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Post Post #3375 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:11 am

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Vanilla cop wouldn't be too shabby. Sakura has a nice parasol you could borrow...
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Post Post #3376 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:12 am

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Nacho this was my theory:
In post 3279, Sakura Hana wrote:hmm nvm im confident saying this now then.

I was thinking "If nacho was scum motivator wouldn't he motivate his scum partners?" then i remembered the double kill N1, it's quite possible Nacho didn't motivate lush but CoK instead, unless there's something i missed and Lush hinted to being motivated?
But after the posts Kagami showed me is quite unlikely.

Also @Everyone: what do you think about GCBC's stance at the end of Day 1 with the information that Cabd considers daychat an OP power for scum.
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Post Post #3377 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:15 am

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In post 3373, Nachomamma8 wrote:So, Muffin flips town, you lynch Cabd?
Why do you think Muffin is scum?
We think Lush investigated him. That's pretty much it.

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Post Post #3378 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:15 am

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Also i'm guessing MC is hated because he stole something from Remi, on FG's Touhou Upick, Remi and Flandre were Hated (until i turned off the sun).
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Post Post #3379 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:17 am

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In post 3378, Sakura Hana wrote:Also i'm guessing MC is hated because he stole something from Remi, on FG's Touhou Upick, Remi and Flandre were Hated (until i turned off the sun).
In case it wasn't clear from the wording, we aren't hated anymore. It was just for D2.

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Post Post #3380 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:17 am

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In post 3374, ActionDan wrote:
##vote Messiah Complex


K. Time to lynch actual scum.
Go on...

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Post Post #3381 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:18 am

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In post 3373, Nachomamma8 wrote:So, Muffin flips town, you lynch Cabd?
Why do you think Muffin is scum?
If he weren't the only tracker, we'd have lynch him a while ago on the basis of what seems like the most likely result of Lush's investigation. I have a hard time imagining that Lush is such a poor cop that he completely failed to reveal his results in any discernable form before the end of the day.

What does make sense, though, is that lush was roleblocked or a framing occured. Blocked makes a lot of sense.

In any case, muffin is certainly not a cleared townie. At best he's just someone who hasn't been guiltied. Your role alone is evidence enough to suggest that the tracker-ninja relationship is not a reliable means of clearing a player.
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Post Post #3382 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:21 am

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Crazy theory #3

Scum might have have a PGO who serene visited night 1, which would make nacho's compulsive visitation make sense
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Post Post #3383 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:23 am

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In post 3381, Kagami wrote:
In post 3373, Nachomamma8 wrote:So, Muffin flips town, you lynch Cabd?
Why do you think Muffin is scum?
If he weren't the only tracker, we'd have lynch him a while ago on the basis of what seems like the most likely result of Lush's investigation. I have a hard time imagining that Lush is such a poor cop that he completely failed to reveal his results in any discernable form before the end of the day.

What does make sense, though, is that lush was roleblocked or a framing occured. Blocked makes a lot of sense.

In any case, muffin is certainly not a cleared townie. At best he's just someone who hasn't been guiltied.
Your role alone is evidence enough to suggest that the tracker-ninja relationship is not a reliable means of clearing a player.
I 1000% agree with this statement.
I have trouble seeing a cop, especially those three, unvote their guilty and allow another guilty lynch to die over their guilty result.
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Post Post #3384 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:24 am

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Not crazy theory:

Bubba is an X-shot PGO who serene obviously would have rolecopped night 1.
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Post Post #3385 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:25 am

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In post 3380, Messiah Complex wrote:
In post 3374, ActionDan wrote:
##vote Messiah Complex


K. Time to lynch actual scum.
Go on...

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Your role doesn't actually do anything useful. at all. Everyone else has decent utility (or else claimed VT). I can see your role being a scum one that steals shit and acts like a weak rolecop + lets you do something with what you steal.

2ndly I never got any town vibes from you D1 or D2.
I'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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Post Post #3386 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:25 am

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In post 3383, Nachomamma8 wrote:I have trouble seeing a cop, especially those three, unvote their guilty and allow another guilty lynch to die over their guilty result.
Why? They wanted to get another investigation in before claiming and didn't expect to die after surviving N1 + the existence of a living mason.

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Post Post #3387 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:27 am

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In post 3385, ActionDan wrote:
In post 3380, Messiah Complex wrote:
In post 3374, ActionDan wrote:
##vote Messiah Complex


K. Time to lynch actual scum.
Go on...

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Your role doesn't actually do anything useful. at all. Everyone else has decent utility (or else claimed VT). I can see your role being a scum one that steals shit and acts like a weak rolecop + lets you do something with what you steal.

2ndly I never got any town vibes from you D1 or D2.
Yeah, that one-shot oracle is way more useful than a vanilla cop/self confirming fruit vendor.

Fucking seriously?

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Post Post #3388 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:28 am

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In post 3387, Messiah Complex wrote:vanilla cop
nice try
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Post Post #3389 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:28 am

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And man, that 1-Shot bomb claim; amazing utility!

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Post Post #3390 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:28 am

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In post 3386, Messiah Complex wrote:
In post 3383, Nachomamma8 wrote:I have trouble seeing a cop, especially those three, unvote their guilty and allow another guilty lynch to die over their guilty result.
Why? They wanted to get another investigation in before claiming and didn't expect to die after surviving N1 + the existence of a living mason.

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And yet that surviving mason wasn't killed N1.
The possibility of them dying was clearly there, and I don't think mollie would be willing to risk Muffin surviving and coasting through the whole game after she caught him.
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Post Post #3391 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:28 am

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Nice try what? We stole from the cop and we got an item; we stole from a claimed VT and he "didn't have anything worth stealing."

What do you suppose that means?

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Post Post #3392 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:29 am

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In post 3390, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 3386, Messiah Complex wrote:
In post 3383, Nachomamma8 wrote:I have trouble seeing a cop, especially those three, unvote their guilty and allow another guilty lynch to die over their guilty result.
Why? They wanted to get another investigation in before claiming and didn't expect to die after surviving N1 + the existence of a living mason.

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And yet that surviving mason wasn't killed N1.
The possibility of them dying was clearly there, and I don't think mollie would be willing to risk Muffin surviving and coasting through the whole game after she caught him.
Um...hello!!! Muffin was just at L-1. They CLEARLY did enough to implicate Muffin in the event of their death.

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Post Post #3393 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:29 am

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Like I can't believe you just said that with a straight face given the day's events.

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Post Post #3394 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:30 am

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In post 3393, Messiah Complex wrote:Like I can't believe you just said that with a straight face given the day's events.

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Why do the days events matter?
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Post Post #3395 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:31 am

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the fact you are assuming you're a vanilla cop when there is insufficient evidence to make that conclusion. you are a role that may or may not steal shit from certain players.
I'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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Post Post #3396 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:31 am

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Muffin is at L-1 because CABD pointed out the guilty crumbs; if that hadn't happened, I highly doubt Muffin would be at L-1 at any point today.
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Post Post #3397 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:33 am

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In post 3396, Nachomamma8 wrote:Muffin is at L-1 because CABD pointed out the guilty crumbs; if that hadn't happened, I highly doubt Muffin would be at L-1 at any point today.
You're dreaming. I didn't need cabd's help to see that Lush crumbed a guilty on him. I doubt Kagami or anyone else did either.

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Post Post #3398 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:34 am

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In post 3395, ActionDan wrote:the fact you are assuming you're a vanilla cop when there is insufficient evidence to make that conclusion. you are a role that may or may not steal shit from certain players.
No, we're a role that steals shit and certain players might not have anything worth stealing.

There's no other interpretation.

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Post Post #3399 (ISO) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:35 am

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I got that. that doesn't mean you'll steal shit from all PRS or not steal anything from all VTs
I'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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