Mini 1537: ATTACK ON TITAN (Game Over!)

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

But then why is he upset about me hammering scum yesterday?!?!?!?

Am I missing something obvious here? What's going on?

[Kthxbye]

Oh, and all my stuff is in my ISO...L2read

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

You gonna build a case on anyone or just rant the rest of the day? Maybe you shouldn't hydra with such a piss poor player that hammers town and sends us to LYLO/MYLO while admittedly not reading before hammering?

Well I know this case doesn't hold a candle to yours, but I think Paschendale could be scum.

Why?

(1) He has the letters P, C and N in his name. Can you think of a single town player that has flipped who had all three of those letters in their name? No? Because he's scum and they weren't. Now you might be wondering why mastin2 flipped scum even though he didn't have P, C and N in his name. Well, here's the thing. 2 means "PC" in the titan language!

(2) Paschendale used the word "the" exactly the amount of times I'd expect scum to use that word. No more, no less. Don't believe me? ISO him and check.

(3) Paschendale didn't hammer Kaze yesterday? Why? Well, he was already voting Kaze!

I know this case isn't airtight, 100% rock solid like yours, but I think it's close!

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

Can someone tell me where Kthx has stated his N3 action, what his ability actually is, what his passive does and what his role is called?

I'd ask His Brilliancy again, but I fear he will tell me what a fool I am once more instead of answering me, and I could not stand being thought of any less by him than I already am.

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

I think Paschendale could be scum.

Aaaaaaaargh, silly mistake by me. I meant town, not scum. I think he could be a titan, town.

[Kagami]

I'm sad that we're not no lynching, because there's almost zero traction on lynching the actual scumteam right now.

RBD, there is a fairly obvious reason kthx has been voting town, and it's not that he's scum.

both you and kthx are town, I'm about 95% on that.

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

You gonna build a case on anyone or just rant the rest of the day? Maybe you shouldn't hydra with such a piss poor player that hammers town and sends us to LYLO/MYLO while admittedly not reading before hammering?

Hun, you haven't even see half of how bad a player I am.

@Kagami: You should see our hydra qt, it's ~hilarious~.

[Kagami]

Can you show it to me post-game?

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

Sadly, it contains other games and some IRL info so no.

[Kagami]

:<

[Kthxbye]

Fine, whatever lazy.

N1: No action
N2: Words of encouragement sent to RBD
N3: Nothing
N4: 3D Maneuver

Words didn't go through N2 to RBD. Nobody died N4.

I hadn't figured out that it's possible that my Words of encouragement might could be a hidden investigative ability until N4 after MOD said I couldn't do both. I'm still pretty sold that RBD is scum but we prob have 2 scum left so lynching scum Pache is also an option for today.

RBD: If it was Kag that I sent the words of encouragement to N2 and she didn't get it, what would your opinion be on it possibly being because scum can't get words of encouragement? I know this will be hard for you to back away from your childish rant and really think about it abstractly, but give it a go.

[Kagami]

What does the text (paraphrased) for your 3d maneuver gear say, kthx?

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTECOUNT 5.3

Rancid Broderick Drake (1):

kthxbye

No Lynch (1):

Kagami

Not Voting (5)

: Brian Skies, Rancid Broderick Drake, BROseidon, Paschendale

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch and 3 to no-lynch.

Day 5 ends in (expired on 2014-02-20 22:50:00)

Mod Comments:

[Kthxbye]

What does the text (paraphrased) for your 3d maneuver gear say, kthx?

one time dodge from things that happen at night.

[Kagami]

The latter part of it (assuming it's identical to the VT sample role PM) should say that no other actions are possible.

It's incredibly unlikely that it's a hidden investigative ability, and I your suspicion would be something that GiF would likely confirm/deny for you if asked via PM.

[Kagami]

I appear to have a word.

[GuyInFreezer]

Brian Skies have been prodded.

[Paschendale]

So, I'm all moved in, but I don't have my internet set up yet, so I'll be sporadic.

Between RBD and Kthx, I'm inclined to believe RBD a lot more. I obviously don't think there was anything wrong with his hammer, since I really thought that Kaze was scum. I kinda agree with the no lynch idea. I tend to normally be opposed to them, but we've lynched my best suspects already, so now I'm not so sure. I don't think we should vote in a no lynch anytime soon, but rather let the deadline expire or at least take our time.

Right now I would go with Kthx. I don't like his push on RBD (irrespective of finding RBD fairly towny). I also don't like his selective VCA. He picked only the successful lynches and not any other wagons. It looks like cherry picking of information, rather than genuine analysis. Equally interesting is that the same information he used to attack me also applies to him. So, his argument against me was really just "trust me" and not based on facts at all.

Kthx/Brian are the most likely, I think.

[BROseidon]

VOTE: No Lynch

I'm inclined to think town/town>town/scum>scum/town>scum/town for RBD/kthx, and I'm fairly biased towards the first one. I want the NL and more time to read stuff over.

[Kagami]

^L-1 on no lynching btw.

[BROseidon]

Oh shit it's 3 no NL.

Yeah, that.

[Paschendale]

I don't think we should end the day without Brian at least checking in.

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

I still don't want to no lynch. And I would rather use this day for discussion even if we are no lynching. But just in case we no lynch while I'm not here and I, for whatever reason, die tonight, here are a few of my paranoid thoughts that I want to get out there:

Why wasn't BRO roleblocked or dealt with in any way this game? On D2, he publicly claimed to have inherited AD's JOAT abilities, and didn't get roleblocked or killed or anything. Instead (assuming Kthx is town), scum interfered with what he did N2 instead, despite not really knowing what Kthx was claiming. Further, why did BRO choose to use Track->Vig when the vig shot would have made it MyLo if he guessed wrong (which it turns out he would have if he's town)? I have vague feelings that f16's early interactions with BRO point to him being town but this doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Why did Paschendale flip-flop on his Bert read so hard? I think it was because mastin was a counter-wagon (which would also explain his complete unwillingness to vote mastin yesterday despite claiming to find him scummy). Also, why did Paschendale choose to neighbourise Bert in the first place? I thought my other head asked this as some point, but I don't remember seeing an answer. Also what stopped the neighbourise going through? Scum JOAT probably doesn't have two shots at a roleblock, so unless they have some other way to interfere with night abilities, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense that the neighbourise didn't work if Kthx is town.

Brian I dunno. What's interesting about Brian's role is it is the only role that mentions a player specifically (as far as I can tell) - the neighbourhood I was in mentioned players only by flavour, and I assume the mentions of Ymir/Christa in BRO/Kthx's role were only flavour mentions as well given they didn't know who each other were. So Brian's role stands out in that regard. Also I was going back over the crumbs and felt really underwhelmed by them. I dunno, I figure that's something you crumb a lot harder a lot earlier than something you pick out stuff towards the end of the day as crumbs. The little birdie crumb is the only one that stood out as an actual crumb, and I feel there were plenty of opportunities to crumb it earlier on that Brian didn't do (yes, he called Dan town but no he didn't make it obvious). This quote, for example:

also, dan is town. Obvious, even, I think.

I don't know about obvious, but I have a townread on him (the comment about F-16 and Tammy makes me unsure though).

(a) Would have been a great place to crumb (like, "yeah I totally agree !! !! !!"), and (b) the comment in brackets doesn't make a lot of sense to me given Brian's supposed role

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand finally there's Kagami, who I still think is town. But the one issue I have with Kagami is that Misao was a much better all-round character in LS and should have got more air time. Maybe Kagami hogging the spotlight points to her being scum? Who knows?

[Kthxbye]

UNVOTE:

RBD's last post made me feel town feelings again....which is why I sent the msg to them N2 in the first place....

Ok, so that leaves his thoughts...which I agree with.

I know Ymir is in this game and BRO claims to be Ymir with no counter claim. Thus BRO is Ymir. I have no clue if Ymir is town or scum, but I was assuming that since I would be really upset (paraphrase) if Ymir died, flavor wise, it makes sense for BRO to be town. Game sense, I only lose my vote if it's not a hammer vote so...not so broken if Ymir (BRO) is scum.

Pasch has been on my scumdar all game. If there are 2 scum left, I'm pretty sure he's one of them so yeah, not no lynching today.

VOTE: Pasch

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

Could someone please unvote no lynch? Because I really don't think no lynch is scum and I would prefer not lynching him.