The Fall of Gondolin Mafia: Game Over (The Tale of Gondolin)

[sirdanilot]

I really don't see why Tip would be scum. It all just looks like play style to me.

Hrmf. You lured me into a meta analysis, and I somewhat agree (on a side note, your wiki is quite out of date, TIP). And now i'm not even sure if I want to lynch you anymore because it would be so good for sirscumilot to let another TIP wagon develop.

That's fucking stupid. Okay, assume I am scum and TIP is town. Then why did I not jump on the TIP wagon to get it lynched, scum scum scum DIE?
Okay assume we are both scum. OH WAIT that is a fucking stupid unsubstantiated assumption. But go ahead and look at me-tip scum pair if you so please.

Which means I'm a sad panda. I don't feel like lynching Tierce just because she was a counterwagon to someone I'm not even sure was town. Jacob has still a bit of time on its "doctor gets out of lynch free card", Natirasha might as well be a TIP clone, Esp lynch is meh, and I still don't have any clue about why people are suspecting CES.

Esp lynch is PERFECT, it is not 'meh'.
CES is suspicious because of the pretending Nat was active lurking thing we discussed towards the end of day 1. I would go for CES wagon part deux. Scum didn't want him lynched yesterday, sadly.

[JacobSavage]

I was refering to myself in "easily lynchable townie".

[Albert B. Rampage]

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This one, obviously?

I know, but why would anyone think that I was part of that?

[Espeonage]

sirdan and TIP are my preferred lynches. Happy to stick my support elsewhere should someone present something that looks tasty.

[shos]

First point: MafiaSSK jump. This is mostly because I got a good read from SSK from his response to that superfast wagon to him, but TIP's vote and response just felt like he was trying to push it over the edge. The argument against SSK was based on him lurking but posting in other games, which TIP kept pressing after his V/LA was announced. The 'CES vote out of nowhere' is an unfair argument, SSK was gone for 6 days and didn't have a major scumread before then, why wouldn't he have a new outlook after rereading?

Second point: Everything After Everyone Ignored The SSK Case. Or as I would call it, acting like this is a TV show he's watching for his amusement. His response to being run up was to vote his biggest town read for funsies for god's sake. I didn't want to make a big deal out of this before giving him a chance to post something constructive today but considering his opening post today I am not imagining there'll be much more to see in the future.

Also the second remark wasn't directed at you, but I don't think ADan sucks this game.

could you elaborate with links/reexplain your points? I don't seem to understand what is it you're trying to say.

[shos]

elscouta's 985:
death godfather actually sounds like a really viable option, I have to say.
NKA is useless without more flips etc.

my gut is calling me to vote CES; his posts don't sound like they have town intention behind them, and his votes fit with what scum might do in my opinion.

I wanna policy lynch ABR for 990.

I like shadow.

PV is even in this game? *checks activity overview* *sigh* people this is a BaM game you need to be more active

[shos]

sirdan needs to either shut up or be vigged.

@elscouta:
how is that role *good* for town? it is a vig that is undetectable and lays blame on other people. sacrifice a townie to get the alignment of another? why would I want that? that's like the uberweak version of the weak modifier.
my point against AD is not a 'case' per se, rather, it is...well, just read his ISO. it's very short, I promise, and its content is just about as reading a phonebook's cover.
sorta policy lynch, it seems, but it has the extra part of gut and active lurking, and perhaps wagon hopping but now I'm jsut throwing it into the air and I might be wrong.

[sirdanilot]

sirdan and TIP are my preferred lynches. Happy to stick my support elsewhere should someone present something that looks tasty.

Got it ass backwards scummyboy

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

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This one, obviously?

I know, but why would anyone think that I was part of that?

Because it's the sort of ridiculous thing you might go for?

[Shadoweh]

I don't think it would be productive to quote "hahaha" 14 times. If you can't see what I'm talking about through the iso button then I have no idea what would get it through to you.
SirDannyboy isn't vigbait (besides, the vig is kind of dead) and his reasoning for voting CES is better then your policy lynch cases anyways.

[Natirasha]

Are we seriously moving on a Death Godfather? Like, seriously?

[Plum]

But when Tuor had lived thus in solitude as an outlaw for four years, Ulmo set it in his heart to depart from the land of his fathers, for he had chosen Tuor as the instrument of his designs; and leaving once more the caves of Androth he went westwards across Dor-lómin, and found Annon-in-Gelydh, the Gate of the Noldor, which the people of Turgon built when they dwelt in Nevrast long years before. Thence a dark tunnel led beneath the mountains, and issued into Cirith Ninniach, the Rainbow Cleft, through which a turbulent water ran towards the western sea. Thus it was that Tuor's flight from Hithlum was marked by neither Man nor Orc, and no knowledge of it came to the ears of Morgoth.

VOTE COUNT 2:2

ActionDan

- 1 - shos

Espeonage

- 2 - sirdanilot, SpyreX

Tierce

- 1 - ActionDan

Cogito Ergo Sum

- 1 - Tierce

Natirasha

- 1 - TheIrishPope

TheIrishPope

- 1 - Cogito Ergo Sum

Not voting (9)

: JacobSavage, Natirasha, MafiaSSK, Espeonage, Albert B. Rampage, Desperado, PeregrineV, Shadoweh, Elscouta

With 16 players alive it takes

9

votes to lynch.
Deadline is in (expired on 2014-02-05 00:00:01)

Please note: Unlike

The Children of Húrin Mafia

the major intent of this game is not Bastardry. This game will not feature Cults, Survivors, mid-game alignment changes, direct lies to players, or Moderator meddling in role/alignment assignment. Other subversive elements may exist. There is no guarantee against other elements that may be considered Bastard.

[shos]

Shadow, im on phone a lot, and therefore a spoilered load of posts hahaha is actually helping me.

Nat, that the best content you got?

[TheIrishPope]

sirdan and TIP are my preferred lynches. Happy to stick my support elsewhere should someone present something that looks tasty.

Still stuck in D1 huh?

[Natirasha]

Nat, that the best content you got?

Yup.

[sirdanilot]

Please note: Unlike The Children of Húrin Mafia the major intent of this game is not Bastardry. This game will not feature Cults, Survivors, mid-game alignment changes, direct lies to players, or Moderator meddling in role/alignment assignment. Other subversive elements may exist. There is no guarantee against other elements that may be considered Bastard.

I.e. HE WASNT MAFIA. The mod couldn't have said it clearer. Aegor was town.

Hey guys Esp is the leading wagon, go vote ESP ! Scummyboys, perfect chance to bus your buddy right here ! Town, perfect chance to lynch Scum !

[Espeonage]

The only reason I'm not yelling at you to shut the fuck up and actually do something useful is because 1. You're not going to listen and 2. I'd actually rather work with the rest of the town to get something done.

On that note, I'm probs going to jump on one of those vanity wagons soon.

[sirdanilot]

^ Who are you talking to, scummyboy?

[Espeonage]

You

[sirdanilot]

So? I don't care. Why would I want scum to yell at me to shut the fuck up? What good does that for the town (or scum for that matter)?

[sirdanilot]

[quoteOn that note, I'm probs going to jump on one of those vanity wagons soon.[/quote]
Yeah do that scummyboy. Goood scum.

[Espeonage]

If I pray to DGB will I get a gun to Daykill sirdan with?

[Elscouta]

I really don't see why Tip would be scum. It all just looks like play style to me.

Hrmf. You lured me into a meta analysis, and I somewhat agree (on a side note, your wiki is quite out of date, TIP). And now i'm not even sure if I want to lynch you anymore because it would be so good for sirscumilot to let another TIP wagon develop.

That's fucking stupid. Okay, assume I am scum and TIP is town. Then why did I not jump on the TIP wagon to get it lynched, scum scum scum DIE?
Okay assume we are both scum. OH WAIT that is a fucking stupid unsubstantiated assumption. But go ahead and look at me-tip scum pair if you so please.

You probably misread my post.

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Please note: Unlike

The Children of Húrin Mafia

the major intent of this game is not Bastardry. This game will not feature Cults, Survivors, mid-game alignment changes, direct lies to players, or Moderator meddling in role/alignment assignment. Other subversive elements may exist. There is no guarantee against other elements that may be considered Bastard.

I'm extremely surprised Plum decided to quote this. But posted with this timing, it really sounds like "There is no Death Godfather in this game, please don't discuss that". Anyways, it most likely does no good to discuss what exactly Aegor was.

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A wagon on a lurker (in order of preference: ABR -> ActionDan -> PV) is tempting.

[Albert B. Rampage]

What is a death godfather? How do you expect me to come up with reads when the Day 1 flip is of unknown alignment?

[Albert B. Rampage]

We're just lynching in the blind and we don't even know whether we're winning or losing.