The Fall of Gondolin Mafia: Game Over (The Tale of Gondolin)

[Shadoweh]

I took the quiz, and it clearly says REDACTED BECAUSE IM POLITE
The first step to getting to hold my crimes against me is to actually prove I've done horrible things.
So put a vote down, because there's no way in hell you won't make it to tomorrow the way you are!

[Majiffy]

The first step to getting to hold my crimes against me is to actually prove I've done horrible things.

You mean like that case I posted about you?

Don't worry, they're going to quicklynch you tomorrow.

[Tierce]

Man, I'm sure grateful I was forced to spend ten days doing nothing because of a dimwit who think no information Days are good--oh, wait, you're scum. Carry on.

[Majiffy]

Sure thing Tiercy.

Sorry I won't willingly partake in lynching one of few townreads I have.

[Plum]

And Tuor remained in Gondolin, for its bliss and its beauty and the wisdom of its people held mm enthralled; and he became mighty in stature and in mind, and learned deeply of the lore of the exiled Elves. Then the heart of Idril was turned to him, and his to her; and Maeglin's secret hatred grew ever greater, for he desired above all things to possess her, the only heir of the King of Gondolin. But so high did Tuor stand in the favour of the King that when he had dwelt there for seven years Turgon did not refuse him even the hand of his daughter; for though he would not heed the bidding of Ulmo, he perceived that the fate of the Noldor was wound with the one whom Ulmo had sent; and he did not forget the words that Huor spoke to him before the host of Gondolin departed from the Battle of Unnumbered Tears.

Then there was made a great and joyful feast, for Tuor had won the hearts of all that people, save only of Maeglin and his secret following; and thus there came to pass the second union of Elves and Men.

In the spring of the year after was born in Gondolin Eärendil Halfelven, the son of Tuor and Idril Celebrindal; and that was five hundred years and three since the coming of the Noldor to Middle-earth. Of surpassing beauty was Eärendil, for a light was in his face as the light of heaven, and he had the beauty and the wisdom of the Eldar and the strength and hardihood of the Men of old; and the Sea spoke ever in his ear and heart, even as with Tuor his father.

VOTE COUNT 2:12

Espeonage

- 1 - SpyreX

Albert B. Rampage

- 1 - TheIrishPope

sirdanilot

- 8 - Desperado, Espeonage, MafiaSSK, Elscouta, shos, Shadoweh, Tierce, ActionDan

PeregrineV

- 1 - Cogito Ergo Sum

Shadoweh

- 1 - PeregrineV

Tierce

- 3 - Albert B. Rampage, sirdanilot, JacobSavage

JacobSavage

- 1 - Majiffy

Not voting (0)

:

With 16 players alive, the condition of

9

votes to lynch has not been achieved. Please stand by.

[Plum]

Now is the face of Tuor grim and he looks not to live long - and there in his house upon the walls Idril arrays herself in mail, and seeks Eärendil.

And that child was in tears for the strange lights of red that played about the walls of the chamber where he slept; and tales that his nurse Meleth had woven him concerning fiery Morgoth at times of his waywardness came to him and troubled him. But his mother coming set about him a tiny coat of mail that she had let fashion in secret, and at that time he was glad and exceeding proud, and he shouted for pleasure. Yet Idril wept, for much had she cherished in her heart the fair city and her goodly house, and the love of Tuor and herself that had dwelt therein; but now she saw its destroying nigh at hand, and feared that her contriving would fail against this overwhelming might of the terror of the serpents.

THE HOUSE UPON THE WALLS

"Mother, I am splendid! I am probably the most splendid child in Gondolin at least!"

"You are to me, dear child."

"Don't weep, Mother. It is too bad about the festival, but next year there will be sweets again. And just think, we can look over the walls and laugh about how dreary old Cousin Maeglin bounced upon the rocks!"

Idril Celebrindal nods absently, looks out over the city. More will die this day, she knows, but no one doubts the valour of the People of Gondolin.

"Have at ye, ye scurvy, uh . . . fountain-pisser!"

"Go to the depths of Mandos' butthole!"

"Fall to my blade, big Balrog with scary flamey whips and

ohdearErumakeitstooooo-

Well, having not fought since the Nirnaeth, it shouldn't be expected that parley is quite up to snuff.

"Mother, what's a -" queries bright, earnest Eärendil. Idril claps her hands over her son's innocent little ears and prays. And waits.

[Plum]

Night 2 will end in (expired on 2014-02-07 00:45:00)

[Plum]

Day will start soon. Mod is coughing her lungs up but she can do it!

[Plum]

Then Tuor and his men must get them to the battle of the Gate, for the noise of it has grown very great, and Tuor has it still in his heart that the city may stand; yet with Idril he left there Voronwë against his will and some other swordsmen to be a guard for her till he returned or might send tidings from the fray.

WHAT TUOR ALWAYS SAID ABOUT VORONWË

"Man, Idril, I love that guy to pieces, a bro after my own heart, but you remember how your father sent him on that mission to go to the West by ship? He's the last mariner for real - not just the last one left alive, he literally almost missed the boat. Apparently he took a detour into some kind of meadow wonderland, and frames it as this super spiritual experience, you know, all this poetry, like he reached bliss and enlightenment. 'I'm telling you, man, day and night would flicker by uncounted, while still I stood knee-deep in grass and listened. There I was enchanted, and forgot the Sea in my heart. There I wandered, naming new flowers, or lay adream amid the singing of the birds, and the humming of bees and flies; and there I might still dwell in delight, forsaking all my kin, whether the ships of the Teleri or the swords of the Noldor, but my doom would not so, you get me?'

"Yeah, I get you man, there was a lot of great weed."

---

And Tuor remained in Gondolin, for its bliss and its beauty and the wisdom of its people held him enthralled; and he became mighty in stature and in mind, and learned deeply of the lore of the exiled Elves.

REGARDING THE WISDOM OF THE LOREMASTERS OF GONDOLIN

Now Turgon dwelt still for the most part in Nevrast, but it
came to pass that at last the City was full-wrought, after two
and fifty years of labour; and Turgon appointed its name, and it
was called Gondolin [in margin: the Hidden Rock]

Pengolodh! When will you get your nose out of these books? We're literally under attack by Morgoth's forces at this moment!"

"Yes! And the wisdom of the ages must be preserved in the Enemy's despite! Let me just fill in this marginal etymological bit . . ."

Or so its name was afterwards known and interpreted; but its
ancient form and meaning are in doubt. It is said that the name was
given first in Quenya (for that language was spoken in Turgon's
house), and was Ondolindë, the Rock of the Music of Water, for
there were fountains upon the hill. But the people (who spoke only
the Sindarin tongue) altered this name to Gondolin and interpreted
it to mean Hidden Rock: Gond dolen in their own speech.

"Whatever, it's your funeral."

[Plum]

TheIrishPope

-

Voronwë, Gondolin Vanilla

-

Removed From Gondolin Night 2

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Majiffy

-

Pengolodh, Gondolin Weak Doctor

-

Died Night 2

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VOTE COUNT 3:0

Not voting (14)

: Tierce, JacobSavage, shos, MafiaSSK, ActionDan, Espeonage, SpyreX, Albert B. Rampage, Cogito Ergo Sum, Desperado, sirdanilot, Elscouta, PeregrineV, Shadoweh

With 14 players alive it takes

8

votes to lynch.
Deadline is in (expired on 2014-02-17 03:00:00)

[shos]

Time to see who majiffy crumbed and cross fingers that he crumbed

[Tierce]

WOOOOOOOOSH

VOTE: Albert B. Rampage


Weak Doctor + Cop/Vig + Half Cop. Yeah right.


Question. Was Majiffy killed, or did he suicide? First post suggests the latter.

[Shadoweh]

The death flavors are different, so it implies different things killed them.

##Vote: JacobSavage

If we're going to point out the role that doesn't make sense, a Bodyguard and a Weak Doctor don't make sense in the same game. Also the kill is weird enough to suggest they're just trying to make him look like he should still be alive.

[Tierce]

Well I have no idea what Natirasha did N1.

But!

UNVOTE: Albert B. Rampage
VOTE: Shadoweh

Fire priestesses never bothered me anyway.

[Shadoweh]

I supose anyone who was a fire priestess in thiss game would be burning people with the eyes of Sauron, but I'm pretty boring in comparison. In other words, what are you talking about?

[Tierce]

Wrong Age, love. I mean, sure, Sauron was around, but he was busy being lord of the werewolves instead of that incorporeal... thing.

The first step to getting to hold my crimes against me is to actually prove I've done horrible things.

You mean like that case I posted about you?

Don't worry, they're going to quicklynch you tomorrow.

You might as well self-vote.

[Tierce]

Spoiler: Food first, then this.

Whoops, between the forum going down and self-outages and also my face having key prints five hours was slightly delayed
I'm still half-asleep so forgive if this isn't isn't understandable (the joke is my posts never are)

Since Tierce asked, my eyes are glazing over too many posts, normally it's easy to figure out who's derping and who isn't but uh.. it's hard to find a post in thread that isn't just Good Town and/or Derp Town. I'm looking at this list of who's left in my head and it's the people who are lurking/not posting and it's like, all the lurkers aren't all the scum, someone actually posting has to be scum too. ADan is being pretty, how do I put this, he's posting and not lurking to the fullest extent of the law, which is what he does as scum elsewhere. Also he feels like a solid dude and doesn't afraid of anything.

I'm at least ready to make a no-chance-in-hell pact on not voting Tierce, chamber, Actshun Dan, sirdanylyots (who people keep calling Dan, which is messing me up, there are two Dans in this game say their full names plz) and shos. I don't really have a read on Spyrex or CES other then 'is Spyrex' and 'is CES' but I don't really want to lynch either of them either. That still leaves.. a pretty decent list of people now that I look at it. Will look at actual list in next post since people are posting and I don't want to pass out first

Cut: I imagine Tierce thinks your vig is as believable as I do.

2. JacobSavage - Postcount: 6. I honestly didn't realize he'd posted before Scummy Butt: The Buttening. Not really much to go on, instead of explaining townreads please explain which of your fourteen 'scumreads' you think is the scummiest and why, possibly with a vote even, which you are not doing and should.
4. Aegor - I didn't like post 141 as an entry post, it felt like throwing a bunch of things out to see what sticks, plus what I said earlier about his views on Esp. Also not sure what brachylogy means, but if it means empty voting you're basically voting ABR for being ABR, he always does that as far as I've seen? I don't think you'd know that though. Conversation with Sirdan is sensical but you haven't actually mentioned anything about who you think is scum, so not really much to go on. Please explain which of the sixteen people who isn't yourself or ABR you also think are scummy and why. I'm preparing to copy/paste saying that alot!
5. Natirasha - I really want to like your posts but I think it's because you're posting like ActionDan in a non-caring kind of way. You're not Dan thhough so it's weird. I expected you to be more.. cheerful I guess? You were more wordy in the quicktopic, I think. I'm not really sure what I want you to do different to be honest, I just don't want to think of you as scum.
7. MafiaSSK - Last post: four days ago. Considering there wasn't really any meat to sink into at the time, there's not really much to go on here. Please follow up on question aimed at chamber, and answer if you still think Nat and Esp are scummy. SSK was quiet to the point of me not expecting him to reply to posts in the QT, and he's kind of a lurker in general, so it's hard to get a read either way.
9. Espeonage - I actually thought the whole VT on the scene thing was a good reaction test way to start off at first but the overblown NOW YOU'VE ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD SIRDAN YOU ARE THE SCUMS tunnel is just.. bad.

@sirdan's posting. Look at how he demands to know everything, town definitely wants information yes, but scum need it. It's like how White shouldn't lose tempo because they have the foot up on black in chess.

Nonsensical is probably a better word, and crazy paranoid. "Town would do this, but scum need to do it MORE, so sirdan spamming up the thread demanding to know everything means he's super scummy!" What I really want you to do is stop tunneling Sirdan and make a scum read that isn't based on The Most Easy to Hate Dude making posts at you.
11. Albert B. Rampage - Post count: 6. I don't know if there's a difference between ABR's town and scum games, but I'm already remembering why my eyes keep glazing over as I reread this game. Uhm, you said you would explain one of your votes if people picked one, and the only one person have shown interest in in the sirdan vote, so explain?
13. Desperado - Post count: 5. Please kill me. Wow, are you still voting me? I know I wanted to die while we were buddies, but I think you'll find I was equally suicidal in the game you were half-scum in too. If you're going to use meta then maybe you should use more then one game. You have plenty of my posts to look at and tell me if you still think I'm scum at least. also question, do you think sirdan is town or scum because when I tell someone I have a problem with their posts in your tone, it usually means I'm suspicious of them, but it's not clear in the way you're asking.
15. Elscouta - didn't like entry post of hopping onto the for some reason growing Sirdan wagon. Looking at his later posts though I'd have to say he's at least taking it seriously? Like, the opposite of how I feel about Esp's tunnelrageback. Still needs more scumspects who could actually be scum (tm)
16. PeregrineV - brain asdfghkjing why are you voting me and stop it reads as peregrinev
17. TheIrishPope (replacing xRECKONERx) - is a dude that's here

its hurting to think but I think I think Esp is the worst right now? Really what I'm remembering is that the game still practically hasn't started because half the people still haven't posted things. PS TIP if you seriously would have vigged someone who is obvtown instead of any of the above excluding yourself yyou would deserve to have the shit kicked out of you.

##Unvote
##Vote: Espironage

Tierce, I think you will find I was never actually a voyeuristic old man, I was always a sexy fiery temptress hiding in an old man's clothes. Also I'd have to say I'm as far opposite to being a voyeur as possible. Just pretend you can't read him and remember he's at least trying to help, in his own.. way. I'd stop posting if I were him too, wondering if I were still alive? (Or I'd start swearing at the 'vig' I supose if I was in the mood)
PPS i will take this as your admittance that i was in fact the bestest girl

Oh hey some new posts, I hope they are useful and productive to finding the scums!
Two minutes later, much sobbing was to be had. It's funny that shos is the one accusing Nat of being a jester because his posts would be a good competition for it.
Tierce, I'd have to disagree with you, numberwise there's probably at least one scum in there. I'd appreciate if you'd take a better look and tell me for sure which one that is, I dislike having to do so much critical thinking. I doubt Jacob is going to get lynched anyways due to lurker's boredom but I supose it could happen. I read this article that said you should realize when your wagon isn't happening and compromise instead of being stubborn, it was recommended by someone really smart!

There's a reason people use the words 'townie bloodlust' and not 'scummy bloodlust'. Your only current scumread sounds like you're telling me why sirdanilot is town. Hunters are looking for scummy beasts in the shadows, they're not the scum themselves. It's also way too 2 days from deadline to convince people to wagon sirdanilot. I think. Apparently I'm underestimating attention spans here. If I were to look at the vibes, I'd say ActionDan and Aegor, aside from Jacob, Nat and SSK who you have townie feels for, might be lynchable. If you don't want to get lynched you need to pick one and make a convincing case. At the very least we might actually be able to see you trying.

Cut: I can't read minds, I just have good intuition. I have a belief that people should be unvoted for the things they've done, not for what other people have said about them, and there is no done being having. Considering sirdanilot is the only scum read he's refusing to let go of and he doesn't have any new ones, I think it's a dimension beyond tunneling into the Pangalactic Didn't Read The Game Gargleblaster.

Honestly I'm not sure. I'm starting to get tired of trying to squeeze water out of a stone. Who else would you suggest lynching at this point?

They're better at wizardry. Although CES has posted alot more in this game then I'm used to and I don't remember getting any bad feelings about it, so saying he looks like scum this game is wrong, he just doesn't look bad to me. He's also the only person who posted actual reasoning that people should be voting you, instead of hopping on the rapidly growing train for Because Reasons.

Speaking of Because Reasons, what exactly was bad about his response? It had less swears in it, but it looked like something I'd type after a giant wagon of dumb. And trust me, I have had lots of experience with being randomly wagoned for no reason.

##Vote: TIP

Your posts are literally trolling and eating popcorn while watching everyone else think, while your vote sits uselessly on a dead wagon. Get food poisoning and die.
shos no. That is the opposite of a thing that's going to happen

Surprisingly there does sound like some support for CES? chamber's dropped in a few times but hasn't commented on it. >_> CHAMBER ON A SCALE OF YES TO NO HOW MUCH LYNCHING WOULD YOU GIVE CES THIS GAME?

note how she doesn't have any reasons!
and how her logic is flawed!
if you're town, seriously step up your game

How can I have no reason and my reason be wrong at the same time? You sound like a whining 4-year old.

Tierce did you just not so subtly call my wagon bad. =_= Why. Active lurking is way worse then just lurking. Besides, you can say you made a decision before a game started all you want, but the minute you actually get a role pm it changes your mind for you. That and in theory if you were scum you'd probably be lying about the original reasoning.

That first sentence in combination with my earlier weak read on him makes me thing Shadow is town.
I think that the TIP wagon evaporated because deadline was really pushing, and it caused people to jump to more viable wagons, which is a correct line of thought. I never understood why the TIP wagon formed anyway, though, so I'll be glad if you explain it to me.

Also this is definitely not RVS V2.0; not at all. ActionDan was my preferred vote up to the place where Aegor started being stupid, and the flip & NK didn't do much to change that; his posts really kept sucking, so I'm back to that read. remind me later to check out again about Natirasha.

Dissatisfaction I imagine. GUT only carries people so far, but I've been thinking about what bothers me overnight. Two things mainly.

First point: MafiaSSK jump. This is mostly because I got a good read from SSK from his response to that superfast wagon to him, but TIP's vote and response just felt like he was trying to push it over the edge. The argument against SSK was based on him lurking but posting in other games, which TIP kept pressing after his V/LA was announced. The 'CES vote out of nowhere' is an unfair argument, SSK was gone for 6 days and didn't have a major scumread before then, why wouldn't he have a new outlook after rereading?

Second point: Everything After Everyone Ignored The SSK Case. Or as I would call it, acting like this is a TV show he's watching for his amusement. His response to being run up was to vote his biggest town read for funsies for god's sake. I didn't want to make a big deal out of this before giving him a chance to post something constructive today but considering his opening post today I am not imagining there'll be much more to see in the future.

Also the second remark wasn't directed at you, but I don't think ADan sucks this game.

Ummm this Esp wagon...

No still not feeling it.

Hi this isn't a pronouncement of who you were protecting and why you're still alive today instead of dying for the cause.

I would vote for Spyrex just because his lurking on Espionage campaign has attracted literally no attention on him for no reason.
I don't think PV's done anything town. The only thing I remember him doing is poking at me for no reason and then doing nothing about it.
I think you're just townreading him because he agreed with your read. I don't agree with this wagon anymore and the agonizingly slow way votes are progressing has me convinced scum just doesn't give a hell about either of them as wagons.

##Unvote:
##Vote: PeregrineV

Instead of acting like this entire day phase is your V/LA vacation, explain why you agree with Dan about Tierce and why you keep poking at me, but follow it up with a vote on someone who from my observations is pretty easy to hate.

[Shadoweh]

>_> Wow, even when he's dead he's trying to be an asshole to me for no reason.
It's not possible for him to have targetted me. Or anyone, actually.

[Tierce]

Today ends in your lynch unless you explain this really, really well, Melisandreh. Claim.

[Tierce]

Don't fall asleep on us now.

[Tierce]

Very well, then~

Hai guys time to be lynching. This is not a Day for herding cats. Weak Doctor crumb + Shadoweh mysteriously vanishing from the thread when she ought to be outraged according to herself:

Honestly it's really weird that sirdanilot himself isn't here screaming at people to lynch not him anymore. Wouldn't you stick around if this was happening if you were town?

--means that she's scum and is just picking out the best trolling material now instead of explaining why Majiffy didn't target-her-or-anyone.


If someone wants to go through the stuff in Post 1466, by all means--I think going through the end of the Days in context should also be fruitful and etc.

[sirdanilot]

VOTE: shadoweh

[SpyreX]

Vote: Espeonage

Yea, Shadoweh is for death. Lets not belabor this.

[Tierce]

Vote: Espeonage

I hate you a little bit for this. :/

[SpyreX]

As well you should. I'll admit seeing majiffy town and the trigger not being pulled yesterday is an interesting combination because that was a low-risk high-reward lynch for scum there.