The Fall of Gondolin Mafia: Game Over (The Tale of Gondolin)

[Albert B. Rampage]

because if I were scum and you are town, I would either kill or block you on N2, and if you're still alive N3, then I wouldn't.

I know that is not what happened; so you're scum.

I forgot about this game while it was in night. When I came back, I vaguely remembered something about claiming to be a cop. I considered claiming a guilty on Tierce yesterday, but it was dangerous if she was town. So I said I was RB'd while targeting CES.

Today, I was planning on replicating the same, except then I remembered that I said I was an even-night cop, so I wouldn't be able to perform any actions. Basically, I blundered.

So in my next post, a few mins later, I decided to reveal my fakeclaim.

[Albert B. Rampage]

After I had revealed my fakeclaim you chimed in and said that I wasn't RB'd. You paid attention to the game. I didn't. I'm not really emotionally invested in this game as a VT who is confused by all the different factions and long flavor. Why I'm Turgeon, I don't know. I wish he was a PR.

[Albert B. Rampage]

CES is scum. We should vote for CES and not for me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Look, I know it sounds crazy, but it's the truth.

[shos]

I did not say that you weren't RB'd.

but you guessed that you did. twice.

and you said you did that to 'stir up the game'. There is no motivation for town to go through what you just did.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I fakeclaimed.

Then I said I was RB'd because the pain of being wrong about Tierce or CES was greater than the gain from being right.

Today I said I was RB'd and in my next post few moments later I said that I fakeclaimed.

[Albert B. Rampage]

[sirdanilot]

I think ABR feels genuine. Why, if he is scum, would he retract his fakeclaim?

Tierce and Ces and JS are WAY better places to place a vote. You know, JS is the claimed doc who HASNT BEEN KILLED EITHER FOR NIGHTS ON END.

[shos]

If you were scum, and a townie had claimed even night cop, and it is now an even night, wouldn't you shoot him? block him? redirect him? something?

you would. at least one of those.

So then, in D3 he claims to have been blocked - which makes sense. but..he claimed EVEN NIGHT cop. so on N3 - you wouldn't need to do anything. right?

but he was blocked again. how comes?

[sirdanilot]

Shos, what do you not understand about the concept of fake claiming?
How the fuck do you know whether he was blocked or redirected or not if he's a VT?

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

You don't nightkill bodyguards anyway, especially if they have a RB.

And ABR has plenty of motivation to unclaim cop? Getting "RBed" night after night is not exactly going to look good and he just screwed up his claim. Turgon makes tons more sense as safe claim picked to support the cop claim than as a VT too.

[shos]

I understand the concept. I do it alot. as scum. not as town. what motivation would town have to fakeclaim cop? get a CC? waste a doc?

and don't rolefish me, scummy scum mcscummer

[Albert B. Rampage]

I fakeclaimed mason in my other game, I made a strong case against a player that got many votes on him then said I lied about the case, I do these things as town. And I'm just very very town this game and will help you lynch scum.

[sirdanilot]

You don't nightkill bodyguards anyway, especially if they have a RB.

And ABR has plenty of motivation to unclaim cop? Getting "RBed" night after night is not exactly going to look good and he just screwed up his claim. Turgon makes tons more sense as safe claim picked to support the cop claim than as a VT too.

That's just silly. He could easily pull some innocents out of his ass. At some point he could even BANZAI by claiming a guilty (whom he would suspect to be PR or something), getting that lynched, then get himself quicklynched the net day, if the large amount of innocent + RB'd results would make people suspect him.

That's not at all what ABR did. I do not see his claim change as scum play, not as good scum play at least. ABR is better than that.

We are not lynching ABR, we are lynching Tierce, you or JS. Or Esp of course (!)

[Plum]

Turgon said: "Evil have I brought upon the Flower of the Plain in despite of Ulmo, and now he leaveth it to wither in the fire. Lo! hope is no more in my heart for my city of loveliness, but the children of the Noldor shall not be worsted for ever."

VOTE COUNT 4:1

Tierce

- 1 - sirdanilot

Albert B. Rampage

- 4 - Cogito Ergo Sum, Tierce, shos, Desperado

Cogito Ergo Sum

- 2 - Espeonage, Albert B. Rampage

Espeonage

- 1 - SpyreX

Not voting (4)

: JacobSavage, ActionDan, Elscouta, PeregrineV

With 12 players alive it takes

7

votes to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2014-02-19 16:05:00)

[SpyreX]

Vote: Albert B. Rampage

Sirdan is still scum and if Spy or Tierce or AD could explain why he's 100% town that would be great

Seriously. Look back. This one isn't hard.

Of course I'm pretty sure your scum so.

[SpyreX]

As an addendum.

I'll be happily wrong because sirDans crusade is at the point where hes not even reading the words to bang the 2008 drum, but I really don't think I am.

Jiffy is a lot of things, but there's pretty much one reason why I can see a weak doctor not hammering at all.

[shos]

ABR, explain to me why you would fakexlaim cop as town.

Pros:
you might avoid lynch
Youmight soak a NK

Cons:
You might draw a CC from a real cop
You might draw unneeded protection from townies
You cause wifom in town with no need

If you really did it 'to stir up' - what reactions have you got from this? What info sis you gather?

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

That's just silly. He could easily pull some innocents out of his ass. At some point he could even BANZAI by claiming a guilty (whom he would suspect to be PR or something), getting that lynched, then get himself quicklynched the net day, if the large amount of innocent + RB'd results would make people suspect him.

Oh right, the scum in a 18p game don't have any way of fighting a Cop and just let him live; mucho plausible. There's a reason the RB'd claim is a default, you know?

That's not at all what ABR did. I do not see his claim change as scum play, not as good scum play at least. ABR is better than that.

He literally said that he changed his claim based on saying that he got RBed start of the Day despite having claimed Even-Night. Why the hell would you make any argument on the supposition that ABR has any clue what he's doing?

[shos]

ABR is lying scum sirdan. Open thine eyez

[Elscouta]

Vote: ABR

Not buying it. "I vaguely remembered having fakeclaimed something, so instead of checking what exactly what my claim, i just said stuff in the hope that it would fit with what i said before"

[Desperado]

Vote: Albert B. Rampage

Sirdan is still scum and if Spy or Tierce or AD could explain why he's 100% town that would be great

Seriously. Look back. This one isn't hard.

Of course I'm pretty sure your scum so.

I did look back. All I can find from you is that he's 100% town. Help?

[Desperado]

If anything, "looking back" just makes me even more confused because your big fuckoff VCA analysis left you with sirdan and SSK as suspects, and you really wanting SSK dead, and now he's dead and flipped tracker and what, you just forgot all of that stuff because sirdan is town the end?

[sirdanilot]

I am not going to be a part of an ABR lynch.

[Tierce]

Vote: Albert B. Rampage

Sirdan is still scum and if Spy or Tierce or AD could explain why he's 100% town that would be great

Seriously. Look back. This one isn't hard.

Of course I'm pretty sure your scum so.

I did look back. All I can find from you is that he's 100% town. Help?

SpyreX thinks he's a Weak Doctor innocent. I don't care, sirdanilot could be painted in virginal white for all that I have any wish to interact with that slot. One more excuse not to read his posts, so I guess I win.

What are your thoughts on the game? Surely a week-long vacation from posting should give us something more than "I don't get this Townread".