Newbie 1471: Italian Ice (Game Over!)

[Wisdom]

Anyway, it's pretty obvious what Sakura is planning to do.

[Wisdom]

he caught scum on D1

How did he catch scum exactly?

[pisskop]

Hi guys, I've been reading since i sent the replacement request and I'm currently at Page 17.

Reads as of now:
Town: Nacho, the snowman avatar guy, TS.
Scum: bjc, Rob, ED (which means im wrong about at least 1 of these)

Not in any specific order.

Unvote

In case my predecessor was voting someone.

Can you tell me what made you flip to ika scum?

Read my ISO some things have caught up my attention after replacing in, but im willing to work with Nacho's read of him for the time being.

So from my PoV, lynching the Rob saves the mod having to look for a replacement, and has a statistically higher chance of being scum, both from actual statistics and personal experience from replacing into newbie slots.
While Tier has more interactions that can be analyzed, and him flipping scum would implicate a scum Rob as well ANYWAY, while a Town flip would leave us with a possible bjc scum. So I think TS would be a priority for me, I want to hear Nacho's and Ray's opinion on the matter (and p.much also everyone on Nacho's TBloc)

Nacho, talk to me. Who do you want lynched out of TS and Rob and why over the other.

It makes me think nacho is wanting a quick lynch on rob.

Nacho wants to wait for the replacement too u know.

34 pages shouldn't be that hard to read up on IMO, but one thing we want from you is reads with a 3-8 sentence reasoning as to why for each and you kind of need to read the thread for that.
Ray and Nacho are obvtown.
Nacho has a Ray, me, ika, Nacho, bjc, LMB townbloc.
You're being PoE'd as possible scum and we were waiting on the replacament (a.k.a you).

What's with the vote on bjc when you haven't even read the thread?

Nacho, she read you as town D1 so she could bait me intoan obvious nightkill. how does this make you feel?

Wisdom and Ff, please also contribute your feels on the matter.

[Wisdom]

Anyway, it's pretty obvious what Sakura is planning to do.

[pisskop]

you.
are.
no.
fun.

[Sakura Hana]

You would undoubtedly NK Nacho to get that out of the way,

because everyone else

(except me) is townreading you anyways.

Wrong #2. Nacho is not townreading pisskop. And again, he would undoubtedly leave Nacho alone given my tunnel on him.

Nice changing the facts there, Sakura.

Not chaging the facts, don't twist my words.

[Sakura Hana]

Anyway, it's pretty obvious what Sakura is planning to do.

You mean it's pretty obvious what I've done this entire game =/

[Wisdom]

You said everyone else except you is townreading pisskop. That's bullshit because Nacho is not. How did I twist anything?

[Sakura Hana]

everyone

else

(when talking about pisskop NKing Nacho) and me neither, that's how that sentence is supposed to be read. I'm starting to wonder whether you're doing this on purpose or is just my english derping again =/

[Wisdom]

Yeah, my bad. Nvm

[Sakura Hana]

Besides this isn't changing the facts either:

Nacho's being obvtowned by most people except you.

Wrong #1. Nacho was not obvtown by me, the exact opposite actually. Scum wouldn't kill someone who is pushed so heavily.

Nice of you to not quote the whole thing, when I was just saying what i was planning on D1 and then also said that it didnt work because not everyone was obvtowning Nacho?

[Wisdom]

You're still not answering - why would pisskop kill Nacho when I was tunneling on Nacho that hard and after it became evident from the Ray lynch that I can make people sheep me?

[Sakura Hana]

You're still not answering - why would pisskop kill Nacho when I was tunneling on Nacho that hard and after it became evident from the Ray lynch that I can make people sheep me?

I was hoping he would since he wanted me lynched and Nacho was defending me, but still it didn't happen *shrug*

[Wisdom]

You were only hoping, yet you accuse Nacho of being still alive?

[Sakura Hana]

Now that i think about it... Le Derp
It's obvious that my plan was bound to fail from the get go.

[Wisdom]

Accusing Nacho of being still alive means that he was an obvious NK yet he didn't die. However as I explained he is far from obvious NK given my tunnel on him. So?

pedit: Yeah sure, your plan. You're going to do it anyway, fakeclaim now than later

[Sakura Hana]

So you think I've been setting up a fake claim since the momment I replaced in? wow...

[pisskop]

Nacho. cmon guy. you know better than this.

1) not that naked speculation is good, but Id kill Ff for being so damn indecisive/town. bjc is small change. and you? I was pushing you as backup scum hslf the game. Killing you when Ive heard almost six people say you livibg to endgame is suspicious is silly

2) bjc kill is obvious. As obvious as obvtown nacho.

3)

[pisskop]

I dont have a three, but if I did itd be good.

[Wisdom]

3) Sakura is crumbing doc because all scum fakeclaim doc in the setup with only cop

zzz

[fferyllt]

So you think I've been setting up a fake claim since the momment I replaced in? wow...

No, not since the moment you replaced in.

[Sakura Hana]

From the momment I replaced in I intended to make Nacho obv NK target, which is why i read him as obvtown and tried to get others to do the same, this was because I read sometime (I don't remember where) that doc should try to lead scum to NK their intended heal target, which obviously didn't work. That's pretty much why I've been hardcore defending Nacho all game.

[Wisdom]

ok
So listen guys

If Sakura is real doc, there is a roleblocker. Which means Sakura is useless and we lose nothing by lynching her.
If Sakura is fakeclaiming, she is scum.

Therefore, we lynch Sakura.

[Sakura Hana]

Do you really think i've been fakeclaiming =/

[Wisdom]

yes