Touhou: Mafia in the Land of Fantasy (Game Over)

[Katarina LeBlanc]

So is Bubba the PGO Serial Killer

VOTE: Bubby

[pieguyn]

how many votes are on bubba
nobody vote till I make sure he's not aT L-1 or some shit

[pieguyn]

ok it's me, Varsoon, Sakura, Kat
continue ~

[pieguyn]

just realized if bubba is really SK that'll be the second time I've seen Jiffy peg the SK on D1
/hide

[bubbajack8]

You liked the idea of a GCBC lynch as well which may be why AD stayed on for so long

Plurality lynch mofo

how many times were you dropped on your head as a baby? give me an honest answer here

I love Libel.

Because I won't believe you are town until I see a town flip with my own eyes. I HIGHLY doubt your town

remind me what your reasons for thinking i'm scum are

Hmm. I don't know. Oh yeah A FUCKING COP GUILTY.

So now you're a Cop?

IC stands for Idiot child huh? Lush got the guilty.

A man looked at bubba and came up serial killer. At the same time a man is wary of results when he's such an obvious target for night actions.

That's pretty funny. I'm glad you're wary about that. Maf doesnt want to risk killing me so ta-da they do this to me.

tbh I actually believe zmuffin for now. I kind of feel like looking elsewhere atm

vote: bubba

here's an exercise

Nachomamma8 <- Merlin, motivator

pieguyn <- Koishi, mason encryptor

GoodCop_BadCop <- Tenshi, bulletproof
Saki <- Eirin, VT
Sakura Hana <- Yuuka, VT

Mac <- Sanae, doc

Varsoon <- Tewi, 1-shot redirector
bubbajack8 <- Okuu, bomb (SK?)
zMuffinMan <- Aya, 2-shot tracker

Jaqen Hghar <- Patchouli, IC

Katarina LeBlanc <- Yuyuko, oracle

ActionDan <- Remilia, 2-shot kill cop

DisCode <- Nitori, inventor

bold are the ones that are practically confirmed town. Mac included bc Kagami was macho, and Dan for getting a guilty on COK. italics are the ones where the role is confirmed but we don't know if they're really town or not

Kise/DisCode is pretty damn town. Nacho is in no way confirmed and it's possible GIF put a mafia motivator just to fuck with people (a scum role that is exclusively for getting towncred)

1. SXTLHGaiden,
   Reimu Hakurei (

   Bad 1-shot Strongarm Encrypting Girl

   )
   , sent to gap Day 1.
   
2. Serene,
   Satori Komeiji (

   Good Mason 2-shot Rolecopping Girl

   )
   , sent to gap Night 1.
   
3. Kazekirimaru,
   Youmu Konpaku (

   Good Girl

   )
   , sent to gap Night 1.
   
4. The Chamber of Kittens,
   Sakuya Izayoi (

   Bad Ninja Girl

   )
   , sent to gap Day 2.
   
5. Lush Life,
   Shikieiki Yamaxanadu (

   Good Odd-Night Cop Girl

   )
   , went to gap Night 2.
   
6. dramonic,
   Byakuren Hijiri (

   Good Girl

   )
   , sent to gap Day 3.
   
7. Kagami,
   Hong Meiling (

   Good Gatekeeping Girl

   )
   , sent to gap Night 3.
   
8. Messiah Complex,
   Marisa Kirisame (

   Good Stealing Girl

   )
   , sent to gap Night 3.

so, from roles alone:

TOWN: Me, Mac, Dan, Jaqen, Discode, Katarina

leaving 3 scum + SK inthe following assuming 15-5-1:
Nachomamma8
GCBC
Saki
Sakura Hana
Varsoon
bubbajack8
zMuffinMan

so, assuming these reads are right and bubba is actually SK, all we need is one more townread from here and it's autowin

as for teams, I could buy smth like {GCBC, zmuffin} + 2 of Sakura, Saki, Nacho

what does everyone think?

I'm literally going to say I told you 1 million times when AD flips scum with muffin, and I flip bomb. I've won this game. But you people don't want to. This is so fucking frustrating.

VOTE: gcbc

C'MON GUYS ITS SO FUCKING OBVIOUS. MY THEORY IS CORRECT.

Also yes i'll go here then

Unvote
Vote: Bubba

I expected better out of you.

hey Cabd get in here and talk to me about this autowin plan bc I know you liek autowin plans

IVE GIVEN YOU AUTO WIN. FFS

just realized if bubba is really SK that'll be the second time I've seen Jiffy peg the SK on D1
/hide

To bad Jiffy can't read me.

If you bafoons really lynch me. Lynch muffin tomorrow. No more jacking the fuck around. Vote muffin watch him flip scum, then move to AD. ??? Profit. Just fucking watch.

Oh and Jiffy said all his reads were wrong soooo.

[Sakura Hana]

I expected better out of you.

That was a mistake of you then, it's quite lame to just say "I expected better" when I haven't done much today, and you don't even want to explain to me why I'm wrong.

[bubbajack8]

two targets that definitely cannot refute the claim

i can understand you maybe thinking this about my track on you, but considering i tracked dram prior to him claiming VT, this doesn't make sense.

Like C'mon scum right here.

[bubbajack8]

muffin, on the off chance that GCBC flipped town, and you were king-made tonight, who would you lynch tomorrow?

saki or dram. then depending on their flips, go from there

Hey muffin. Is saki still scum? This proves my theory they were both counters more.

P:edit; Sakura. Because I've found scum. I've explained it, and yet you still move back to me on a result from the IdiotChild. Do you REALLY believe that?

[Sakura Hana]

Nope I'm voting you entirely out of stuff from yesterday.

[Sakura Hana]

+ pie's plan

[Katarina LeBlanc]

If the Muffin wagon happens I'm definitely jumping ship though.

[pieguyn]

WOAH WAIT A MINUTE

LET ME JUST CLARIFY SOMETHING

THE PLAN ISN'T AUTOWIN YET

WE NEED ONE MORE TOWNIE

THE POINT IS TO SHOW HOW CLOSE WE ARE AND TO POSSIBLY UPGRADE SOMEONE

ok continue

[pieguyn]

That's pretty funny. I'm glad you're wary about that. Maf doesnt want to risk killing me so ta-da they do this to me.

and how do you think they did that?

[ActionDan]

Bulba scum wouldn't surprise me at this point since all he's doing is screaming about a hilariously wrong theory he concocted out of nowhere yesterday for about no reason at all. But we missed a chance to lynch scum yesterday. Let's fix that

[bubbajack8]

@AD,

was there any particular reason you targeted cok?

IS this his track claim or did AD cliam this because hollly shit this makes everything perfect. Edit: see Below

(because keeping your role hidden is optimal play)

Why Majiffy didn't just straight up claim.

i'm aya, 2-shot tracker. dram went nowhere N1, katarina went nowhere N2. i checked dram N1 because i didn't like his play D1 and he made sense as scum on the varsoon wagon, i checked katarina N2 because i didn't like the way she jumped onto the action dan wagon after previously saying she didn't like it and i figured if i caught her targeting anyone it'd be a scum claim and a negative track result would semi-confirm her as town.

Dram flips town. This confirms him as a counter to you. You would not like Katarina on the Action Dan wagon. Good fake-claim.

I used it on zmuffin N2 and GIF never sent me a result PM. I'm checking to see what the hell happened

i dunno if i'm allowed to talk about time stamps of PMs but i received my track result from last night a long time after this day phase actually started

so that could have something to do with it

Zmuffin's some kind of role-blocker / result-changer. If he's not a role-blocker AD is.

AD is almost certainly town. i don't think the cok thing was a bus.

C'mon. This is obvious.

GCBC probably shouldn't be around if this game goes near lylo. i don't buy their explanation for claiming the bulletproof - they were better off not claiming at all, and saying that kise pointed out a crumb made them claim is dumb because it suggests they were crumbing the bulletproof. also not really sure what the prohawk head is doing atm; the VCA D2 was lacklustre and i expected more from the analysis

dram i dunno. he's done nothing this game, really. could be coasting scum. negative track result doesn't mean as much when scum had a ninja performing the kill. Varsoon (L-4): ActionDan | dramonic | Mac | Lush Life | GoodCop_BadCop | The Chamber of Kittens | Varsoon <- either him or GCBC for second scum on this wagon, i think

*Cough* both are counters *cough*

there will be no tracker counter-claim

and the funny thing is even with a flipped ninja and me claiming tracker with no counter-claim, meaning i'm practically IC-level inno, you're still probably going to be stubborn about this

Innoing self.

i'm a claimed tracker, no CC, and there's a flipped scum ninja <- like, literally the only possible way you can think i'm scum from this is if you think gif would include a scum ninja for no reason and i'm suicidal

More self innoing.

i play it strategically, not stupidly.

But you'd claim scum as scum.

you think gif included a ninja and no tracker/watcher? you think i'm scum dumb enough to claim tracker/watcher when there's a flipped ninja?

More self-innoing.

i still don't like dramonic or saki.

Even with a "No-visit" result.

Like c'mon. So fucking scum

P:edit; pie read this post.

OMFG LOOK AT ACTION DANS POST RIGHT NOW. LIKE SERIOUSLY.

[bubbajack8]

I got no result

p-ed: KAGAMI T_T

C'MON PIE YOU KNOW IT'S ROLEBLOCKED AND A RESULT CHANGER. MUFFIN TRIES TO COME UP WITH SOME BULLSHIT ABOUT A LATE PM TO SAY DONT WORRY ABOUT IT AND THEN YOU GET NO RESULT.

[ActionDan]

In my mind I am decapitating bulba with a baseball bat. How long can you scream about your shitty conspiracy theory

[pieguyn]

bubba's reaction reads caught SK. SKs generally get way more fired up when they're caught bc if they're lynched it's automatically the end of the line for them

someone tell me if I'm confbiasing this =.=

[bubbajack8]

In my mind I am decapitating bulba with a baseball bat. How long can you scream about your shitty conspiracy theory

The name's BUBBA. And quit with the libel.

Pie. I'm not caught. I've figured this fucking game out and no one is listening.

Fuck this. VOTE: bubba

When I flip town follow what I've said. I'm fucking right.

[bubbajack8]

L-2 C'mon AD and muffin confirm yourselfs. I dare you.

[pieguyn]

I got no result

p-ed: KAGAMI T_T

C'MON PIE YOU KNOW IT'S ROLEBLOCKED AND A RESULT CHANGER. MUFFIN TRIES TO COME UP WITH SOME BULLSHIT ABOUT A LATE PM TO SAY DONT WORRY ABOUT IT AND THEN YOU GET NO RESULT.

what kind of result changer would make him get SK?

and why do you think they'd target an IC who's supposed to have no action?

[pieguyn]

btw I was roleblocked bc of Kagami. but flail harder

[Varsoon]

Thanks guys, it's been a chill scumday. I even ate some cake.

[ActionDan]

In my mind I am decapitating bulba with a baseball bat. How long can you scream about your shitty conspiracy theory

The name's BUBBA. And quit with the libel.

Pie. I'm not caught. I've figured this fucking game out and no one is listening.

Fuck this. VOTE: bubba

When I flip town follow what I've said. I'm fucking right.

You're about as wrong as could be and deserve all the libel.

[zMuffinMan]

That's pretty funny. I'm glad you're wary about that. Maf doesnt want to risk killing me so ta-da they do this to me.

heh. when i read jaqen's claim i considered the possibility it was a gambit reaction test but not after this response and not after recent reactions.

but whatever, i'll go over the quotes you brought up anyway:

Spoiler:

Hey muffin. Is saki still scum?

read my posts - i've already gone over my thoughts on saki today. short answer: yes

IdiotChild

why are you whining about libel and calling people idiots?

Dram flips town. This confirms him as a counter to you.

no, it really doesn't. do you know what the term counter-wagon means? in order for something to legitimately be a counter-wagon it needs to be (a) pushed by scum - and you're suggesting the only scum on the wagon was AD who hammered when it was approaching the deadline and the only alternative wagon was GCBC and dram woulda been plurality lynched anyway sooooooooooo what's your point here? and (b) it has to be a wagon started in response to a different wagon, and while my wagon had people on it, GCBC's was at L-2 at the time the dram wagon started and dram's was even with GCBC's once the dram wagon took off, so if it was a counter-wagon to anything, it was a counter-wagon to GCBC.

and if you want to keep saying that dram was a counter-wagon to me, you're going to have to talk about why these two points are wrong or shut up about it

Even with a "No-visit" result

the result on N1 didn't mean much to me when scum had a ninja and there are a number of passive scum roles that could have gone nowhere - it was a minor reason to look elsewhere for the time being (and i was looking elsewhere) but it was by no means evidence he's town

C'MON PIE YOU KNOW IT'S ROLEBLOCKED AND A RESULT CHANGER. MUFFIN TRIES TO COME UP WITH SOME BULLSHIT ABOUT A LATE PM TO SAY DONT WORRY ABOUT IT AND THEN YOU GET NO RESULT.

um, firstly, what i said about gif giving me my PM late wasn't a lie - i'll ask gif if he'll confirm that i did indeed receive my PM late N2 if it makes any difference

and secondly, what would i gain by making that up? like how would making that up help me in any way? like if i did know that pieguy was roleblocked or whatever, what purpose would it serve to lie about a late PM?


the rest of the quotes you brought up don't really have any substance to them