Xenosaga Mafia (Game Over)

[ActionDan]

Let's not harass poor Flandre just yet.

[Varsoon]

Woah, Cephrir is in this game?
anyway
still sick
whadayagonnado?

[Metal Sonic]

And your first votes were on both your neighbors? Why happened to love thy neighbor? Apparently you don't have the generous spirit, so I'm being proactive in kicking you out.

I was trying to find out which one of you two was likely to be scum (if either?), you just made it easy for me.

I was waiting to see which one of you two gave me a scum read(if either?), and you just came knocking on my doorstep

[ActionDan]

FOS: MS

[Angry Frat BROs]

Fine, fine, we can lynch MS after Cephrir.

I think MS is just being a silly though.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Oh right, zMuffin is still hillariously scum. Anyone want to quicklynch that?

[Metal Sonic]

Honestly I have no case on Venmar except lots of OMGUS

Admitting that right now >.>

[Angry Frat BROs]

K so MS is still probably just a dummy.

Mastin is still town as hell.

[ActionDan]

Oh right, zMuffin is still hillariously scum. Anyone want to quicklynch that?

I agree with this statement

[Venmar]

Honestly I have no case on Venmar except lots of OMGUS

Admitting that right now >.>

Is it a coincidence that you admit this only after two people call you scummy for it?

[Kazekirimaru]

goddamnit.

Ok. moving you to leaning town.

but I think you're wrong about pieguyn.

Mind telling me about pie for a sec? I'm not very good at reading him, and I don't see how the supposed RQ makes him town.

Anyway, I was going to post that I really hope this moronic rolefishing discussion is over. @Skull: Claiming any sort of negative utility passive role (Hated, Miller, etc.) is standard. This permits the town to decide whether a policy lynch would be appropriate and simply makes the town aware of critical info. You pushed for MORE information than was provided. We were told that Orc is hated. That is all. You were fishing for more info about the role, when Orc told us only what we needed to know. He made the right play; you rolefished needlessly. If Orc had actually told us everything about his role, there would have been no need for you to ask any questions about it. The fact that answers to your questions would have required that more information be provided by definition means you were rolefishing.

Hm. Am I not taking this as seriously as I should be? Because I'm not feeling scummy intent behind Skull's questioning of Orci.

Man, I'm glad that I don't matter.
Wish I could emulate this in my scum-games.

Hi, Varsoon. Feeling better?

Got any reads?

Clearly Venmar likes bullshitting his neighborhoods. These are his first four posts in ISO. Obviously not random votes.

Wow. I feel a really defensive OMGUSy tone coming from you. Awkward.

Fuzzy

Fucking

Logic.

A step above Moonlogic.

Two factors, basically. First being laziness, the second being that I question the usefulness of doing so in the first place--second-hand meta is no substitute for first-hand experience.

Better than nothing, though. When you have to drive a nail, do you use your fists in place of a brick because it's no substitute for a proper hammer?

(*No, not really a scum bodyguard, as interesting a role as that'd be. Pie is likely scum fakeclaiming bodyguard.)

Why would scum fakeclaim a role expected to die before endgame?

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VOTE: Metal Sonic

[Varsoon]

Nope, still feel like poop.
A sweet girl that I play D&D with is going to come over and cook salmon for me. I dunno if she's just being kind or if she's into me. I know if I cooked salmon for someone who was sick, it'd be because I liked 'em a lot.
But, as mafia has proven, not everyone plays by my rules.

I want to say MS is town. At the very least, he always draws blanks from me. I think we should focus on other players, he's too easy a wagon for scum to be on regardless of his alignment.

[Venmar]

I think we should focus on other players, he's too easy a wagon for scum to be on regardless of his alignment.

Everything in this game is saying otherwise.

[Varsoon]

Not me

[Venmar]

There's two people on his wagon, prove to me that what you have said is true in any way.

[Varsoon]

You're reading my words wrong
it's okay
I'm not saying the people on his wagon are scum.
I'm saying that it'd be easy for scum to wagon him successfully.

[Venmar]

Oh, no we're just misunderstand each other. Forget me.

[sangres]

Ffery. stop being useless. Its making you hard to read.

Could you maybe do something a little more substantial than proclaim alignments in one-liner posts?

You and mastin are making me nervous for basically the same reason though Mastin does it with more words.

[ActionDan]

at least they are good reads (so far)

[Aegor]

Both mastin and muffin get added to my desired-vig list. I think mastin is scummier than zmuffin, which surprised me when I re-read. The attitude present in his earlier posts (before he started making unfounded assertions about alignment) in particular gave me good vibes. None of mastin's posts have been helpful in any way, nor is there any clear scumhunting intent behind them.

That MafiaSSK has managed to lurk this much is distressing. I am awaiting a kick-ass post after the prod.

Kaze's posts were really bad upon re-read. We are treated to walls like 262 and 363, which have tons of fluff and specious questions ("Why are you self-voting, Brian?"). None of the questions -- even the decent ones -- appear to lead to concrete reads or cases; the answers provided almost seem irrelevant to anything Kaze posts next. Then we have 298, which correctly calls mastin out, then a series of superficially townish yet insubstantial and useless rhetorical questions wavering. Hammy and forced, especially given the succinct nature of most of his other posts. Voting record is also spotty -- early Brian vote is fine, but then he votes mastin. Then he switches to pie with this terrible and useless post. No real explanation. I have no problem with wagon-hopping, but town players at least accompany or justify it with some sort of information acquisition from those wagons. That really has not happened, and Kaze has not scumhunted anywhere else either.

VOTE: Kaze

[Cephrir]

I am not responding to certain posts right now. This is me acknowledging that.

Aegor, why do you have zero trajectory on that Kaze vote.

[Kazekirimaru]

Both mastin and muffin get added to my desired-vig list. I think mastin is scummier than zmuffin, which surprised me when I re-read. The attitude present in his earlier posts (before he started making unfounded assertions about alignment) in particular gave me good vibes. None of mastin's posts have been helpful in any way, nor is there any clear scumhunting intent behind them.

That MafiaSSK has managed to lurk this much is distressing. I am awaiting a kick-ass post after the prod.

Kaze's posts were really bad upon re-read. We are treated to walls like 262 and 363, which have tons of fluff and specious questions ("Why are you self-voting, Brian?"). None of the questions -- even the decent ones -- appear to lead to concrete reads or cases; the answers provided almost seem irrelevant to anything Kaze posts next. Then we have 298, which correctly calls mastin out, then a series of superficially townish yet insubstantial and useless rhetorical questions wavering. Hammy and forced, especially given the succinct nature of most of his other posts. Voting record is also spotty -- early Brian vote is fine, but then he votes mastin. Then he switches to pie with this terrible and useless post. No real explanation. I have no problem with wagon-hopping, but town players at least accompany or justify it with some sort of information acquisition from those wagons. That really has not happened, and Kaze has not scumhunted anywhere else either.

VOTE: Kaze

This is our first game together, right?

You'll learn to love me.

[Aegor]

Aegor, why do you have zero trajectory on that Kaze vote.

Because there was zero trajectory on the vote.

[Varsoon]

Guys, this will be easy.

We each create a batch of players that we want to see lynched.
We all must do so independently.
We all post our lists from Highest priority to Lowest at -exactly the same time-.
Then we can PoE the lists and get a D1 on the least desired player/scum.
If scum doesn't have daytalk (they probably do), then it's perfect.
If scum has daytalk, then it'll be easy to see if they co-ordinated.
Eazy Pezy.
C'mon, winning gambit.

[borkjerfkin]

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