The Fall of Gondolin Mafia: Game Over (The Tale of Gondolin)

[Shadoweh]

That was pretty disappointing. The flavor also pointed out his 'strange innocence'. If mafia were confused about it though I don't think they'd ask first thing in front of everyone.

So Jacob, I couldn't help but notice you didn't give your body to the cause. Wheere were you 'protecting' last night?

[shos]

Look at the bright side: we lost a VT and an inherently-bad town role.

I'm quite surprised by the nightkill, I have to say.

so what now? :/

[Espeonage]

I'd say that he was bulletproof rather than any sort of investigation shenanigans.

[Natirasha]

I'd say that he was bulletproof rather than any sort of investigation shenanigans.

?

And I had 6:10 odds on chamber dying.

[shos]

VOTE: Actiondan

[sirdanilot]

Quick question. I am so confused about the colouring here. Did we lynch mafia yesterday or was that some sort of town Godfather? Because it says Gondolin <rolename>.

VOTE: Espeonage

idk

Scum slip?

I thought we lynched mafia but now I'm not sure.

Scum slip too?

[shos]

how are these slips?

[Shadoweh]

We don't have any reason to think he was lying though, he's flipped town now. If he said he was Cop Godfather Jesus then he was Cop Godfather Jesus. Unless one of you checked under his back to see his full flip there's no reason to assume otherwise. Talking about the flip itself is boring anyways, shos why did you call Aegor getting people to vote him pushing for his mislynch?

[sirdanilot]

They dont have gondolin in their role pm?

[shos]

@shadow: at the time there really weren't people on his wagon at all. getting people to vote him would make a nolynch much more likely. I think I wasn't the first to call that.

[ActionDan]

The above opinion is dumb

[ActionDan]

VOTE: tierce[quote][/quote]

[shos]

please explain.

[sirdanilot]

ABR who is your scum now

[Tierce]

VOTE: Cogito Ergo Sum

Hai, fellow Apple!

[Shadoweh]

Yeah, that's a pretty misguided opinion but it's more exasperating then anything. Mrr.
I kinda still want to lynch TIP actually, I still have no idea why his wagon died instead of getting run over by Jacob escapees, and he's clearly here and contributing as much as he was yesterday.. This feels really lethargic actually, like did everyone forget what they wanted to do yesterday besides jump onto the pain train?

Cut: This isn't RVS v.2 please, what the hell does that mean?

[Tierce]

Cut: This isn't RVS v.2 please, what the hell does that mean?

chamber's dead.

Wait, that wasn't any less cryptic, was it?~

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

You think the scum team should have nightkilled you instead, Tierce?

[Tierce]

Fairly sure that I wasn't in any danger of being NKd with how Yesterday turned out.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Okay. Then who? The tunneling Ur-Quan?

[Tierce]

chamber attempted to flip a wagon from Aegor to me. I'm Town, and while he probably wouldn't have lynched me, it would be some amazing noise for scum to flourish in Today. Elscouta would have made a much better alternative--quiet one, logical, not that likely to be protected if JacobSavage is Town.

The kill makes sense coming from you.

[sirdanilot]

Guys we can still lynch esp today surely?

[SpyreX]

Unvote, Vote: Esp

I thought yesterday was a scum flip too. I saw godfather, blocked everything else out. I'm pretty sure that as much as OMG SCUM FOUND some people are trying to pull that's going to be a rabbit hole that isn't going to be very useful.

Chamber kill yesterday means *gasp* there's some older folk in the scum. I'm not ~meta~ but I don't think chamber got swiped on simple merits from yesterday.

More importantly and this is going to take some time:

At least one major wagon yesterday was on scum.

That ebb and flow and the inability for anything to really push through until the deadline looming power dive means ~something~ was stopping the others from going through.

Its gonna take me time I dont have in spades to get there but if someone enterprising would like to setup the VCA I think we can actually pull some delicious nuggets from it.

[shos]

Yeah, that's a pretty misguided opinion but it's more exasperating then anything. Mrr.
I kinda still want to lynch TIP actually, I still have no idea why his wagon died instead of getting run over by Jacob escapees, and he's clearly here and contributing as much as he was yesterday.. This feels really lethargic actually, like did everyone forget what they wanted to do yesterday besides jump onto the pain train?

Cut: This isn't RVS v.2 please, what the hell does that mean?

That first sentence in combination with my earlier weak read on him makes me thing Shadow is town.
I think that the TIP wagon evaporated because deadline was really pushing, and it caused people to jump to more viable wagons, which is a correct line of thought. I never understood why the TIP wagon formed anyway, though, so I'll be glad if you explain it to me.

Also this is definitely not RVS V2.0; not at all. ActionDan was my preferred vote up to the place where Aegor started being stupid, and the flip & NK didn't do much to change that; his posts really kept sucking, so I'm back to that read. remind me later to check out again about Natirasha.

Fairly sure that I wasn't in any danger of being NKd with how Yesterday turned out.

elaborate please? there really wasn't any special person who was likely to be killed instead of you, or was there? who would you kill if you were scum 'with how Yesterday turned out'?...

(also any reason you capitalized the Y in yesterday?)

nvm you capitalize T later too in Today you jsut do that..

Okay. Then who? The tunneling Ur-Quan?

can you answer this too?

chamber attempted to flip a wagon from Aegor to me. I'm Town, and while he probably wouldn't have lynched me, it would be some amazing noise for scum to flourish in Today. Elscouta would have made a much better alternative--quiet one, logical, not that likely to be protected if JacobSavage is Town.

The kill makes sense coming from you.

I agree the Elscouta would have made a very good(for scum) NK. but that'd mean he'd be probably protected.
What we learn from this is that scum targetted chamber - a wide spread townread. that means that they prefer doing that that hunting power roles - meaning that they have no clue about it. So any PR should keep under the radar and make sure scum don't get it.
either that or scum don't

care

to PRhunt - meaning they have powers that let them know about our powers or block them. -->for analysis later in the game.

Guys we can still lynch esp today surely?

why? you look like a good target yourself

[ActionDan]

This case on Aegor is pretty good.

Chamber, Your vote is still on Tierce. Move it for fuck sake..

I had words for Shadoweh and can't recall them. It'll come to me.

ehhh.

Tierce should still be lynched first.

I'll buy whatever you're selling.

For now.

Vote: Tierce

Both of these are probably town