The Fall of Gondolin Mafia: Game Over (The Tale of Gondolin)

[sirdanilot]

Vote: Albert B. Rampage

Sirdan is still scum and if Spy or Tierce or AD could explain why he's 100% town that would be great

Seriously. Look back. This one isn't hard.

Of course I'm pretty sure your scum so.

I did look back. All I can find from you is that he's 100% town. Help?

SpyreX thinks he's a Weak Doctor innocent. I don't care, sirdanilot could be painted in virginal white for all that I have any wish to interact with that slot. One more excuse not to read his posts, so I guess I win.

What are your thoughts on the game? Surely a week-long vacation from posting should give us something more than "I don't get this Townread".

Can we lynch this thing over ABR pleeease?

And if not, can we please lynch this tomorrow?

Thanks guys.

[Elscouta]

It is possible that sirdanilot was the n1 target of Nat/Majiffy. Shadoweh flips also helps making him look a bit more townish.

He might not be 100% clear, but he isn't in any way a lynch possibility.

[Elscouta]

Why is Tierce scum, sirdanilot? If it is because she dislike reading your posts, that would make almost everyone scum, you know...

[Desperado]

SpyreX thinks he's a Weak Doctor innocent. I don't care, sirdanilot could be painted in virginal white for all that I have any wish to interact with that slot. One more excuse not to read his posts, so I guess I win.

Based on which crumb?

ABR and sirdan are scum and the last one is Jacob or Peregrine.

[Desperado]

It is possible that sirdanilot was the n1 target of Nat/Majiffy. Shadoweh flips also helps making him look a bit more townish.

He might not be 100% clear, but he isn't in any way a lynch possibility.

Seriously, someone help me. I looked through both of their ISOs. Why would Nat, who townread sirdan d1, target him for the weak doctor? And where is his d2 crumb suggesting this? Because I don't see anything. And Majiffy's ISO doesn't give any special consideration to sirdan.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Majiffy categorically refused to hammer sirdan come deadline.

Targetting a town read N1 as a weak doctor to confirm that read (protecting sirdan seems marginal but Nat may have thought differently) wouldn't be a weird play either.

[Desperado]

Majiffy categorically refused to hammer sirdan come deadline.

He also categorically refused to hammer ABR. He said he wouldn't vote his townreads. Why would sirdan and ABR both be on the same level if Majiffy had confirmed sirdan as town to himself?

Majiffy being arrogant about his own townreads makes more sense than Nat targeting sirdan n1 but then not crumbing d2 and then Majiffy picking up the role and...still not crumbing d2.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm telling you, I'm not scum.

[sirdanilot]

Why is Tierce scum, sirdanilot? If it is because she dislike reading your posts, that would make almost everyone scum, you know...

Let us go back to Day 3 for this, Els.
No, because Tierce hopped onto my wagon at this point. While she never ever read me scum before that. She is also abusing her ridiculous feminism-driven hate of me (privileged male) as an excuse to want to lynch me, DESPITE the fact that she townreads me.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

I think you're town and I'd have deadline-lynched you too and that has nothing to do with your backwardness.

[Tierce]

Why is Tierce scum, sirdanilot? If it is because she dislike reading your posts, that would make almost everyone scum, you know...

Let us go back to Day 3 for this, Els.
No, because Tierce hopped onto my wagon at this point. While she never ever read me scum before that. She is also abusing her ridiculous feminism-driven hate of me (privileged male) as an excuse to want to lynch me, DESPITE the fact that she townreads me.

ahahahaha

So wait, you wanted to lynch me at the time because we were supposedly out of time for counterwagons. I flipped to you less than an hour away from deadline because after I struggled to push an alternative wagon, I could not. Lynching you would have been better than no-lynching, I don't deny that. What you did was super duper Townie and my actions... weren't? How come?

And good job trying to sell me again as a man-hater that wants to lynch you when... I am not voting you. I don't care if you live or die because your posts keep proving you are a terrible player and likely to lose this in LyLo. I don't like playing with you. But unlike you, I am not pushing a petty vendetta because you voted me at Day's end. I'm trying to lynch scum while you screech like a petulant child.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

He also categorically refused to hammer ABR. He said he wouldn't vote his townreads. Why would sirdan and ABR both be on the same level if Majiffy had confirmed sirdan as town to himself?

Saying you wouldn't vote your townreads with time left till deadline really isn't the same thing (and he said that in context of voting Tierce, which makes it inherently more reasonable - a pro-town Tierce is a pro-town force). I certainly wouldn't call what Majiffy said strong evidence for SpyreX's theory but the theory is reasonable.

[JacobSavage]

Why is Tierce scum, sirdanilot? If it is because she dislike reading your posts, that would make almost everyone scum, you know...

Let us go back to Day 3 for this, Els.
No, because Tierce hopped onto my wagon at this point. While she never ever read me scum before that. She is also abusing her ridiculous feminism-driven hate of me (privileged male) as an excuse to want to lynch me, DESPITE the fact that she townreads me.

Going to go out on a limb here and suggest that this is bullshit.

Also re:ABR and Mason Fakeclaim, whilst it is true that he did this and it was backed up by one of the scum, personally I felt that was an entirely different situation to the one we have here. That one was made in the heat of the moment D1, and if I remember rightly it didn't turn out too well for the town, didn't 2 of the 3 town PRs counter claim you?

So yes I do believe you could do it as town, but personally I think there is more scum motivation here at any rate.

VOTE: ABR

[JacobSavage]

Why is Tierce scum, sirdanilot? If it is because she dislike reading your posts, that would make almost everyone scum, you know...

Let us go back to Day 3 for this, Els.
No, because Tierce hopped onto my wagon at this point. While she never ever read me scum before that. She is also abusing her ridiculous feminism-driven hate of me (privileged male) as an excuse to want to lynch me, DESPITE the fact that she townreads me.

Going to go out on a limb here and suggest that this is bullshit.

Also re:ABR and Mason Fakeclaim, whilst it is true that he did this and it was backed up by one of the scum, personally I felt that was an entirely different situation to the one we have here. That one was made in the heat of the moment D1, and if I remember rightly it didn't turn out too well for the town, didn't 2 of the 3 town PRs counter claim you?

So yes I do believe you could do it as town, but personally I think there is more scum motivation here at any rate.

VOTE: ABR

[Tierce]

This game needs more Benmage. Then I can go stark raving mad in a corner while half the Town claims guilties on the other and sirdanilot builds a statue to his own skill and meta knowledge.

CES--thoughts on Shadoweh's stuff?


Someone reasonable in this game is probably scum and my heart can't take the Dragon's treatment again so soon.

[ActionDan]

Or should I just say guilty until proven innocent? Quite frankly, I'm going to figure out SSK's alignment by the end of tomorrow.

Pls don't kill ssk today.

Is he a lurker? Sure, absolutely. But he's also a lurker I have a certain fondness for and once he gets back from his IRL vacation I will be able to get his alignment down easily.

Oh look I found the N1 innocent.

[Elscouta]

It is possible that sirdanilot was the n1 target of Nat/Majiffy. Shadoweh flips also helps making him look a bit more townish.

He might not be 100% clear, but he isn't in any way a lynch possibility.

Seriously, someone help me. I looked through both of their ISOs. Why would Nat, who townread sirdan d1, target him for the weak doctor? And where is his d2 crumb suggesting this? Because I don't see anything. And Majiffy's ISO doesn't give any special consideration to sirdan.

Pretty sure Nat either targeted nobody, or someone he read as town (otherwise he would have breadcrumbed)

Given there is no crumb, we are up there guessing. Majiffy planned to die on n2, we are sure of that. So he either Nat forgot to send a target n1 (possible), or he tried to give us some information about his target. He declined a deadline hammer on sirdan, that means he had a great townread on him.

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There is nothing scummy in Tierce trying to get you lynched on deadline. But really, really, nothing. Actually, Majiffy behaviour was a lot more scummy and a basis of why people think he actually had an innocent on you.

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PEdit ActionDan: oh nice.

[ActionDan]

So obviously Sirdan wasn't it but he's still probably town

[Tierce]

Whatevs, SSK, if you're scum and are making me kill a good townie I hate you. AND I WILL HUNT YOU DOWN.

VOTE: CES

There's also this and it just taught me a shortcut for vote code.

So much for that but I should still enact this plan of not reading his posts.

[Tierce]

Town
{Tierce, Sirdan, Shos, Spyrex}

Town Lean
{CES, Elscouta, Desperado}

Temporary Town Permit (Useful Until Proven Otherwise)
{ActionDan, TIP, JacobSavage, ABR}

Scum
{Espy, Shadoweh}

Outliers (Null and useless)
{PV, MafiaSSK}

VOTE: Espeonage

...well, nevermind that innocent. I knew something wasn't adding up in my memory.

[ActionDan]

literally doesn't matter.

the crumbs were there

[Tierce]

It's totally irrelevant, if it was SSK, so.


Elscouta, are you currently at your computer with some time in your hands, or...?

[ActionDan]

There's a scum in Peregrine elscouta and shos.

100%.

I think it's shos.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

I think it's elscouta.

[Tierce]

It's totally irrelevant, if it was SSK, so.


Elscouta, are you currently at your computer with some time in your hands, or...?

I'm going to bed (...at 8 am), but I will want an answer to this in regards to this specific timeframe; I want info from now, not actually looking to coordinate a readthrough. So please answer it ASAP.