Touhou: Mafia in the Land of Fantasy (Game Over)

[zMuffinMan]

there's also the idea that we could confirm his track results

is confirming my track results going to do anything to change your read on dram or kat? coz if it is, you should just work on the assumption that i'm telling the truth and go from there.

Meta: MOLLIE WOULDN'T DO THAT!

... but she wouldn't do what she did if she had a guilty on me, and the closest anyone has come to presenting a sane or logical argument for why she would do that is that mollie was playing with other people. but that doesn't explain why she/they were fine with voting AD

Any one know why they call it a safe-claim? Because its safe.... go figure. If the mod gives scum a safe-claim tracker, its because the claim isn't going to be able to be caught by mass-claim!

so you believe that not only is the ninja a red herring, but that somehow it makes sense for gif to include a ninja and give scum a tracker safeclaim? or do you think i'm SK now or something?

what's your picture of the setup, btw? coz i'm kind of interested in what you guys think of how much protective power town has

[zMuffinMan]

Dramonic had nothing worth stealing, so he is either a VT or he is a goon

were you told you're a vanilla cop or was this just an assumption on your part?

coz my theory about your role is that certain players in this game (perhaps regardless of role or alignment) have items you can take, and you get certain abilities or effects from those items. which sounds like a fun role, but is essentially useless for determining anything

[Nachomamma8]

cabd is it really that fucking hard to respond to me?

[Varsoon]

Hey hey, Muffin. Muuuuffin.

Who's the scum?

[zMuffinMan]

i'm still thinking saki and one of gcbc/dram are good bets

where are you at with reads?

[zMuffinMan]

everything prohawk writes makes me cringe

[GoodCop_BadCop]

everything prohawk writes makes me cringe

Everything you write makes me cringe, so ??

I honestly don't do setup spec because I have been burned/have seen games burned more often than not because of it. I am sure that competent mods take setup spec into consideration when designing closed setup games to not make them favor one side or the other.

it makes sense for gif to include a ninja and give scum a tracker safeclaim?

Your self defense is a pretty freaking compelling argument isn't it? It has managed to weasel your way out of being lynched. To answer your question, I wouldn't put it past GIF to use that for a scum-team advantage point.

I think Cabd has lost motivation for this game?

~GC

[zMuffinMan]

I honestly don't do setup spec because I have been burned/have seen games burned more often than not because of it. I am sure that competent mods take setup spec into consideration when designing closed setup games to not make them favor one side or the other.

ok. i was specifically asking what you think of how much claimed protective power there is.

there's a claimed doc + a claimed macho nerfed-JK + a claimed inventor who can give BP + your BP claim. not to mention 1-shot bomb on top of this. there's far too much claimed anti-kill power in the game. have you guys not discussed this at all?

To answer your question, I wouldn't put it past GIF to use that for a scum-team advantage point

that doesn't even make sense - you're basically stretching to suggest that gif included ninja as a red herring and a scum tracker fake-claim to possibly give scum an advantage IF (and only if) the ninja is lynched.

[Katarina LeBlanc]

I dont like this GCBC lynch so you guys will have to do it without me I'd much rather prefer the lynch pool i posted a day back..

I'm tired and just w/e you know

[Kagami]

Mac, who did you protect n1 and n2?

[bubbajack8]

Whatever.

{Saki, Bubba, Dram} initial lyncpool when I flip town; also never listen to a word waynegg says anymore because he's shit, also I still remain unconvinced that muffin isn't scum so please do work further in that regards.

How the hell did you put me in there?

heck, if their first post was simply "So we talked last night, and given the flips, we've decided x is scum and y is probably innocent," that would be sufficient.

I thought they did say something about discussing it last night?

Contemplating a GCBC lynch. mainly because of Katarina, but I still like a muffin lynch.

Really tho it could be 1 of GCBC/muffin. Wouldn't be surprised.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

you're basically stretching to suggest that gif included ninja as a red herring and a scum tracker fake-claim to possibly give scum an advantage IF (and only if) the ninja is lynched.

I am a well known conspiracy theorist.

But fake-claims are not exclusive to one person, so said fake-claims could benefit anyone NOT the ninja.

Too much anti-kill power? Doc, Bulletproof, and item-given bulletproof. From my understanding Macho means said person can't be protected right? So that would be anti-protect. Bomb isn't necessarily anti-kill especially when said bomb has to guess correctly on when he would die.

We haven't really discussed much about this game. Like I said, I think Cabd has lost motivation.

~GC

[Katarina LeBlanc]

Cabd baby,

no

.

[Sakura Hana]

That was prohawk actually.

[Sakura Hana]

Wait nvm i see what you mean now.

[Kagami]

muffin, on the off chance that GCBC flipped town, and you were king-made tonight, who would you lynch tomorrow?

[Varsoon]

@Muffin: I'm all over the place. I'm way paranoid of the claims so far. A lot of 'If X then Y, but if not X, then Z.' I'm holding to my GCBC tag, but otherwize, I don't feel great about everyone who's gone silent. I also am growing to trust less and less the vocal folks. So, eh, s'bout it.

[Yukari Yakumo]

VC 3.10

zMuffinMan (L-7):

pieguyn | Mac

GoodCop_BadCop (L-4):

Varsoon | ActionDan | Saki | Kagami | Jaqen Hghar

ActionDan (L-8):

Kise

bubbajack8 (L-6):

bubbajack8 | Katarina LeBlanc | Messiah Complex

Not Voting:

dramonic, Nachomamma8, Sakura Hana, zMuffinMan, GoodCop_BadCop

With 16 alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch.

The deadline is February 11, 3:30 PM EST.
Countdown: (expired on 2014-02-11 15:30:00)

[Jaqen Hghar]

I am more than fine with our lynch today. I understand our role is one that needs to be lynched at some-point since we will never die at night, and it's important for you all to HARD RESET. I would have liked to have lynched more scum before we went down, but I am not usually one to garner a whole lot of support behind my ideas.

I am not sure how close to lynch we are, but if anyone hammers before I get to analyze my wagon, consider it a scum-claim (or dumb-claim in the case of Jaqen).

Here is where we will start and I will work more when I am at a point to sit down for a longer period of time.

It BLOWS me away that we have a flipped cop who very will could have, and has suggested that they had a guilty on Muffin but we aren't lynching it because:

Meta: MOLLIE WOULDN'T DO THAT!
Role: IMA TRACKER WITH NINJA-SCUM GUYS!

Any one know why they call it a safe-claim? Because its safe.... go figure. If the mod gives scum a safe-claim tracker, its because the claim isn't going to be able to be caught by mass-claim! Don't even get me started with meta arguments...

~GC

A man has seen this exact poor me dribble from scum Hawk before. Such appeal is equivalent to a scum claim from him.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

Waynegg, the greatest part of this game will be your reaction when we flip town, although I honestly think you will hardly be surprised. Please record it and send it to me.

~GC

[Varsoon]

I'm bored of you talking about flipping town and I'm ready for you to just do it already.

[Sakura Hana]

I dont like any of the current wagons/votes tbh =/ feels like it's just utility lynches.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

I'm bored of you talking about flipping town and I'm ready for you to just do it already.

Kinda like you? Ready and Willing....

You want me to take a page outta your book and self-vote, dontcha?

~GC

[GoodCop_BadCop]

just do it already.

Have something you'd like to share with the class?

[ActionDan]

analysis of your wagon doesn't seem to be happening.