The Fall of Gondolin Mafia: Game Over (The Tale of Gondolin)

[MafiaSSK]

PereV wagon? Eh. Maybe if deadline gets close enough.

ABR wagon? Nope.

Sirdani though
VOTE: Sirdanilot

[ActionDan]

I haven't read shos. You are town

[TheIrishPope]

Where did I say that Tip?

Also how does it feel being on the 'useless people who aren't contributing' list?

well, there's no real other reason to vote PV
and what am I supposed to feel about your silly list?

[Shadoweh]

PereV wagon? Eh. Maybe if deadline gets close enough.
ABR wagon? Nope.
Sirdani though
VOTE: Sirdanilot

Jesus fuck, why? And if you wanted to vote him why didn't you do this days ago?

Please, tell me more about how I'm scum, I can't wait to have this talk every time I do literally anything.
(I'd be willing to vote shos, but eh. The whole triple fanclub thing was kind of creepy actually. I'm not used to being popular.)

Hey Rudolph, if you want to have a grown-up opinion about who should be being voted try taking your vote and sticking it somewhere useful. If you don't want PV lynched vote someone else.

[SpyreX]

I see that the same mistakes made are destined to be repeated.

Desperado - 4 - Cogito Ergo Sum, sirdanilot, Shadoweh, Albert B. Rampage
PeregrineV - 5 - shos, Majiffy, Shadoweh, sirdanilot, Albert B. Rampage

I think PV is a bad lynch right now and if it was time for a lurkerin the guy who flat out said he wouldn't be here is a strange choice.

The bigger problem is, STILL, there's not really an attempt to start to move in a direction with a purpose. The fragmentation is going to be worse.

Its not OMG SCUM WIN like some would suggest but shove it through and, assuming this is a failure, someone come out the gates and shove the wolves in a direction under real reasons. Right or wrong, that's what this game needs.

And I freely say that chances are high its not gonna be me to even try it.

[Espeonage]

^This post is surprisingly truthful.

I don't like either of the wagons which is sads.

[Espeonage]

ABR is as vote hoppy as me except he doesn't actually contribute anything, he just sheeps every bandwagon in existence. ABR may be scum.

Readas: ABR is less abrasive to town thinking straight and is therefore a more positive influence on the town as a whole. Which says alot.

[Espeonage]

PV was really quiet in marketplace 3 as well but everyone's top townread and flipped town. What's the difference. Explain that and I might come along.

[sirdanilot]

And I freely say that chances are high its not gonna be me to even try it.

I think spyrex may be scum. Town-spyre wouldn't play against his win con like this (voteparking and not contributing at all and posting only marginally enough to avoid being prodded).

[sirdanilot]

I mean the votepark could come from townspyrex, but that's where it ends. Townspyrex is usually much more aggressive and contributive, and finds people scum all the time, epecially me even though I played two games with him where he called me scum and I flipped town.

He did mentioned somewhere vaguely towards the beginning of the game that he found me scum (go look for it yourself), possible to motivate a vote hop on me later if Esp would ever die, or maybe to just call me scum and leave it at that and let the idiot town do the rest. But town spyrex would certainly be calling me scum much more actively at this point; or at least other people who are, you know, ACTUALLY scum.

unvote

VOTE: Spyrex

I am still willing to deadline lynch PV but it would be nice to lynch scum for once.

[Espeonage]

The above is the best post you've made all game.

[ActionDan]

I'm in.

VOTE: spyrex

[Elscouta]

Unsure if I already wrote this, but i have no internet access at home, which means that i'm not able to play during weekends. Currently digesting the last 5 pages.

[Elscouta]

But, ABR is running at 100% below minimal.

Does he do that often as scum? We just finished a perfect scum win together and he was significantly more interested in the game than he appears to be right now.

His wiki shows that he prefers to be pro-town. Also, the reason I am (we are?) voting ABR is because his lack of interest seems faked (particularly the interaction with Tierce).

Majiffy's correlation of strong players:Townreads is terrible and would lynch too.

There is barely a correlation between Majiffy's townreads and influential players. I'm not sure why we would care about supposedly "strong" players, but I definitely wouldn't put half of Majiffy townreads in this category.

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The PV bandwagon is bad. He will most likely not get lynched, and everything that he has (not) done, ABR has (not) done it in a more scummy way.
It is both a useless wagon because calling it a pressure wagon at half point makes it unlikely to result into anything and possibly a scum-driven wagon to distract from ABR.

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sirdanilot list is terrible. It is a mix of "everyone that suspects me is working against the town" / "let's call 66% of the town useless for the Nth time just to up my postcount" / "people that don't suspect me are cool and are making the town core".

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Desperado - 4 - Cogito Ergo Sum, sirdanilot, Shadoweh, Albert B. Rampage
PeregrineV - 5 - shos, Majiffy, Shadoweh, sirdanilot, Albert B. Rampage

Shadoweh, you need to stop following sirscumalot and Albert Scum Rampage, or you will get lynched with them.

[Plum]

Now sunlight fell upon the further road, for the walls of the hills were low on either side, and green, but for the snows upon their tops; and Elemmakil hastened forward, for the way was short to the Seventh Gate, named the Great, the Gate of Steel that Maeglin wrought after the return from the Nirnaeth, across the wide entrance to the Orfalch Echor.

No wall stood there, but on either hand were two round towers of great height, many-windowed, tapering in seven storeys to a turret of bright steel, and between the towers there stood a mighty fence of steel that rusted not, but glittered cold and white. Seven great pillars of steel there were, tall with the height and girth of strong young trees, but ending in a bitter spike that rose to the sharpness of a needle; and between the pillars were seven cross-bars of steel, and in each space seven times seven rods of steel upright, with heads like the broad blades of spears. But in the centre, above the midmost pillar and the greatest, was raised a mighty image of the king-helm of Turgon, the Crown of the Hidden Kingdom, set about with dia­monds.

No gate or door could Tuor see in this mighty hedge of steel, but as he drew near through the spaces between its bars there came, as it seemed to him, a dazzling light, and he shaded his eyes, and stood still in dread and wonder. But Elemmakil went forward, and no gate opened to his touch; but he struck upon a bar, and the fence rang like a harp of many strings, giving forth clear notes in harmony that ran from tower to tower.

Straightway there issued riders from the towers, but before those of the north tower came one upon a white horse; and he dismounted and strode towards them. And high and noble as was Elemmakil, greater and more lordly was Ecthelion, Lord of the Fountains, at that time Warden of the Great Gate. All in silver was he clad, and upon his shining helm there was set a spike of steel pointed with a diamond; and as his esquire took his shield it shimmered as if it were bedewed with drops of rain, that were indeed a thousand studs of crystal.

VOTE COUNT 2:9

Espeonage

- 1 - SpyreX

Majiffy

- 1 - TheIrishPope

Albert B. Rampage

- 3 - Elscouta, PeregrineV, Tierce

sirdanilot

- 3 - Desperado, Espeonage, MafiaSSK

PeregrineV

- 5 - shos, Majiffy, Shadoweh, Albert B. Rampage, Cogito Ergo Sum

SpyreX

- 2 - sirdanilot, ActionDan

Not voting (1)

: JacobSavage

With 16 players alive it takes

9

votes to lynch.
Deadline is in (expired on 2014-02-05 00:00:01)

JacobSavage

has been prodded.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

There is barely a correlation between Majiffy's townreads and influential players. I'm not sure why we would care about supposedly "strong" players, but I definitely wouldn't put half of Majiffy townreads in this category.

There aren't enough strong players in the game for that. Given what Majiffy had to work with, the group {Tierce, SpyreX, me} all seems a bit higher up than I'd expect and those are exactly the three biggest names in the game.

[sirdanilot]

The above is the best post you've made all game.

Doesn't mean you shouldn't die scummypants, though I will admit that you-scum is slightly less likely if Spyrex would flip scum. Very sad if that were the case because I really really wanted you dead in this game

Els will you be a doll and be like Action-I-Hop-Onto-Every-Wagon-Dan and hop onto the Spyrex wagon please thanks.

[ActionDan]

Action-I-Hop-Onto-Some-Wagons-Dan

ftfy

[sirdanilot]

Which wagons did you not hop onto? I think that would be interesting. I mean I could go check your iso but why not let you do the work?

Cause I think it'll be easier for you to collect those, than the wagons you did hop onto.

[ActionDan]

I don't hop on wagons that I have town reads on

[sirdanilot]

Okay I have iso'd you and you seem genuine, or at least consistent in your reads.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote, vote Spyrex

[Elscouta]

Els will you be a doll and be like Action-I-Hop-Onto-Every-Wagon-Dan and hop onto the Spyrex wagon please thanks.

Sigh. It seems to be another playstyle-based wagon, which means that I would need to do a meta analysis on him. Add to that the fact that it was launched as a counterwagon to wagons I like (and by people far from my townlist) means I will most likely not be on board.

Wagons I would support currently : ABR, Desp, sirdan

[Elscouta]

There is barely a correlation between Majiffy's townreads and influential players. I'm not sure why we would care about supposedly "strong" players, but I definitely wouldn't put half of Majiffy townreads in this category.

There aren't enough strong players in the game for that. Given what Majiffy had to work with, the group {Tierce, SpyreX, me} all seems a bit higher up than I'd expect and those are exactly the three biggest names in the game.

Ok, I can understand the reasoning. I checked Majiffy reasoning for these reads, and they look "okayish". Even if i disagree with the tell, Tierce probably gets town points for pointing out a very non-obvious scumtell though.

[TheIrishPope]

Unvote, vote Spyrex

Seriously, what the fuck is your problem? What's the motivation behind jumping on every fucking wagon? How does this help town at all?