Xenosaga Mafia (Game Over)

[borkjerfkin]

sddssdv

[Angry Frat BROs]

@Ffery: Who gives a flying fuck if I think MacMollie is TECHNICALLY a lurker.

Yes, their activity sucks. No, activity should not ever EVEr ever be used as an alignment tell.

[Kazekirimaru]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Flandre

ActionDan...could I interest you in

BEING MOTHERFUCKING BULLETPROOF?

I'll sheep you in exchange for motherfucking bulletproof, yesh <3

[sangres]

@Ffery: Who gives a flying fuck if I think MacMollie is TECHNICALLY a lurker.

Yes, their activity sucks. No, activity should not ever EVEr ever be used as an alignment tell.

On it's own, activity isn't an alignment tell, I agree.

[ActionDan]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Flandre Scarlet

[borkjerfkin]

Votecount 1.12

[5] Flandre Scarlet (sangres, Cabd, Cephrir, Angry Frat Bros, ActionDan)
[3] Aegor (macmollie, Skullduggery, Flandre Scarlet)
[2] Cephrir (mastin2, Kagami)
[2] Metal Sonic (Venmar, zMuffinMan)
[2] zMuffinMan (Metal Sonic, MafiaSSK)
[1] Gooner (Gooner)
[1] Kagami (Kazekirimaru)
[1] Kazekirimaru (Aegor)
[1] mastin2 (pieguyn)
[1] sangres (Varsoon)
[1] Skullduggery (orcinus_theoriginal)

With 20 alive, it is 11 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2014-02-09 21:00:00)

[borkjerfkin]

Metal Sonic was prodded.

[Aegor]

That is what left field is. I might alter my opinions somewhat after mass-ISOing, but I also can't imagine myself feeling like I need to do that so early in the game.

Left field would be a naked vote with no trajectory. I explained why mine was made. I had almost no reads on anyone and was not following the game closely. I reached the obvious solution of re-reading the game.

Why does Kaze not have more votes?

Because he is scummy.


VOTE: Flandre Scarlet

[Cabd]

[5] Flandre Scarlet (sangres, Cabd, Cephrir, Angry Frat Bros, ActionDan)

I heart every other player on this wagon I think.

[sangres]

jsyk you guys are sheeping ffery's vote.

[Varsoon]

VOTE: Flandre
Sure whynaught

[Kazekirimaru]

Cool. This can be a thing.

VOTE: Flandre

[borkjerfkin]

Votecount 1.13

[8] Flandre Scarlet (sangres, Cabd, Cephrir, Angry Frat Bros, ActionDan, Aegor, Varsoon, Kazekirimaru)
[3] Aegor (macmollie, Skullduggery, Flandre Scarlet)
[2] Cephrir (mastin2, Kagami)
[2] Metal Sonic (Venmar, zMuffinMan)
[2] zMuffinMan (Metal Sonic, MafiaSSK)
[1] Gooner (Gooner)
[1] mastin2 (pieguyn)
[1] Skullduggery (orcinus_theoriginal)

With 20 alive, it is 11 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2014-02-09 21:00:00)

[Cabd]

Now we're getting somewhere!

Although I must admit I'd love it if I have tomorrow IRL to do some stuffsies before we hit night.

[Skullduggery]

To answer skull: yes

Faaaaaantastic.

What's your read of Aegor, Kaze? You two have had some unusual interactions thus far. Tell me what you think of him.

Not sure. First time playing with him. I hadn't noticed him too much until recently. His "I like everything you said but I still think you're scum" attitude is odd but could easily be town paranoia.

How is it relevant that this is your first time playing with him? Why was that important enough to be worth mentioning up front?

He was correct about one hypothetical scenario. Acknowledging that is not "pointing out how reasonable his explanations are."

Here you are calling it reasonable twice:

Spoiler:

1) Playing scummily and having people vote you for playing scummily are very different
2) Even reasonable wagons can yield nice info

The plan sounds very reasonable.

So? Your "plan" was what any reasonable IC would do if he were not brain-dead. Giving you towncred for a total hypothetical with an optimal strategy is like giving you towncred for telling us to lynch scummy players.

Do you always try to drown out your stances in arguments over semantics or is that only something you do when you draw Scum?

Your vote deserved to be attacked. It was terrible. I did not attempt to "shake the wagon apart;" I simply stated the obvious. I have nothing against an FS wagon at all.

If you think that my initial Flandre vote was terrible, you're more than welcome to be wrong about that. I won't hold it against you. What I want to know is why you would attack a vote that you agree with. What was the intention there? What was the desired result of this attack? Were you just stirring the pot to see what would happen? Because right now all I see is this:

Step 1: Attack vote on Flandre despite (supposedly) having no objections to Flandre getting votes.
Step 2: ?????
Step 3: PROFIT!

AFB seems convinced that you're Town, Aegor, and I'd love to be able to trust his judgment on this, but I am having such a difficult time overlooking all the illogical things that you say.

[Skullduggery]

I want Aegor to die so bad I can

taste

it...but it doesn't look like it's happening today, so...

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Flandre

That's L-2. Do we want to give Gooner a chance to catch up or just let him worry about that during the night phase?

[Kazekirimaru]

How is it relevant that this is your first time playing with him? Why was that important enough to be worth mentioning up front?

Because it's more difficult for me to get good reads on people I'm not familiar with.

[Cabd]

Does anybody else see it?

[Skullduggery]

So you don't care whether anyone else believes your laughable case on me? What are you going to do, lynch me all by yourself? You have fun with that.

I'm not sure how I feel about your confrontational attitude here.

Did you ever figure out how you feel about this?

[Kazekirimaru]

So you don't care whether anyone else believes your laughable case on me? What are you going to do, lynch me all by yourself? You have fun with that.

I'm not sure how I feel about your confrontational attitude here.

Did you ever figure out how you feel about this?

Pretty sure it's just your tone. It's not dissimilar from your other games.

[Kazekirimaru]

Does anybody else see it?

[Cabd]

I want Aegor to die so bad I can

taste

it...but it doesn't look like it's happening today, so...

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Flandre

That's L-2. Do we want to give Gooner a chance to catch up or just let him worry about that during the night phase?

This feels like a bus post because of the outright assumption that this lynch will go through. Not "well let's see what X claims" or "Let's see what they claim at L-1" or "We need to wagon Flandere now in case the claim is good and we have to compromise elsewhere"

Flat "Should we let goner have time before we lynch flandere?"

[Cabd]

What's this? Cabd doing POV scumhunting instead of meta and reaction tests and shitposting? I know, I know. You can pick your jaws up off the floor now, we get it.

[mastin2]

This feels like a bus post because of the outright assumption that this lynch will go through.

That's not a bus-vote.

THIS is a bus-vote.

VOTE: Flandre Scarlett.

I want a claim.

[Angry Frat BROs]

That's not a bus-vote.

THIS is a bus-vote.

Desire to serial kill mastin...rising..

I'm glad BRO has a townread on Cabd so I can blame him when Cabd turns out to actually just be scum this game. Cause my paranoia seems to be in sync with Cbads paranoia of himself.