Newbie 1471: Italian Ice (Game Over!)

[Sakura Hana]

intent to vote/hammer on ED is present for the time being but may change pending replacement value/input.

Why you think ED is gonna replace? What do you think about him not wanting to be wagoned until claim?
I would also like to know where you're standing at atm.

[bjc]

I forgot that specific song until you did that though.

If you haven't heard that song live (Queen Rock Montreal) you're missing out.

[RayFrost]

I was talking about the robw replacement.

I don't really feel anything about him not wanting to claim: can come from scum or town motivations. Makes me leery but not much.

I'm standing at hana-town, ika-town, nacho-kindatown, bjc-somewhatscummy, robw-diescumbutreplacesoidk, ed-leaningscum, tearshift-null.

p-edit: I appreciate the recommendation, bjc.

[Sakura Hana]

Why you think ED is gonna replace?

Or did you mistook ED as the Rob guy who's actually getting replaced?

PEd. yeah thought so.

[RayFrost]

I didn't make a mistake so much as the wording was a bit ambiguous.

Anyway, I've been procrastinating reading this book a bit too much. I need to finish it within the next three or four hours.

RADIO SILENCE OR RIOT

also, much love to you all

especially the entire cast of queen

[emeraldemon]

Wait hold on. Why are we townreading sakura / abbott? I thought that slot was somewhere between null and scum.

@Sakura
Can you tell me what made you flip to ika scum?

Time is short, we're gonna have to lynch soonish. Post 670 from Tiershift actually felt townish to me, but maybe I am getting too caught up in it. I have always been OK with lynching Rob.

[Sakura Hana]

Can you tell me what made you flip to ika scum?

Read my ISO some things have caught up my attention after replacing in, but im willing to work with Nacho's read of him for the time being.

[RayFrost]

I never said abott was null / scum. I actually listed him as leaning town, and hana is townposting to me, so she's a towny read.

Ika's my strongest town read at the moment, hana is #2, and I'm getting a feeling about nacho. It might just be my haterade, though. huehue

[ika]

Spoiler: bjc iso

16: pregame stuff, means hes paying attention
17: just reaction to my randomness of a roleclaim
19: asking for opinions
26: random change of vote
28: semi-filler
35: bunch of one-liners
39: random counter vote
58: answer later
60: threatens emerald
84: more discussion
94: saying doesnt care who gets lynched (scum would prob be more caring about it, even early game)
108: answers questions
136: mini wall of stuff
141: more about just "random lynching"
195: some real life stuff, not much to note
197: the seocond part did seem odd for me at first becasue i have seen scums go "this person is misguided town" howevere his backs it up with other reaosning (ISO)
208 compares my playstly to apparently another person?
253: not feeling rob train yet
256: follows up on it
279: vote hops to me as presussure
280: wants more wagoning
283: this post is ehh, it goes either way. but it sound more like "you can target me but it would be wasting time" (im noting how he says any of them, this would include cop)
289: discussion with lmb and some talk about follow cop plan and stuff
322: scum read emerald for passivle play
354: names 3 scums and thinks one of them is scum
365: this was the big test overall for me in this, he sits at l-1 for a huge ass time with my intent to hammer. now this is on the 26th so it got burried away.
377: points out teirs lack substance
382: point out teris defelction and having that he has burden of proof
388: pointing out teirs lack of his own proof, as well as how he "thinks" he falsely thinks rayfrost is scum
406: pointout abbott (who has been replaced) vaildating his points but not unvoting.
430: bunch of one-liners but responds in manner
433: activity
435: points out teirs lazyness in doing stuff
455: respond toward my hamemr threat.
463: a few one liners, but some were quite informative, showing how ed is jsut kinda fluff posting.
473: noting emralds things again.
498: more at teir
502: showing teirs usless posting and telling him to elaborate on it
507: turing tables on tier whit givign him burden of proof
509: wtf post?
526: says self hamemr, but doesnt seem scum motivated imo, it seems like he more in the "im not gonna convince you mode so let me show you"
560: want to see emerald flip
575: complains to me aobut using vote as pressure and not to threaten lycnh
580: unsure about teir, but seems fixated on ed.
582: want to hear others on what traspired
603: ed lynch wanted
608: saying fuck it hammer me
647: points out tier
678: now goes at teir
688: pointing out his flaws
690: point out hes deflecting
699: does the activiy of him building a case (it may get old but its what i do, deal with it)
762: how he plays and prgession of playstlye

rest are not all that of importance

i was kinda strait to the poitn with each and more of what it was and maybe a little of what i thought of or what im interpreting it as. but to add on to this

he was at l-1 for quite some time with me intending to hammer, nobody objected to it apparently. if bjc is to flip town (for lynch, which is not going to have my vote after doing iso with a cleared mind of doing it) i would want to look at who had him at l-1 for so long. it would be a strong indicator that one or both scums were trying to shove it.

[ika]

tldr

after doing an iso with a clear and refreshed mind, im putting him town. however i shot my brain half-dead doing that.

it might be some time before i can do another (teirs).

as for the teir v emeald v rob, im kinda willing to vote/lynch any of them at this point (my vote should be on teri atm iirc).

[TierShift]

Spoiler: bjc iso

16: pregame stuff, means hes paying attention
17: just reaction to my randomness of a roleclaim
19: asking for opinions
26: random change of vote
28: semi-filler
35: bunch of one-liners
39: random counter vote
58: answer later
60: threatens emerald
84: more discussion
94: saying doesnt care who gets lynched (scum would prob be more caring about it, even early game)
108: answers questions
136: mini wall of stuff
141: more about just "random lynching"
195: some real life stuff, not much to note
197: the seocond part did seem odd for me at first becasue i have seen scums go "this person is misguided town" howevere his backs it up with other reaosning (ISO)
208 compares my playstly to apparently another person?
253: not feeling rob train yet
256: follows up on it
279: vote hops to me as presussure
280: wants more wagoning
283: this post is ehh, it goes either way. but it sound more like "you can target me but it would be wasting time" (im noting how he says any of them, this would include cop)
289: discussion with lmb and some talk about follow cop plan and stuff
322: scum read emerald for passivle play
354: names 3 scums and thinks one of them is scum
365: this was the big test overall for me in this, he sits at l-1 for a huge ass time with my intent to hammer. now this is on the 26th so it got burried away.
377: points out teirs lack substance
382: point out teris defelction and having that he has burden of proof
388: pointing out teirs lack of his own proof, as well as how he "thinks" he falsely thinks rayfrost is scum
406: pointout abbott (who has been replaced) vaildating his points but not unvoting.
430: bunch of one-liners but responds in manner
433: activity
435: points out teirs lazyness in doing stuff
455: respond toward my hamemr threat.
463: a few one liners, but some were quite informative, showing how ed is jsut kinda fluff posting.
473: noting emralds things again.
498: more at teir
502: showing teirs usless posting and telling him to elaborate on it
507: turing tables on tier whit givign him burden of proof
509: wtf post?
526: says self hamemr, but doesnt seem scum motivated imo, it seems like he more in the "im not gonna convince you mode so let me show you"
560: want to see emerald flip
575: complains to me aobut using vote as pressure and not to threaten lycnh
580: unsure about teir, but seems fixated on ed.
582: want to hear others on what traspired
603: ed lynch wanted
608: saying fuck it hammer me
647: points out tier
678: now goes at teir
688: pointing out his flaws
690: point out hes deflecting
699: does the activiy of him building a case (it may get old but its what i do, deal with it)
762: how he plays and prgession of playstlye

rest are not all that of importance

Bjc, here is what's called IIoA.

[bjc]

ED's post(s) that I labelled IIoA were the same/pretty close. None of his "analyzing" seemed genuine.

[bjc]

Glad to see the game has picked up overall since Sakura's replacing in. Now we determine the primary lynch candidate.

[TierShift]

Bjc (others also), what do you think of 670?

[emeraldemon]

I'm standing at hana-town, ika-town, nacho-kindatown, bjc-somewhatscummy, robw-diescumbutreplacesoidk, ed-leaningscum, tearshift-null.

You forgot Lynch Me Bro, btw.

[Nachomamma8]

Nacho, I wanted to satisfy ika because I wanted to see where he'd go with it. What he did was completely not what I had imagined, but I don't see anything inherently wrong with being willing to perform an exercise for a town read.

When did you change your mind about ika?

[Nachomamma8]

I didn't make a mistake so much as the wording was a bit ambiguous.

Anyway, I've been procrastinating reading this book a bit too much. I need to finish it within the next three or four hours.

RADIO SILENCE OR RIOT

also, much love to you all

especially the entire cast of queen

Wait hold on. Why are we townreading sakura / abbott? I thought that slot was somewhere between null and scum.

@Sakura
Can you tell me what made you flip to ika scum?

Time is short, we're gonna have to lynch soonish. Post 670 from Tiershift actually felt townish to me, but maybe I am getting too caught up in it. I have always been OK with lynching Rob.

Abbott's been town as hell for a while now.

[Nachomamma8]

I never said abott was null / scum. I actually listed him as leaning town, and hana is townposting to me, so she's a towny read.

Ika's my strongest town read at the moment, hana is #2, and I'm getting a feeling about nacho. It might just be my haterade, though. huehue

Probably.
At least you're staying hydrated!

[emeraldemon]

I don't really agree about Sakura being town, but I don't think we can deal with that right now. It looks like the only realistic lynches are Rob W or Tiershift, with an outside chance of bjc. In some ways Rob W + Tiershift scumteam makes sense, tiershift has been the most resistant to the Rob lynch.

Rob is probably going to get replaced with 48 hours left or something like that, his replacement will make a spurt of vaguely townish posts, and either we'll lynch him anyway or we won't. I feel like it'll be very difficult to get an accurate read on a completely new player in a day.

[Sakura Hana]

So 2 days until deadline, and im fine with either Rob or Tier.

[emeraldemon]

Sakura I don't think your voting anyone right now, would you vote whoever you'd rather see lynched please?

[emeraldemon]

*you're

[Sakura Hana]

Sakura I don't think your voting anyone right now, would you vote whoever you'd rather see lynched please?

I already specified whose 2 im fine seeing lynched, we need to come to a concensus of who.

[Sakura Hana]

So from my PoV, lynching the Rob saves the mod having to look for a replacement, and has a statistically higher chance of being scum, both from actual statistics and personal experience from replacing into newbie slots.
While Tier has more interactions that can be analyzed, and him flipping scum would implicate a scum Rob as well ANYWAY, while a Town flip would leave us with a possible bjc scum. So I think TS would be a priority for me, I want to hear Nacho's and Ray's opinion on the matter (and p.much also everyone on Nacho's TBloc)

[emeraldemon]

Don't forget tiershift also replaced into a newbie slot, so presumably the statistics are the same.