Newbie 1471: Italian Ice (Game Over!)

[TierShift]

On your ika case, I'd like to quote your sig: Morons are everywhere though. The average person is average, half of the people are even dumber than average.

To me, it seems that ika is running around like a chicken without a head, actionwise. But his style of posting and not hiding anything really make me feel that he's town. I have no understanding of your case on him. I see that he is not exactly helping out but I see no scum.

Pisskop, I have defended your slot solely for the fact that lurking isn't a scumtell. I had no townread on robw whatsoever, let that be clear, and you have not improved my image of the slot. I have not seen much good done by you, except pushing a lynch on a VI. Are you caught up now?

[pisskop]

yea. taking a study break. going to look over isos soon enough.

[Sakura Hana]

I'll give you until tonight (until around 6 hours from now to be exact), I still want to hear Nacho's and Ray's thoughts on what has happened so far since your replace in. If I see any convincing reason to give you more time then I will.

[TierShift]

Why so fast? There's over 2 days to deadline and I don't see a reason to lynch him before he has conveyed all thoughts he has about this game.

[pisskop]

threats are challenge not to. you dudnt strip ika of hammer privilidges to do it yourself, so soon. youll get what i give you today, and the rest tomorrow.

[TierShift]

Why is bjc town kop?

[bjc]

Jeez, I just love these forceful, threatening/challenging posts by 'kop. /sarcasm


Lynch this guy by sunset, please.

[pisskop]

I don't know, I can't really get behind a Rob vote right now because he's posted twice I think, or maybe three times.

Hostile place

Your posting style makes me laugh.


Is this all that is gonna be offered? At this rate there won't be a replacement, and I don't wanna push for a policy lynch but... Really?

well, i was.looking at his iso and Im going to have to ask him more about this. willget back to why I thought he was town though.

bjc, is this a policy lynch, and why are you votingmy slot?

pedit, glad you are still with us.

[pisskop]

I think there's a little bit to be gained by the RobW flip, not a whole lot though. I think we're in a bind though: He posts just enough to not get replaced. So... What the hell is his usefulness to us?

@ ika - Want to know why I feel like "you won't lynch me?" Because I'm town. Just like you said you don't feel threatened due to being town, I feel like I won't be lynched because I'm town. There's a reason I'm wanting to know if someone has intent to hammer.

So tell me: Do you have a serious intent to hammer?

o.o ???

[bjc]

Please continue ISOing me and see where we already discussed that stuff. Kthx

[TierShift]

Good stuff koppie

[pisskop]

lul well if im not scum than come tomorrow youll have this stain.on you.

you flipped like a pog in less than 100 posts.

[TierShift]

Talking to me?

[pisskop]

Good stuff koppie

:/ what do you want from me? i dont have an 8ball in my pants, you want reads you let me assess the info.

my reads from half a game gut-read bjc as town.

my current scumreads put emerald, ika, nacho, lmb, bjc, tier, hana, ray. bleh. now should I stop reading?

pedit: the above is, that post is bjc's.

[bjc]

Good stuff koppie

my current scumreads put emerald, ika, nacho, lmb, bjc, tier, hana, ray. bleh. now should I stop reading?

What?

[pisskop]

scummiest left.

[pisskop]

emerald is scummiest, ray towniest.

[TierShift]

:/ what do you want from me?

Moar bjc pressure

Now explain your emerald scumread.

[pisskop]

o.h

[pisskop]

Spoiler:

Wow OK.

I'm here, I have real-life work to do today but I will be around to answer this thread.

So I'm at L-2, does anyone want to ask me anything? Or tell me why I'm scummy? Sakura, ika, bjc? The only question I've gotten so far is "Why Rob?"

We are running out of time, but I'd really rather not claim if I don't have to. is there any chance of a Rob W lynch today? Yes, Rob W could maybe just be lurking, but I've soured on the bjc lynch.

@tiershift did you read my last post directed at you? Any comments?

I don't really agree about Sakura being town, but I don't think we can deal with that right now. It looks like the only realistic lynches are Rob W or Tiershift, with an outside chance of bjc. In some ways Rob W + Tiershift scumteam makes sense, tiershift has been the most resistant to the Rob lynch.

Rob is probably going to get replaced with 48 hours left or something like that, his replacement will make a spurt of vaguely townish posts, and either we'll lynch him anyway or we won't. I feel like it'll be very difficult to get an accurate read on a completely new player in a day.

@ika
I can't tell if you're lazy or scum, but I'm hoping lazy. Let me quote for you the parts of the thread you should have read already:

Time is short, we're gonna have to lynch soonish. Post 670 from Tiershift actually felt townish to me, but maybe I am getting too caught up in it. I have always been OK with lynching Rob.

Rob is probably going to get replaced with 48 hours left or something like that, his replacement will make a spurt of vaguely townish posts, and either we'll lynch him anyway or we won't. I feel like it'll be very difficult to get an accurate read on a completely new player in a day.

The question is, do wait for the replacement in case he claims PR?

Claim.

nope lynch me.

Any questions?

why couldnt you let me die in ignorance? This isnt scum posting, and the lurkiness doesnt outweigh the towniness.

[TierShift]

I actually have a hard time seeing if you're serious or not.

[pisskop]

1) was not anticipating this game.
2) Im not at acomputer, or only playing thisgame. life happens.
3) yea. by itself, thats towny yo. but lurker.
4) the impression i got reading was as lurker only surpassed by lmb or robw. this states a little otherwise.

do you think he is scum? ill iso you i guess?

[Sakura Hana]

you dudnt strip ika of hammer privilidges to do it yourself, so soon.

So you would have rather he have hammered you in 1 hour? I gave you more time than he did, and the fact that you're at L-1 means there's at least 4 more ppl that want you dead ASAP.

[pisskop]

Right, I was saying that between 407 and 478 you dropped from 4th to 2nd. It doesn't matter now.

I'm going off of 505 because it's the last time you stated your case completely I think. These are the things I think are bugging you.
(1) sheeping: bjc sheeped hard in the early game, everyone knows it and he admits it. He played the early game very casually. But there is a town motivation for pushing wagons to generate content. It's not as good as actual pressure, but it's something.
(2) pushing Rob W: I think you're a bit off on this, as I said, he never voted Rob W. Where's the sheeping there?
(3) "Survivalism": 365 and 369 are actually consistent with the behavior of a town PR I think. Not saying he is one and I definitely don't want to force an early claim (and that's why there shouldn't be an early intent to hammer), but certain types of town players get panicky when they are close to a lynch.

You and bjc have been fighting a lot, and honestly it's generating more heat than light. My advice for both of you would be this: Take a step back. Even if you're sure he's scum, look around for his scum partner. Don't get caught up in OMGUS.

Okay, lemme respond to this.
1. His sheeping didn't generate anything at all, while making it seem like it did. He's done little to move this game forward but has been pretending he has.
2. He didn't vote robw, but he definitely told all his attackers to move to robw, for reason 'I'm active and he's not and we all have the same chance of being scum'.
3. Putting away scummy things as PR behaviour is awful.

I have been taking a step back and also been considering you as a serious suspect. But as far as I can see, you and bjc are not buddies. Bjc still stands out as scum to me way more than you do, especially after your last posts.

Your hardcore scumreading of me due to disengaging you is something that is a town analysis in every aspect and I would say you do a better job at helping us forward with the little you have posted than with all the crap bjc has posted. You seek reasoning behind what someone's doing except of just scratching the surface. Now what I'm asking of you is to not only do this on me, but also on the other players.

I have emerald as strong town again and you can all go deal with it.

Saying that I'm WK'ing him however is preposterous.

I want a bjc lynch badly and if I'm not getting it I might be okay with a robw lurker lynch.

does this stand? (emerald as town?)

[pisskop]

Im willing to see VI IKA, but then who? Nacho does not deserve obvtown even if he is town.