Touhou: Mafia in the Land of Fantasy (Game Over)

[Yukari Yakumo]

VC 3.11

zMuffinMan (L-7):

pieguyn | Mac

GoodCop_BadCop (L-4):

Varsoon | ActionDan | Saki | Kagami | Jaqen Hghar

ActionDan (L-8):

Kise

bubbajack8 (L-6):

bubbajack8 | Katarina LeBlanc | Messiah Complex

Saki (L-8):

Sakura Hana

Not Voting:

dramonic, Nachomamma8, zMuffinMan, GoodCop_BadCop

With 16 alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch.

The deadline is February 11, 3:30 PM EST.
Countdown: (expired on 2014-02-11 15:30:00)

[Kagami]

If this seriously makes it to deadline, I will be sad.

[Sakura Hana]

or we could lynch Dram and be done with it

Unvote
Vote: Dram

[Messiah Complex]

Hey sakura, why don't you put your vote somewhere worthwhile and lynch bubba with us. At best Dram is a goon and can only do minimal damage, at worst he is a vt like he claims to be and is just annoying. Why are you avoiding the leading wagons to persue lynch pipe dreams?

-Fishy

[bubbajack8]

@MC would you consider muffin a leading wagon then?

[Kise]

I'll be less busy when I wake up today

[zMuffinMan]

I thought Unl. BP was the only one, but then I thought there were others.

what does this mean?

don't you think it would have been more beneficial as scum to claim it later when closer to being lynched/when there actually would be suspicion that you are still alive rather then at the moment Cabd claimed?

how would a bulletproof claim be beneficial as scum when you're close to being lynched? also, claiming early kind of defeats the later questions about why you're still alive so there's plenty of reason to do it as scum earlier rather than later - conversely, there's basically no reason to claim it as town earlier rather than later

btw, did you and cabd discuss whether to claim before he claimed it or did he just claim it without discussing it with you? and if you guys did discuss it, give me a run down of how the conversation went

[Sakura Hana]

Why are you avoiding the leading wagons to persue lynch pipe dreams?

I dont like any of the current wagons/votes tbh =/ feels like it's just utility lynches.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

He didn't talk to me about claiming so I had/have no clue. Apparently he claimed because he felt like the claim would have helped to find scum, but didn't actually pan out?

~GC

[Katarina LeBlanc]

Sakura why are you voting Dram? Wasn't he cleared for n1 where there were 2 nightkills?

I'd much rather lynch bubba at this point, or muffin even. Not really sure how to persuade people to not entertain silly wagons.

[Sakura Hana]

Because none of the other wagons interest me, and dram is in the lynch pool

[bubbajack8]

I thought Unl. BP was the only one, but then I thought there were others.

what does this mean?

Other unl. claims. I wasn't sure I was running with it to seee if

A: He pulled it up.
B: His reactions.

[Saki]

ow.

that hurt giffy

[ActionDan]

Spoiler:

Celes is the mastermind

[Katarina LeBlanc]

So you're going to sit on that bad wagon and wait until the day times out rather than a flip that's informative and could possibly be scum?

[Katarina LeBlanc]

Me? A mastermind? That's silly.


I'm a poor helpless little girl.

[ActionDan]

yes. very 'poor' indeed

[Sakura Hana]

So you're going to sit on that bad wagon and wait until the day times out rather than a flip that's informative and could possibly be scum?

Because i dont believe any of them is scum.

[bubbajack8]

I don't understand why anyone's getting mad about Sakura for not being on a leading wagon. It's plurality lynch you're still going to get the info you want and she can vote where she wants. Jeez.

[Kagami]

Hey sakura, why don't you put your vote somewhere worthwhile and lynch bubba with us. At best Dram is a goon and can only do minimal damage, at worst he is a vt like he claims to be and is just annoying. Why are you avoiding the leading wagons to persue lynch pipe dreams?

-Fishy

You seem fairly convinced that you are a vanilla cop of sorts, so what do you make of bubba's question to yukari?

Presumably you would have to believe he's lying that he asked it, but doesn't that seem like a remarkable brash scum-play? This relies on us asking yukari ourselves and getting a consistent result, which he couldn't be confident would happen. Look at his response to my initial statement that yukari didn't answer my question: Does that look like the reply of scum who got caught in a lie?

If he was telling the truth about having asked the question, why would he lie about yukari's response?

It seems almost certain to me that bubba is non-vanilla and his item is not stealable, and therefore you are not a vanilla-cop.

[bubbajack8]

It seems almost certain to me that bubba is non-vanilla and his item is not stealable, and therefore you are not a vanilla-cop.

this read A+B=C to me. How do you get to that conclusion I'm confused.

[Katarina LeBlanc]

You don't seem to have any scum in your pool http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p5665167

but you entertained the lynch pool that Kagami setup for you, picking the weakest and nullish lynch flip of course. Have you read back into the game at all or are you basing things on recent turn of events?

P.edit: I'm not mad.

[Katarina LeBlanc]

You seem fairly convinced that you are a vanilla cop of sorts, so what do you make of bubba's question to yukari?

Presumably you would have to believe he's lying that he asked it, but doesn't that seem like a remarkable brash scum-play? This relies on us asking yukari ourselves and getting a consistent result, which he couldn't be confident would happen. Look at his response to my initial statement that yukari didn't answer my question: Does that look like the reply of scum who got caught in a lie?

If he was telling the truth about having asked the question, why would he lie about yukari's response?

It seems almost certain to me that bubba is non-vanilla and his item is not stealable, and therefore you are not a vanilla-cop.

"Why would he lie about it"

why not ask have the masses ask the moderator about it, if one, just one of them claim that their item can vouch that their item can be stolen then I'll believe him. I do believe Bubba lied to gain temporary towncred but didn't account for others asking about their item. Lynchl should be on either bubba or MC because both of their roles and current claims are not fitting together.

[bubbajack8]

You seem fairly convinced that you are a vanilla cop of sorts, so what do you make of bubba's question to yukari?

Presumably you would have to believe he's lying that he asked it, but doesn't that seem like a remarkable brash scum-play? This relies on us asking yukari ourselves and getting a consistent result, which he couldn't be confident would happen. Look at his response to my initial statement that yukari didn't answer my question: Does that look like the reply of scum who got caught in a lie?

If he was telling the truth about having asked the question, why would he lie about yukari's response?

It seems almost certain to me that bubba is non-vanilla and his item is not stealable, and therefore you are not a vanilla-cop.

"Why would he lie about it"

why not ask have the masses ask the moderator about it, if one, just one of them claim that their item can vouch that their item can be stolen then I'll believe him. I do believe Bubba lied to gain temporary towncred but didn't account for others asking about their item. Lynchl should be on either bubba or MC because both of their roles and current claims are not fitting together.

Then all aboard the bubba train all aboard choo choo.

[Sakura Hana]

I'm going with it because none else here has wanted to interact with me so it's making it harder for me to get more townreads or some scumreads and I'm not wlling to lynch anyone that is called Jaqen, pieguy, Bubba, Nacho, muffin GCBC, Kagami, ActionDan.