Marvel Avengers Alliance - Game over

[Porkens]

I've shown myself doing it, so I'd say that makes it so.

Uhhhhhghghghghg you make me tired. Can we drop this particular anus ram?

Nope. This is me noticing your scummy behavior and

1. ending my bull session with Thor to pursue it

. You just said

2. "We're lynching one of Thor/Bulba. There is no other lynch."

on page freaking one. Add in the fact that you cheerlead my original vote for Thor, and that these actions show you wanting to urge the fight on from the sidelines, and I wanted you hung from the nearest tree.

1. So you admit the talk between you and Thor was bullshit. Great, that will be helpful later.
2. You don’t get to use quotation marks unless it’s an actual quotation. I said “Well, we are pretty much lynching one of Thor/Bulba. Probably both scum TBH.” How is that a false dichotomy? (is this revenge from Zelda?)

Wrong! You said that the lynch for today was either me or Thor. You didn't acknowledge any other options. THAT's a false dichotomy. Why would you do that? Because you got overzealous and thought our RVS fight might turn into something more serious, and so you pushed too early.

I did with “pretty much.” So you think I am legit scum who went all in on page 1, that’s what you are saying?

Where were we "play fighting", and why do you think it's play fighting?

What is the difference between a “bull session” and a play fight?

How am I patronizing you? Do you even know what that word means, or are you just tossing things out there so it looks like you should be offended? And how am I discrediting your position? Your case has changed at least 3 times every time someone tells you how or why the current one is BS.

Really? I mean, honestly, do you not see how saying “try to be more subtle next time” isn’t patronizing?

It means everything when you were seeking to stay in the background and urge the fight on.

How in the

fuck

have I tried to stay in the background?

Why is page 2 too early to talk about cases? If you're out of RVS and you feel you've found something scummy, why not push for it?

To me, a case is something you build after many pages. I wouldn’t presume to call anything a case in the first couple pages, not seriously anyway.

My defensiveness? I've called out your scummy behavior, and showed why it is so, while all you've done is dodge the issue, and I'M the one being defensive?

There is

nothing

to dodge.

I've explained multiple times why I'm voting you and why I find you scummy. You then change your case on me when I point it out. You're the one who continues to try to dodge my case on you, and who tries to paint it like I don't have a case. And no, I'm not going to stop pushing you, especially when your reactions to my pushing shows that you don't want the attention on you, and you're trying to push it off. I don't see why you as town would continue to dodge me the way you have.

It’s not my fault you keep doing scummy things. You add to my “case” with every post. You can bring all the attention you want on to me.

I never said anything about reactions not being useful. What I've said is you've changed your case from "flinching" to distancing to, now, "well, it was your reaction that was scummy". And now that I have you cornered, you're throwing every word you can think of with a negative connotation at me in the hopes that people might not pay attention to what I'm saying and will ignore you.

You have me cornered? Super, go ahead and get me lynched. I'm done arguing with you.

[Porkens]

I just read Zekrom in ISO and

Vote: Zekrom25

Answer every question you've asked other people.

[Porkens]

SORRY

Vote: Zekrom25 []

Which airplanes are you guys on, btw?

[Zekrom25]

Vote: Thor665

[Zekrom25]

Thor: seems not helpful in my scum hunting method

[Thor665]

Thor: seems not helpful in my scum hunting method

What is your method and how am I harming it?

[Zekrom25]

Thor: seems not helpful in my scum hunting method

What is your method and how am I harming it?

you only provide only vague responses to my questions, not providing much information for a good read, etc

[Yates]

I'm just going to vote Bulb for no other reason than because I want to enjoy a friendly game this time around and he's making it hard. I could pretend it's about the "flinching" and all but really I just don't like the cut of his jib.

Also, post 65 is worth keeping in mind should Bulb flip scum. Potential scum buddy coaching between Bulb and cxi.

Also, also, this reads as a "wtf are you playing at?" type of question:

You called Porkens play poor, but not scummy. Why is that?

@Bulba

- are you being serious here, am I interrupting some bizzare information/reaction fish, or are you just being argumentative for no good reason? I guess what raised my hackles is you made THIS statement immediately before asking that question:

I've watched you try to lynch town over nitpicky things

Pot - Kettle?

@XScorp

-

Zekrom is pretending to scumhunt

LOL? He isn't even PRETENDING to scumhunt. Be serious.

*****
Those were my notes from like page 4. Now that I'm fully caught up? Zekrom can go first. Low hanging fruit is low hanging fruit for a reason.

Vote: Zekrom25 []

[Porkens]

I don't care what Yate's alignment is, he can stay the whole game.

[Thor665]

you only provide only vague responses to my questions, not providing much information for a good read, etc

What was my vague answer that isn't clear enough to allow you to get a good read?

@Yates - low hanging fruit is low hanging because it's sloppy at the game, I thought. When did it become alignment indicative?

[cxinlee]

Im off for the whole day, so quick thoughts:

Thor is a townread

Still fencesitting on Zekrom scum,

I believe #65 was a reference to this

[Zekrom25]

@Thor please provide a detailed description of your emotional stat currently ?

Heck if I know, I'm a guy with a beard, we don't talk about our emotions.

I'll go with annoyance

because this and [ongoing] are being pretty lurky and showing lots of players playing bad who probably should learn their playstyle limitations and not sign up for things and then flake, and that always bugs me.

What was my vague answer that isn't clear enough to allow you to get a good read? see bolded text btw if you are town this would not be so vague IMO

[Yates]

@Yates - low hanging fruit is low hanging because it's sloppy at the game, I thought.

When did it become alignment indicative?

I am expressly saying it is

not

alignment indicative. Rather, I'm ok with losing low hanging fruit on day 1 [pending much more pertinent information] since they are either scum or not going to contribute to my ability to win at any point during the course of the game. They can, in fact, create real problems for Town later in the game that I don't feel like dealing with. In short; you answered your own question with the setup statement.

[Thor665]

What was my vague answer that isn't clear enough to allow you to get a good read? see bolded text btw if you are town this would not be so vague IMO

How much more detailed could you get?
Like, give me an example of what you'd like for an answer. What's your emotional state right now?

[Thor665]

I am expressly saying it is

not

alignment indicative. Rather, I'm ok with losing low hanging fruit on day 1 [pending much more pertinent information] since they are either scum or not going to contribute to my ability to win at any point during the course of the game. They can, in fact, create real problems for Town later in the game that I don't feel like dealing with. In short; you answered your own question with the setup statement.

I'd feel better about that if I felt you were doing anything else.
Are you and I'm just missing it?

[Bulbazak]

1. So you admit the talk between you and Thor was bullshit. Great, that will be helpful later.
2. You don’t get to use quotation marks unless it’s an actual quotation. I said “Well, we are pretty much lynching one of Thor/Bulba. Probably both scum TBH.” How is that a false dichotomy? (is this revenge from Zelda?)

1. I didn't say that. I was simply saying that it was a typical RVS back and forth, which ended once I saw something I saw legitimately scummy. You should really stop stretching for your points.
2. I summarized your intent. I do that. If I wanted to quote you word for word, I would have used the site's quote feature. And it's a false dichotomy, because you were setting it up as if Thor or I were the only lynches available, which we were not.
3. What are you talking about? You didn't get me lynched in the Zelda game. That came later, after you were lynched.

What is the difference between a “bull session” and a play fight?

Bull session is when you have a back and forth with someone that is not very serious or somewhat serious, in this case, what we were doing in RVS. I don't know what you mean by play fight.

That

is your term.

Really? I mean, honestly, do you not see how saying “try to be more subtle next time” isn’t patronizing?

Keep crying scum, but it's your own fault you got caught.

How in the

fuck

have I tried to stay in the background?

Every time Thor or I made a move, you were essentially yelling "Fight! Fight! Fight!". If I hadn't noticed you doing it, you would have doubtlessly continued.

To me, a case is something you build after many pages. I wouldn’t presume to call anything a case in the first couple pages, not seriously anyway.

A case is a reason or reasons that you're voting someone or think they're scum. You can have a case after a couple of pages. It won't be a long case, but it's a case nonetheless.

There is

nothing

to dodge.

Every time I point out what you're doing, you try to shift the attention away from yourself and back onto me, even though your reasoning changes every single time. You're dodging me.

I'm just going to vote Bulb for no other reason than because I want to enjoy a friendly game this time around and he's making it hard.

Is me being aggressive while hunting scum hurting your mojo? I'd hate to see how you'd handle Majiffy, Kuribo, or even Fate.

You called Porkens play poor, but not scummy. Why is that?

@Bulba

- are you being serious here, am I interrupting some bizzare information/reaction fish, or are you just being argumentative for no good reason?

I had wanted to talk to Thor about the difference between my voting him and Porkens voting him before, but Porkens setting Thor and I up as the sole lynches caught my attention. Meanwhile, Thor pretty much ignored that situation, when I expected him to at least comment on what was said. He had stated previously that he saw Porkens play as poor, which means he didn't find it scummy. I wanted him to expand on that statement, mainly to see why he thought that was the case.

I've watched you try to lynch town over nitpicky things

Pot - Kettle?

I'm referring specifically to Thor's pushes on Slandaar and Mollie in Maniacal Streets Mafia.

[Porkens]

cxinlee, could you explain your conflicting emotions on Z?

[Zekrom25]

What was my vague answer that isn't clear enough to allow you to get a good read? see bolded text btw if you are town this would not be so vague IMO

How much more detailed could you get?
Like, give me an example of what you'd like for an answer. What's your emotional state right now?

mild & in control of my emotions, i also like to be a public figure & helpful when needed

[cxinlee]

I don't think ongoing games can be mentioned

[Smudger]

I'm just going to vote Bulb for no other reason than because I want to enjoy a friendly game this time around and he's making it hard. I could pretend it's about the "flinching" and all but really I just don't like the cut of his jib.


*****
Those were my notes from like page 4. Now that I'm fully caught up? Zekrom can go first. Low hanging fruit is low hanging fruit for a reason.

Vote: Zekrom25 []

which is it? yes Zek needs to go. And yes the dick fight between Bulb and Pork is pretty distracting, But why Bulb over Pork, you are saying you agree with Pork

AT ANY RATE your defensiveness is the real scum tell at this point.

I see this so many times, why is "defensiveness" a scum tell. I think it has more to do with context rather than the fact that someone is "being Defensive", saying being defensive is scummy is in fact misleading.

While I agree with this, it's also the job of competent town to figure out who's scum and who's bad.

since they are either scum or not going to contribute to my ability to win at any point during the course of the game.

Bad town maybe be bad, but it is still town and therefore part of the game. So you are basically we should lynch all bad town?

[Porkens]

I think it's natural for scum to be act more defensively when someone is voting for them. I like going after someone in the early game (although I don't always do it) a bit over-the-top to see how they react. In my experience, scum can crack and slip under those circumstances. I think Bulb coming back at me so strongly is pretty far on the defensive side. Someone who didn't give a shit / had nothing to hide would just let it slide off.

[Zekrom25]

Thor: seems not helpful in my scum hunting method

[Bulbazak]

Is there a reason why you keep repeating that? What is your scumhunting method?

[Zekrom25]

by asking questions about stuff ( however my scum hunting method is different each game )

[Bulbazak]

How is Thor not helpful?