Marvel Avengers Alliance - Game over

[Bulbazak]

I've said before I'm not a fan of necromancy, but I'll answer the Zekrom read.

I'm waiting...

[Thor665]

That does change the dynamic of survivability quite a bit from Minis and Larges.

[Smudger]

Thor thats it is it? Belittle my thoughts on today so far.... nice. make no effort to discuss.?

[Thor665]

Thor thats it is it? Belittle my thoughts on today so far.... nice. make no effort to discuss.?

I find your thoughts worthy of being belittled. If you don't like it then back your thoughts up and explain why they are good. Functionally the ball is in *your* court for discussion right now, not mine. You have advanced a concept and I have expressed that it is terrible and has no logic. Your counter is to complain that my stance is dismissive...well...why shouldn't it be dismissive? That's on you to show, not me. I think it is dismissive.

@Mod - also, v/la 2/18-2/21

Again, I may or may not manage a post, but it's probably safer to get on the record books that my access and time will be limited. This general lurka-derp from me will assuredly end by March if not sooner. Weekends should remain fine also.

[Smudger]

Thor its an observation, one that holds merit. And one that is feasible and a possibility. Why then should you belittle it unless of course you want it to go away for reasons that are obvious to me should you and or Scorpion actually be scum?

Being dismisive of it in the manner you have done is insulting and will only encourage me to do what I am doing now, chase after it. So humo me by all means but do not insult me when I table a discussion point that holds feasibility and could actually be a posibility. And in particular in the way you have.

[Thor665]

Thor its an observation, one that holds merit.

I will agree it is an observation. Why does it hold merit?

I can make the observation that I am town, you are scum, and everyone needs to sheep me and the evidence for it is that you're trying to get me lynched for surviving and that is why the scum team didn't try to kill me last night - my "observation" now has exactly the same amount of "merit" that yours does. WOuld you like to intelligently address it? Show me how it's done.

Or is the point silly and has no support beyond random occurrences?
And should be dismissed unless I can provide anything to back it up?

[Thor665]

Oooh, though actually I just thought of a way to prove your point is untrue.
I have never. In *any* QT ever - advocated not killing the most townish person in the game to help justify myself still being alive.

Whoo-hoo!

But, darn, that still leaves you to defend against my merit filled point about you.
Carry on.

[T S O]

You have the benefit of his flip. so if you want to have an actual discussion on why I thought he was Town, leveraging that's a shitty idea. Now then, class begins.

Zekrom's playstyle is rather basic and as such, these tells are also incredibly basic.

@Porkens why am i sensing hostility from you ?

In an incredibly rudimentary way, he scumhunts.

No comment

i find this response not helpful ^

He pressures cxinlee when he doesn't feel the answer is satisfactory.

@Thor what do you suggest a better way to scum hunt would be ?

He asks Thor for advice on catching scum.

XScorpion seems town however wanting another town lynched seems mis-read

He calls himself Town, which is a mindset I didn't think I could see from scum-Zekrom.

[Smudger]

Where do I say I want to lynch you? I am not discou ting whst youbsre saying my observation is an alternative to what had already been tabled at that time. Thor, if you and Scorpion are such strong town players why do you think scum did not kill one of you last night? Who had more to gain by killing Porkens and for what reason was he killed?

[Smudger]

That should read.. I am not discounting what you are saying.

[Smudger]

Thor I have read your advice to newbie scum and it is some of the beet advice I have read to date. I do not recall if it says kill the most townie player. But then why would it say that, as scum you will know who is town and therefore possibly see the strongest town player as a threat to your wincon. In that circumstance what does your advice say Thor?

Oh and stop the attitude please, it will get you nowhere at all.

[Smudger]

Phone posting whit... beet read best

[T S O]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=35943

Bulba, here's very recent meta where I misread Zekrom as scum when he was Town.

[Thor665]

Thor, if you and Scorpion are such strong town players why do you think scum did not kill one of you last night? Who had more to gain by killing Porkens and for what reason was he killed?

I presume because they looked at Zekrom's interactions with Porkens and realized he was likely obv. town coming into today, and thus the optimal kill.
Also, as a potential alternative, they thought XScorp or I were more obv. town but feared protective roles and/or watchers.
But all of that, like your theory, is meaningless fluff at this stage.

Thor I have read your advice to newbie scum and it is some of the beet advice I have read to date. I do not recall if it says kill the most townie player. But then why would it say that, as scum you will know who is town and therefore possibly see the strongest town player as a threat to your wincon. In that circumstance what does your advice say Thor?

I have never offered specific Newbie advice on who to kill beyond 'kill those who you can't see getting lynched'.
I was saying you could look at scum QTs where I'm discussing the scum kill and never find me worried about what a kill will say about my alignment, which means your theory is proven as false as far as me being scum goes.
You still haven't dis-proven or intelligently discussed my theory. Why not? Are you dismissing it?

Oh and stop the attitude please, it will get you nowhere at all.

Its gotten me this far, what's another dozen feet?

[smargaret]

TSO, why are you so concerned with making sure we know why you thought zek was town? I get that you were asked, but your response is a bit defensive.

Yiley did not, in fact, come back with actual content.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Yiley

[T S O]

TSO, why are you so concerned with making sure we know why you thought zek was town? I get that you were asked, but your response is a bit defensive.

Yiley did not, in fact, come back with actual content.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Yiley

Well, Bulba's calling me scum, and the only logical reason he could have for it is me being wrong on Zekrom. I know I'm Town, and I think he's Town, so it's obviously in my best interests to explain my stance, no?

[Thor665]

TSO, why are you so concerned with making sure we know why you thought zek was town? I get that you were asked, but your response is a bit defensive.

[Bulbazak]

Well, Bulba's calling me scum, and the only logical reason he could have for it is me being wrong on Zekrom. I know I'm Town, and I think he's Town, so it's obviously in my best interests to explain my stance, no?

Except you didn't do it yesterday when asked repeatedly to do so. Instead, you focused on the accusation that you were buddying Thor.

[smargaret]

Thor, it's the going out and looking for a meta example where he misread zek that really gets me. That's where it crosses the line between responding to a question and overreacting.

[T S O]

Well, Bulba's calling me scum, and the only logical reason he could have for it is me being wrong on Zekrom. I know I'm Town, and I think he's Town, so it's obviously in my best interests to explain my stance, no?

Except you didn't do it yesterday when asked repeatedly to do so. Instead, you focused on the accusation that you were buddying Thor.

Well, you're going to really love this Bulba, but the honest answer is that I didn't have time. And I still barely do - tonight's a notable exception.

I can't respond to everything the whole time. In fact, this exact scenario happened recently, and you should know that.

Thor, it's the going out and looking for a meta example where he misread zek that really gets me. That's where it crosses the line between responding to a question and overreacting.

I'd like to hear you elaborate on this.

[smargaret]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=35943

Bulba, here's very recent meta where I misread Zekrom as scum when he was Town.

TSO, I'm not sure what there is to elaborate on - you were asked a question, you answered it thoroughly, and instead of being done there, you kept digging for meta to prove that you can't read zek. Why did you feel the need to keep going?

[T S O]

because I was scrolling through my games, saw it, thought "ooh, this could be useful" and posted it ...?

[XScorpion]

Smudgerr & cxinlee:

who is scum?

[jasonT1981]

Day 2 vote count 1

Zakk 3 - XScorpion,Thor665,BROseidon,
Cxinlee 1 - Bulbazak,
Yiley 1 - smargaret,

not voting

Yates
T S O
Yiley
Smudger
cxinlee
zakk

V/LA

Thor - 2/21

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

(expired on 2014-03-09 17:19:57)

till Day 2 Deadline

[Yates]

Bulbazak 2 - cxinlee,T S O,
cxinlee 2 - smargaret,Bulbazak,
Xscorpion 1- zakk
Porkins 1 - Zekrom25

Let me get caught back up after the long weekend. I'll be voting for someone off the wagon today.