Touhou: Mafia in the Land of Fantasy (Game Over)

[GoodCop_BadCop]

Cabd is literally avoiding me now, more the reason to get on this wagon and lynch him.

Not now sakura. This is potentially game state breaking.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

In fact I'm avoiding causing any more damage, and not posting anything else until I hear from gif, sorry.

[Nachomamma8]

Gif isn't online so I don't feel safe telling what he told me until I can talk to him.

What does this have to do with anything?

[Nachomamma8]

And why does this mean we can't talk about how your slot still looks like shit?

[GoodCop_BadCop]

Gif isn't online so I don't feel safe telling what he told me until I can talk to him.

What does this have to do with anything?

I'm not answering this question.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

And why does this mean we can't talk about how your slot still looks like shit?

Okay nacho, let's play then. Why does my slot look like shit?

[Varsoon]

BECAUSE IT STINKS AND IS BROWN
HAHAHA

[GoodCop_BadCop]

Gif is online, talking. Hold please.

[Nachomamma8]

but why don't you want to explore teriyaki's probably correct read on rememory?

Spayhalf aside, I have a crackpot theory that is probably down a rabbit hole on why not to; that I won't be elaborating on until it's relevant if it ever does become so.

I'm kind of already itching to townblock and so is spayhalf.

And given she's no longer dictating my pace nor my timing, I'm cool with talking townreads earlier than she was.

T {the inno child; kaze; gaiden; borkmolliejiffy}
LT {tsukasa}

Here are two instances of you defending flipped scum in a weird way.
Ffery didn't look mildly town while she was in the slot, and yet you are trying to form this magic wonderland where she's town because she replaced out (still waiting for that one to be replaced). You are currently trying to get Muffin the strong town player lynched based on an incredibly sketchy guilty crumb.

Are you really surprised I'm skeptical of you?

[pieguyn]

I don't find Muffin's dismissive tone as anything particularly scummy. He pointed out that it's fairly obvious there was no guilty result (yes) and claimed.

i think you misinterpreted my point. the last sentence isn't what's really wrong there, although it is part of it

the second sentence is the problem. he's trying to subtly introduce the notion of investigating bubba being a viable move. by saying he'd investigate bubba like that, he's indirectly insinuating others would be likely to do the same thing. this is a manipulative tactic as opposde to just stating it directly

compare to this post in marketplace:

PV's issue with me came from something i said about seanald's advertising choice (austerity measures) and why it might have just been a move by dumb town rather than scum. he was cautious of this because a game we'd just finished, i was deliberately ignoring his points against my scum buddy and trying to make it seem like he didn't really have a case at all. he thought i was doing the same thing here for a scum buddy. that was... literally the entire reason PV was paranoid about me, and after a while he gave it up and simply declared a igmeou iirc. so the "similarity" he noticed isn't even really a similarity because seanald was town, lol.

here he says that PeregrineV's paranoia of him was unfounded, but instead of being direct about it, he slides it in at the end of the paragraph. he's indirectly addressing the point by retelling the story of PV's paranoia of him and insinuating it's not the same thing instead of just saying "it's wrong this is why". this is the same tactic

i'll never forget this post because it gave me really icky vibes and i didn't pursue it. that above post is doing the exact same thing =.=

I would also use both two shot trackers immediately. Why do you make the statement about GiF loving being misleading as a moderator? What games are you thinking of?

AA:MFA there was both a godfather and a ninja in the game (incidentally there was a tracker but it was mafia). the SK also had a 1-shot dayvig and could force a surprise LYLO although he said after the game this was unintentional
(offsite) Mistakes uPick there was a scum bus driver that was allowed to self target and it ended up fucking everybody over because he didn't tell the cop his target changed
this game bc there were 2 encryptors including one that was town (me)
so GIF is obviously the type of moderator who has no problem with putting misleading stuff like this in his games. I wouldn't put it past him to put a ninja without a tracker

I don't get your point re: 2975.

his statement about the pm being delayed is a lie and is intended to appeal to what he thought at the time was my situation (not receiving a PM yet)

nacho i'll be blunt. you know how good of a scum player zmuffin is. did it ever occur to you this is exactly why? he's dissipating the wagon on him by making everyone run around in circles. this is scum tactic 101 and it's what he's doing here. why the fuck are people so adverse to lynching a PR that used all its shots already? for fuck sake. if he's town then we lynched someone who's essentially vanilla and could easily fuck us over if scum. add to that that he's made some really sketchy reactions already and i don't see why this lynch hasn't gone through yet. unless you're scum defending him because you know your team will get fucked if he gets lynched, that'd explain a lot

[Sakura Hana]

@pieguyn: What's your opinion on GCBC?

[pieguyn]

i just told you you stole my read T_T
town. the gaiden lynch was really easy and gaiden only had 1 more vote than varsoon at deadline iirc. if he was scum there's no way he'd let the encryptor get lynched that easily, and he would have no problem averting the lynch

[Sakura Hana]

It didnt seem to me he let him get lynched easily, he fought for a Varsoon lynch until the end?

[pieguyn]

wow really. my memory must be off

either way if there were like any scum at all on gaiden i'm p sure they would have been fine with switching over to varsoon. i still feel the gaiden lynch was too easy. it could be that special case where all the scum are on the counterwagon and the scum wagon is entirely town driven, but i'm not sure atm

[GoodCop_BadCop]

Okay, heard back from gif, got permission.

I know

for a fact

that nacho was in fact in the hydra that he replaced. I don't know who the other head was, though.

Mod slipped when talking to me about ffery replacing out and me asking who I could have half-head replace in.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

So this kind of makes me wonder...

A: Why nacho directly lied about that if he's town.

B: Why nacho didn't break up the mollie-ffery fight if he's town.

[Sakura Hana]

So do you think nacho's fake claiming motivator?

[Kagami]

Dan confirmed motivator exists and can prob confirm flavor.

It

is

possible that the motivator is scum and motivated Dan knowing the extra shot was useless anyway, but this seems kind of unlikely.

[Sakura Hana]

wow really. my memory must be off

either way if there were like any scum at all on gaiden i'm p sure they would have been fine with switching over to varsoon. i still feel the gaiden lynch was too easy. it could be that special case where all the scum are on the counterwagon and the scum wagon is entirely town driven, but i'm not sure atm

ftr i read pages: 95, 96, 97 Look which wagon is GCBC on and pushing, obv the counter lynch to Gaiden. Feel free to revisit them or if i missed something in the pages i haven't read feel free to point it out to me.

[pieguyn]

aa:mfa had a mafia godfather jailkeeper

essentially supposed to be an otherwise town role that's mafia just to fuck with people

i could see a mafia motivator here for that same reason

[Sakura Hana]

Well then I'll take the motivator claim with a grain of salt then. And i dont think the AA:MFA godfather jailkeeper was just to fuck with people, it was esentially a roleblocker for scum or a way to protect scum from the SK maybe.

[pieguyn]

tell me why you would ever think someone who claimed JK and GOT INVESTIGATED AS TOWN would be scum

that role was there entirely to fuck up any way of clearing people via roles. mafia motivator would accomplish the same thing here

[Sakura Hana]

tell me why you would ever think someone who claimed JK and GOT INVESTIGATED AS TOWN would be scum

That works if they are ever investigated, i thought jailkeeper was an usual claim for a scum roleblocker anyway.

[ActionDan]

ftr it was the sound of music that motivated. which fits with the flavor claimed

[Sakura Hana]

I have a few theories flying around but i wanna wait till everyone else claims if possible, if not then I guess i could throw those theories around.
For now

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