The Fall of Gondolin Mafia: Game Over (The Tale of Gondolin)

[ActionDan]

it's a feeling.

[ActionDan]

and I can read Peregrine decently

[ActionDan]

I wouldn't be surprised if Spyrex was scum here BTW

[Majiffy]

[ActionDan]

I'll be voting Despardo if it comes to it.

forewarning about any counter wagons that may or may not crop up

[Shadoweh]

I would vote for Spyrex just because his lurking on Espionage campaign has attracted literally no attention on him for no reason.
I don't think PV's done anything town. The only thing I remember him doing is poking at me for no reason and then doing nothing about it.
I think you're just townreading him because he agreed with your read. I don't agree with this wagon anymore and the agonizingly slow way votes are progressing has me convinced scum just doesn't give a hell about either of them as wagons.

##Unvote:
##Vote: PeregrineV

Instead of acting like this entire day phase is your V/LA vacation, explain why you agree with Dan about Tierce and why you keep poking at me, but follow it up with a vote on someone who from my observations is pretty easy to hate.

[Plum]

But at last, as with great labour they came to the very foot of the cliff, they found an opening, as it were the mouth of a tun­nel worn in the hard rock by waters flowing from the heart of the mountains. They entered, and within there was no light, but Voronwë went steadily forward, while Tuor followed with his hand upon his shoulder, bending a little, for the roof was low. Thus for a time they went on blindly, step by step, until pres­ently they felt the ground beneath their feet had become level and free from loose stones. Then they halted and breathed deeply, as they stood listening. The air seemed fresh and whole­some, and they were aware of a great space around and above them; but all was silent, and not even the drip of water could be heard. It seemed to Tuor that Voronwë was troubled and in doubt, and he whispered: "Where then is the Guarded Gate? Or have we indeed now passed it?"

"Nay," said Voronwë. "Yet I wonder, for it is strange that any incomer should creep thus far unchallenged. I fear some stroke in the dark."

But their whispers aroused the sleeping echoes, and they were enlarged and multiplied, and ran in the roof and the un­seen walls, hissing and murmuring as the sound of many stealthy voices. And even as the echoes died in the stone, Tuor heard out of the heart of the darkness a voice speak in the Elven-tongues: first in the High Speech of the Noldor, which he knew not; and then in the tongue of Beleriand, though in a manner somewhat strange to his ears, as of a people long sundered from their kin.

"Stand!" it said. "Stir not! Or you will die, be you foes or friends."

"We are friends," said Voronwë.

"Then do as we bid," said the voice.

The echo of their voices rolled into silence. Voronwë and Tuor stood still, and it seemed to Tuor that many slow minute passed, and a fear was in his heart such as no other peril of his road had brought. Then there came the beat of feet, growing to a tramping loud as the march of trolls in that hollow place. Suddenly an elven-lantern was unhooded, and its bright ray was turned upon Voronwë before him, but nothing else could Tuor see save a dazzling star in the darkness; and he knew that while that beam was upon him he could not move, neither to flee nor to run forward.

For a moment they were held thus in the eye of the light, and then the voice spoke again, saying: "Show your faces!" And Voronwë cast back his hood, and his face shone in the ray, hard and clear, as if graven in stone; and Tuor marvelled to see to beauty. Then he spoke proudly, saying: "Know you not whom you see? I am Voronwë son of Aranwë of the House of Fingolfin. Or am I forgotten in my own land after a few years? Far beyond the thought of Middle-earth I have wandered, yet I remember your voice, Elemmakil."

"Then Voronwë will remember also the laws of his land," said the voice. "Since by command he went forth, he has the right to return. But not to lead hither any stranger. By that deed his right is void, and he must be led as a prisoner to the king's judgement. As for the stranger, he shall be slain or held captive at the judgement of the Guard. Lead him hither that I may judge."

Then Voronwë led Tuor towards the light, and as they drew near many Noldor, mail-clad and armed, stepped forward out of the darkness and surrounded them with drawn swords. And Elemmakil, captain of the Guard, who bore the bright lamp, looked long and closely at them.

VOTE COUNT 2:7

Espeonage

- 1 - SpyreX

Tierce

- 2 - ActionDan, Albert B. Rampage

Majiffy

- 1 - TheIrishPope

Albert B. Rampage

- 3 - Elscouta, PeregrineV, Tierce

sirdanilot

- 2 - Desperado, Espeonage

Desperado

- 2 - Cogito Ergo Sum, sirdanilot

PeregrineV

- 3 - shos, Majiffy, Shadoweh

Not voting (2)

: JacobSavage, MafiaSSK

With 16 players alive it takes

9

votes to lynch.
Deadline is in (expired on 2014-02-05 00:00:01)

Espeonage

has been prodded.

[Shadoweh]

I'm pretty sure Plum has posted more then half the game right now. Like wake the fuck up people.

[Espeonage]

This has been low priority and I slept most of yesterday. Lemma have a look.

ABR tends to get mislynched early a hell of a lot, so not keen on going there. Haven't looked at PV so I might get on that.

[shos]

Why am I not surprised that ActionDan suddenly appears with an opinion on like that

[sirdanilot]

I wouldn't be surprised if Spyrex was scum here BTW

I wouldn't either. He promised in the beginning of day 1 to state lots os scum reads n shit other than the Esp thing. But instead, he's just parking his vote on esp and doing nothing at all, he's also much more lurky than I remember from his olden days.

Not a top lynch priority now though. I put him at second lynch priority, just like JS who is also scum but not lynchable anytime soon because claim n all (yes I have a firm scumread on JS).

PeregrineV may not be scum but he's CERTAINLY not town either. I don't have a real read on him, but maybe a bandwagon might change that.

unvote

VOTE: PeregrineV

[shos]

PeregrineV may not be scum but he's CERTAINLY not town either.

If PV flips 3rd party, sirdan is scum.

[sirdanilot]

That's ridiculous.

[shos]

Well you vote him despite thinking he is not scum. So unless you think he is 3rd party, and nothing should make you yhink so unless he is bad and you know he is not scum, i dont get your vote.

[sirdanilot]

Have you ever heard of 'pressure vote'? I want to see him play the game, that's why I am voting him.

You should really learn to read players who have a different play style than you better. Go read a game of mine where I'm town that has just finished: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=35056

[shos]

It is not pressure if you know the wagon on you does not intend to lynch you.

[sirdanilot]

I don't think PV is a bad lynch at all, though tbh nearly everyone in this game is lynchable.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote, vote VOTE: PeregrineV

[sirdanilot]

ABR is as vote hoppy as me except he doesn't actually contribute anything, he just sheeps every bandwagon in existence. ABR may be scum.

[ActionDan]

We should all speed lynch tierce

[sirdanilot]

This game is gonna be a scum win. I am certain of it. We have the following categories of players:

1. Useless people who aren't contributing anyone or are playing in a way that is detrimental to the town:
Espeonage, SpyreX, TheIrishPope

2. People who are trying to contribute, but have bad reads (note: I didn't check everyones current reads for this so this might be partially wrong):
Elscouta, shos, Desperado (also 3)

3. Useless lurkers that do nothing but vote hop and post one liners, if they even post at all:
ActionDan, Albert B. Rampage, PeregrineV, JacobSavage, MafiaSSK, Desperado (also 2), Cogito Ergo Sum (also 4)

4. The town's core, even though not all of these are necessarily town, they are the only ones that keep some amount of movement in the game
Majiffy, Shadoweh, sirdanilot, Tierce, Cogito Ergo Sum (also 3)

[sirdanilot]

Even number 4 has some pretty bad people on it. A town led by Shadoweh, Tierce, CES does not flow my boat at all; especially CES is a good scumread, the others not so much. The people in the other categories are just euseless, even those in category 2 who could do better but don't.

Category 3 is what is the most detrimental to the town, even more than 1, because you can't even read them. This is the category scum likes to see, and the category that tends to hold a decent amount of scum (JS and two of the others in this case, I think).

[shos]

however scummy Sirdan can be, his post is reallyy true up there. PV needs rope.

[sirdanilot]

Yes, people we are lynching should be out of group 3 mainly, with the addition of Esp who should die, die and die once more. Even if we would roll a dice and pick someone from that group, we have a higher than average chance of hitting scum.



That is why I am voting PV. Not because I have a scum read on him per se.

[sirdanilot]

PV Are you still scum now that you have 6 votes? If not, who is scum? Is the wagon on you scum-driven?