Open 541 - Too Many Heads Mafia (Game Over)

[Mhork and Mindy]

sorry was out for a pint or 2 with AP, home now

UNVOTE:

will reread.
still want to know what lying we were doing
~G

Mhork overreacted to your downplaying your comments on the modkills.

Convince me you were derp-hammering Ansuz for townie reasons.

Everyone knows one another and yet did very little bridge-building.

Since when were you a troll?

or, are you actually being serious?

because I actually

tried

my top two town reads should be obvious given how I reacted D2 to certain people as it opened, and what I tried to do

...I don't troll? Out of everyone playing, sure, you weren't freaking out, but given this:

Are you kidding me? I was keeping a good pace with the game, and even I don't want to go back to re-read D1. D1 was full of noise, and the only "scum hunting" there was Mollie pushing Nacho, and me trying to get her to ease off as well as, simultaneously getting a wagon on Mala/rach and even trying to compromise on you when I saw that it wasn't going to happen. everyone else was posting for the sake of posting

I'm very surprised to hear you disagree with my characterization of D1.

Off of 1448 I'm going to assume your town reads are PFR and Athenas Fury.

--PA

[Athenas Fury]

I don't need threats from a petty little girl.

What sparked this post?

Generic said he had a gut scum read of me because of AtE, which amused the fuck out of me. Anyone who has ever ever played with me knows that I'm a pretty emotional player, and the accusation of AtE has incidentally been responsible for my only mislynch ever in lylo. I don't think I AtE, I just say what I'm thinking and feeling, but I've been accused of it on multiple occasions. Anyway, I laughed at him about the accusation because he clearly doesn't know how to frame what scum me actually looks like, this even being after being my scum partner once. Anyway, I laughed at him that he didn't know how to read me because this is now twice in a row he's feeling around a scum read on me when I'm town. The last was in We the Purple, when I was town reading him while Nacho was scum reading him and I was trying like hell to get Nacho to listen to me. He accused me then of weird buddying and then when I tried to save his ass in lylo he called me a coward for not voting him. Anyway, I laughed at his inability to read me, and he retorted by insulting me like he does because that's what he does. I then told him that the blacklist that I took back after his behavior in We the Purple was real, and, polietly I might add, requested that he never sign up for a game that I am in again because I will not play with him anymore. There were no threats, but he can't help but make himself the victim in every story.

I skimmed today while at work and can't truly really respond to everything as I'm about to crash, but I saw the postulation that I could actually be his scum partner. I don't typically report my scum partners for calling me a bitch. (And KidA, I sort of get where you're coming from but fishy was defending me from an attack by someone not even in this game. His calling me a bitch, when I havne't even posted I might add and for something that wasn't implied was uncalled for.) For the record, both of the heads of our hydra had to put up with his non stop abuse and mocking in We the Purple, and we're both fed up.

[Athenas Fury]

I think Athena's/Marangal has at least one, possibly 2 scum in it. Generic's latest posts in the thread are really tempting to read into and I want to say that Scum-mara necessarily means Scum-Athena but his post read sort of town to me anyhow. Still I think they would be my focus over SiAm (town) and RBD (pirate)

The problem is, I'm not seeing Si/Am as town. I don't see their posts as legitimate; they come across as faked. I don't see them as townposting; I see them as scumposting. They seem survivalistic and manipulative, rather than analytical and unafraid. I'm not seeing Rancid as town. ("Pirate" is an accurate description of how I feel about him. ) I'm not seeing Marangal as scum; that slot's posting has seemed really legitimate to me. It has seemed genuine. It has seemed town. And Athena's basically dead-null to me; I can see them as scum or as town equally.

Give me reasons. Why is Si/Am town? Why is Marangal scum to you? What is your take on Athena?

It is absolutely impossible for you to be "dead-null" on us. I think I would feel tons better about you if you would pull a "Tammy's fooled me in the past" type of paranoia, but you're not doing any of that. If you are concerned about me why aren't you engaging me? We've rather recently been scum partners, so I'd imagine that you would think that you could get inside my head and figure out my alignment better than most due to that, but I don't see that attempt at all. You're practically damn near acting like I don't exist while putting out feelers to see what everyone else thinks. Just so you know, if you're attempting to designate me as your endgame mislynch the fight will be far greater than you think it will.

[Athenas Fury]

Also, I'm not sure who I really want to be voting for, but I'm kinda delirious with lack of sleep and should give up trying to read through this game and make sense and should give up and go to bed and read through the things I want to read back through tomorrow when I have more time. Thirteen hour days suck.

But, this is how I feel:



Also, just damn good song.

[Athenas Fury]

Unvote

For now.

[Paranoia Fueled Rampage]

sorry was out for a pint or 2 with AP, home now

UNVOTE:

will reread.
still want to know what lying we were doing
~G

Mhork overreacted to your downplaying your comments on the modkills.

Convince me you were derp-hammering Ansuz for townie reasons.

--PA

But how were we lying?
I could but to be quite frank I think you've made your mind on us.
This game was fucked the moment the modkills happened and by getting the FH to claim yesterday I hoped that we'd have lynched scum yesterday.
Just get it over and done with now please, We won't be marking this down as a loss.

VOTE: PFR

[Paranoia Fueled Rampage]

That was guyett

[Paranoia Fueled Rampage]

Yes, Guyett plays loose as town and scum. Heck, I can cite X-Men where he character-claimed prematurely and outed himself as a VT super-early to no good end as him being erratic as town. However. There he wasn't doing something that screwed town out of spite. I also don't like that he didn't bring this point up himself in the ample time he had to do so yesterday.

--PA

Do me a favour and point out a

scum

game where I was reckless pls

~G

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

Just get it over and done with now please, We won't be marking this down as a loss.

assuming you're town, (a) the modkills have very little to do with how badly town is doing atm; i'd say you are largely responsible for how badly town is doing atm, for lynching nacho without a claim and ending D1 early (that's not to say that anyone else has played particularly well, but you are a large reason we're in this hole, so stop whining like a little fucking bitch), and (b) self-voting is fucking pathetic - especially in this fashion - you're worse than bert, and i've seen some fucking enraging bad play from bert.

i really, really hope you're scum

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

PS: anyone who cares enough about winning or losing that they can say something like "i won't be counting this as a loss" is doubly fucking pathetic.

[Paranoia Fueled Rampage]

That zmuffin or Nati?

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

nati uses proper grammar and would probably keep up the pirate talk even if he thinks what i think

[Paranoia Fueled Rampage]

i really, really hope you're scum

Vote me and find out

[Paranoia Fueled Rampage]

Where is Nati, I want to talk to him about stuff

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

nati isn't playing and hasn't been playing for a while now

[Paranoia Fueled Rampage]

What were his and what are your reads?

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

the last time he gave reads was roughly 18 days ago and he had PFR, m&m, si&am and YA town, tammy scum, and 2 scum in {generic, SC, SG}

i have no reads. except mastin is scum

[Guyett]

If you had to call out a scum team now whos on it?

[Paranoia Fueled Rampage]

If you had to call out a scum team now whos on it?

FUCK
STOOPID HYDRA SLIP

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

i don't know and i don't plan to speculate right now. i have an idea but i think it might be wrong

one step at a time

[Paranoia Fueled Rampage]

bounce ideas off us
You're in my prob town pile for now (AP has some reservations here)
~G

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

i have no ideas to bounce off anyone. i threw out all my reads.

last night i had a theory generic hydra and tammy hydra were scum together and generic hydra didn't want to bus tammy yesterday but i'm not sure how much sense they make as scum together given tammy-generic thing (though he's probably capable of faking an emotional reaction like that, i was thinking he prob wouldn't replace out because of a fight with a buddy - slightly rethinking this as a possibility given he is clearly still reading the game and hasn't actually replaced out) and i don't really have a scum read on generic hydra based on their play

plus i'm not sure how much sense either of them makes as scum with mastin - i'm trying to figure out what YA was doing with their tammy vote D1 and i dunno which head or heads were pushing it so i dunno how i'm supposed to assess it

[Paranoia Fueled Rampage]

Could you explain your mastin read... we're in 2 minds about him

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

not in any sensible way

there are certain responses that i expect from mastin as town and there are certain responses that i expect from mastin as scum and he's hitting all the scum notes

it has a lot to do with tone, attitude and phrasing

one reason i was pressing for mastin to read the game and give his opinions is because (a) it will solidify my read on him one way or another (and i'm pretty sure he doesn't yet know exactly what i look for in his posts so i don't think he's capable of faking his town self when commenting on certain things) and (b) i want to see what his eventual read on me is when he doesn't have the excuse of not having read the game yet (and if he knows anything at all about reading me like he claims to, then he'll have no excuse but to town read me unless he's scum - he'll probably do it anyway even if he is scum, but i wanna see what happens here)

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

i could point to specific examples of what i mean with mastin's posts (probably after sleep because i'm fucking tired and i cbf doing a case at the moment) but i dunno if it's going to make a difference if you don't already see it