "Gastric reflux" and then go sit in the corner and feel like shit until you apologize.

Up until I read the last line, i was prepared to apologize.
1) I have ever played with you before, so I would have no reason or occasion to recall your illness.

2)I never said anything about your honor, but the way you responded makes me think that you have none, or more likely, thatyou are scum.


Everyones got something to bitch about in their life, the difference is not everyone uses it as a crutch. Take a tums or some fucking alka seltzer. No need to rip off my head for an observation that your activity has decreased substantially. And if you really wanted an apology, you might try in the future to be less of a dickhead

this is completely irrelevant from the game:

sit the fuck down.

[Selkies]

In fact, selkies is my biggest scum read: spamming pages 1-6. Conversations between hydra heads like in the quote above, orcinus slipping and posting as himself several times, seeming to look for easy lynches, etc...

How is conversing between hydra heads scummy?

How is hydra slipping scummy?

How are we looking for easy lynches?

What is etc?

[The Goodfather]

In fact, selkies is my biggest scum read: spamming pages 1-6. Conversations between hydra heads like in the quote above, orcinus slipping and posting as himself several times, seeming to look for easy lynches, etc...

How is conversing between hydra heads scummy?

Its spam. I have never been in a hydra, but i've read that the heads of hydras can communicate with one another outside the game thread. If that is the case with you, then head to head conversations between hydra are literally spamming the thread with fluff. Scummy

How is hydra slipping scummy?

Yet again, its spam. Especially if you and your other head can talk to one another outside the thread. I don't know for sure that this is the case, but as this is my current understanding of how hydra's operate, it seems scummy to do these things. Correct me if I am wrong, and i will reconsider my read on you. @mod, can you clarify how hydras work in this game. Do they talk to one another off thread, maybe in a qt or pms, or is their only means of communication in the game thread itself?

How are we looking for easy lynches?

What is etc?

this is what I am talking about I don't know which head i'm talking to, but you may say you are looking for scum on easy lynch wagons, but you may just be looking for a convenient scapegoat to lynch dp1.

In regards to Selkies, pointing out who might be an easy lynch isn't good for the town. Even if you are town, you're giving information to uncreative scum about who would be a good target to pile on, and if enough people declare so-and-so to be an easy lynch, people are going to start seeing scum in them just because people are lazy

I'm not the head who made the observation out loud, but in many games players are familiar enough with each other to know who are likely lynchbait, who are bus-candidates if they are scum, etc. One of the places I look for scum is on the "easy lynch" wagons.

[Selkies]

I am the head who made the post you're pointing an arrow at. Our posting style are pretty distinct, so I think your case, if that's what you're calling it is pretty meh.

When I saw your earlier post, I thought that the post itself wasn't too bad, but the timing and the momentum look like where I would probably jump on a wagon if I were scum.

This last post, though, that actually comes off kinda scummy to me. I've been kinda tracking who complains about my posting content and quantity in games over time, and it is not a for sure tell, but the alignments are becoming statistically significant.

Zmuffin, you asked who is in my scumpile. When you asked me, I had concerns about Aronis. I still do. And I'll add Goodfather to the pile.

[Selkies]

Orcinus is approaching you today pretty much the way he approached forming a read on me in NY 165.

Can you describe Orc's playstyle for me?

His style is volatile and reaction-generating. He sometimes tunnels pretty heavily.

Scum-Mara called Orcinus a "rage child" in the AMoL scum QT iirc. I don't think that's accurate, but it may feel that way when he's tunneling someone.