Xenosaga Mafia (Game Over)

[Cephrir]

Kagami sure does look like a scumbuddy, but I need to look back at everyone. /Mostly/ agree with AFB's interpretation of 539.

[mastin2]

Btw, both Cabd and Metal Sonic are incredibly likely scum.

[Cephrir]

Sangres-Town
Cephrir-Town
AFB- Null
Dan-Town
Aegor-Scum
Skull-town
orc-null
pie-null
varsoon-null

Skull went from "one scum in {skull, aegor} to "town" when he has orc null.

Notably, Orc was a town lean in 539.

1572, what the hell are you on about.

[sangres]

No its not

I'm not hardcore about bussing, especially on day 1, because I don't play with the expectation of making it to LYLO as scum. But, I think even I would have been tempted to cut ties and go for some free towncred given Flandre's play. But, I don't think I would have started/revived that wagon when I did if I were scum.

That's me. Now factor Nacho in. good luck.

[Cephrir]

Btw, both Cabd and Metal Sonic are incredibly likely scum.

Why

[Angry Frat BROs]

Btw, both Cabd and Metal Sonic are incredibly likely scum.

Why

Quoted because I know masstin is going to give a vague answer and I want her to elaborate with specific posts/points rather than just asserting its gut and because of meta.

[mastin2]

Btw, both Cabd and Metal Sonic are incredibly likely scum.

Why

Aside from my scumreads on both?

Varsoon's scumreads on both, plus both having that familiarity with Varsoon. Few if any knew Varsoon better than Metal Sonic, and Cabd likely knew him, too. There might be others who'd kill him (thinking of those creamed by a town-him, like in Antihero, but off the top of my head, the only person is AP who's a townread), but those two are the most likely.

[Cephrir]

Hm, okay, that's sorta reasonable. I think it's a bit of a stretch to call them both scum, though. Maybe I'm biased because I don't think Cabd is scum.

[Cabd]

Cabd likely knew him, too

I lol'd. I can't stand playing with varsoon and generally avoid him in player lists because of how much our styles clash.

And let's go down your rabbit hole and say I'm scum. Why kill somebody I've proven I can out-argue (as per xenogears) instead of somebody that actually CAN read me?

[mastin2]

(Yes, AP, I typed that before your post. )

Also, it's not that both are scum. Both

could

be scum. It's

possible

neither are, too. (Just not particularly probable.) It's just that, individually, they're the two players most likely to be responsible for the kill.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Varsoon's scumreads on both

Hm, I'd buy MS a little more than Cabd here.

It felt a bit -blatant- for scum Cabd to kill Varsoon, ESPECIALLY since Cabd himself is/was not in danger of being lynched Today.

[Cabd]

Today.

You made a typo there. It is spelled "Ever"

[sangres]

I kinda feel two scum in {pieguyn, mastin2, zMuffinMan} but it's a gut instinct more than anything. But, I feel like part of the wagon on mastin2 is a burden of proficiency wagon.

^ All of these will probably flip town.

I feel like there's one scum in {Aegor, Skullduggery}

Both of these will probably flip town.

I'm liking orcinus_theoriginal's hated claim.

hmmmmmmm

So, I'm thinking Kazekirimaru is kinda town in regards where he's asking people why their reads disagree with them and opening himself up to different ideas.

I like Brian Skies catch up posts, they felt genuine, along with his reaction to the flashwagon.

The macmollie/sangres interaction felt like a TvT to me.

Hmmmmmm

We spent a lot of time looking at this last night.

Not the we you think.

mollie mentioned being in a neighborhood yesterday. So am I. All the players in that neighborhood were mentioned in Flandre's post 539.

As nacho, put it, either Flandre knew of our neighborhood and its composition, or it's a batshit coincidence.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Ok so who is in the neighborhood other than you/mollie?

[Angry Frat BROs]

Also lets be realistic here. I find it unlikely that Flandre would 'slip' about something like that if they knew about a neighborhood. Maybe, but it seems like something scum would consciously avoid like that black plague.

[sangres]

Aegor, Skullduggery, Gooner.

We didn't discuss outing this. But, I think it needs to be done.

One thing that stood out to me on Flandre's wagon was that our entire neighborhood was on it. Compare that to your neighborhood that was spread out.

And factor in whatever you think makes sense in terms of likelihood of scum in a 5 person neighborhood.

[Cabd]

Holy shit that's a huge neighborhood.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Holy shit that's a huge neighborhood.

[Cabd]

And factor in whatever you think makes sense in terms of likelihood of scum in a 5 person neighborhood.

1 or 2 is my bet.

[Angry Frat BROs]

I would lynch Gooner potentially.

[sangres]

Now, what do you make of Flandre mentioning all fucking five of us?

[sangres]

I would lynch Gooner potentially.

He's not even close to my top pick.

[Cabd]

Now, what do you make of Flandre mentioning all fucking five of us?

My initial thought is QT spy role, but that is usually seen in smaller hoods. Clearly there's a 1 in 5 minimum there?

[Cabd]

Ffery, mafiaSSK worries me a lot actually, going back and pulling his ISO.

[Cabd]

In all seriousness, I'm down for this Flandre wagon. So yeah.

Pieguyn, what's your reasoning for the Flandre vote?