Touhou: Mafia in the Land of Fantasy (Game Over)

[pieguyn]

is this you Cabd

what do you think about my almost-autowin plan

and also walk me through your thought process when Kise claimed he could give out bulletproofs

[Jaqen Hghar]

Well, the issue is, giffy is really adverse to making it

{player number}/4 scum AND a SK after both his mini normal and mini theme featured that and he drew flak for it.

A man thinks he could have compensated for that with 4 freaking Cops. It's a full on riot team. And the ones who got those known roles sure weren't of the Keystone variety.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

is this you Cabd

what do you think about my almost-autowin plan

and also walk me through your thought process when Kise claimed he could give out bulletproofs

Yes it's me. Hawkie always signs, I got lazy and stopped signing. IIRC your plan had several holes, lemme check it again.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

and also walk me through your thought process when Kise claimed he could give out bulletproofs

I... he did? News to me. I kind of checked out partyway through yesterday. That said I make zero assumptions about this setup. SSSK should clarify, as soon as his prod timer nears zero he'll post.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

>Varsoon (L-2):

ActionDan

|

Serene

|

dramonic

|

Lush Life

|

Mac

|

pieguyn

| GoodCop_BadCop |

The Chamber of Kittens

bubbajack8 (L-7): Messiah Complex | Kise | SXTLHGaiden | Tsukasa
GoodCop_BadCop (L-10): Jaqen Hghar
Messiah Complex (L-10): Amaranth
Tsukasa (L-10): zMuffinman
SXTLHGaiden (L-8): Kazekirimaru | Katerina LeBlanc | Kagami
Kise (L-10): bubbajack8
dramonic (L-10): Varsoon

Not Voting: Saki

-------------------------------

SXTLHGaiden

(L-3):

Kazekirimaru

| Katerina LeBlanc |

Kagami

|

Messiah Complex

| zMuffinman | bubbajack8 |

Serene

| Saki Lynched
Varsoon (L-4):

ActionDan

|

dramonic

|

Mac

|

Lush Life

| GoodCop_BadCop |

The Chamber of Kittens

| Varsoon
bubbajack8 (L-8): Kise | SXTLHGaiden | Tsukasa
Action Dan (L-10): pieguyn
Messiah Complex (L-10): Amaranth
GoodCop_BadCop (L-10): Jaqen Hghar

Not Voting:

light green = pseudo-conftowns
we can't tell jack and shit from this. both Gaiden and Sakura-slot were on a counterwagon to both of them and we can't tell if Gaiden was scum driven or not. while it's very likely Varsoon is town and GCBC is scum, it's not enough to confirm anything

This is your autowin plan, pie?

[pieguyn]

hell no it's the post above it let me find it

[GoodCop_BadCop]

Well, the issue is, giffy is really adverse to making it

{player number}/4 scum AND a SK after both his mini normal and mini theme featured that and he drew flak for it.

A man thinks he could have compensated for that with 4 freaking Cops. It's a full on riot team. And the ones who got those known roles sure weren't of the Keystone variety.

Maybe. Either way, I think at this point it's in town's best intrest to go SK hunting, SK is clearly shooting at town targets and not potential mafia, it does not deserve the leash, right pie?

[pieguyn]

4504
that was just some off the cuff VCA I did to see if I might be able to upgrade Varsoon. you know what happened last time we upgraded Varsoon .-.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

tbh I actually believe zmuffin for now. I kind of feel like looking elsewhere atm

vote: bubba

here's an exercise

Nachomamma8 <- Merlin, motivator

pieguyn <- Koishi, mason encryptor

GoodCop_BadCop <- Tenshi, bulletproof
Saki <- Eirin, VT
Sakura Hana <- Yuuka, VT

Mac <- Sanae, doc

Varsoon <- Tewi, 1-shot redirector
bubbajack8 <- Okuu, bomb (SK?)
zMuffinMan <- Aya, 2-shot tracker

Jaqen Hghar <- Patchouli, IC

Katarina LeBlanc <- Yuyuko, oracle

ActionDan <- Remilia, 2-shot kill cop

DisCode <- Nitori, inventor

bold are the ones that are practically confirmed town. Mac included bc Kagami was macho, and Dan for getting a guilty on COK. italics are the ones where the role is confirmed but we don't know if they're really town or not

Kise/DisCode is pretty damn town. Nacho is in no way confirmed and it's possible GIF put a mafia motivator just to fuck with people (a scum role that is exclusively for getting towncred)

1. SXTLHGaiden,
   Reimu Hakurei (

   Bad 1-shot Strongarm Encrypting Girl

   )
   , sent to gap Day 1.
   
2. Serene,
   Satori Komeiji (

   Good Mason 2-shot Rolecopping Girl

   )
   , sent to gap Night 1.
   
3. Kazekirimaru,
   Youmu Konpaku (

   Good Girl

   )
   , sent to gap Night 1.
   
4. The Chamber of Kittens,
   Sakuya Izayoi (

   Bad Ninja Girl

   )
   , sent to gap Day 2.
   
5. Lush Life,
   Shikieiki Yamaxanadu (

   Good Odd-Night Cop Girl

   )
   , went to gap Night 2.
   
6. dramonic,
   Byakuren Hijiri (

   Good Girl

   )
   , sent to gap Day 3.
   
7. Kagami,
   Hong Meiling (

   Good Gatekeeping Girl

   )
   , sent to gap Night 3.
   
8. Messiah Complex,
   Marisa Kirisame (

   Good Stealing Girl

   )
   , sent to gap Night 3.

so, from roles alone:

TOWN: Me, Mac, Dan, Jaqen, Discode, Katarina

leaving 3 scum + SK inthe following assuming 15-5-1:
Nachomamma8
GCBC
Saki
Sakura Hana
Varsoon
bubbajack8
zMuffinMan

so, assuming these reads are right and bubba is actually SK, all we need is one more townread from here and it's autowin

as for teams, I could buy smth like {GCBC, zmuffin} + 2 of Sakura, Saki, Nacho

what does everyone think?

This one, then.

[pieguyn]

yeah leashing the SK isn't a good idea at this point. it's too late and he's not hitting mafia

and yeah that one

[GoodCop_BadCop]

You can upgrade sakura from your list I think. (and me obviously but I don't think you're willing to take my word for it)

I'm pretty much expecting to lynch scum before LYLO hits, and when and if a scum protective or bulletproof flips i'll be confotown and unkillable.

[pieguyn]

Sorry, I say things when I'm sloshed. MC should steal from vanilla claims then, to confirm them and not screw over prs. Sound good?

I would vote dram but it's better to see what MC produces next.

Maybe gcbc is sk or godfather - but then we have no one claiming vig, so either sk or mod gave mafia 2 kills night 1. I can give bp vests. So that would make 3 of us who can prevent kills on top of other town power. +the bomb.

^here's where Kise claimed he could give BPs

also not upgrading Sakura. she rose 293874 levels on my scumdar today bc she has only ever sheeped me like this as scum. how has she been confirmed? 0.0

[GoodCop_BadCop]

She hasn't ben confirmed, but she's my townread from that pile you gave.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

Maybe gcbc is sk or godfather - but then we have no one claiming vig, so either sk or mod gave mafia 2 kills night 1. I can give bp vests. So that would make 3 of us who can prevent kills on top of other town power. +the bomb.

Hmm. Well, giving bulletproof vests certainly is interesting. I wonder who the hell vetted this setup because there's a potential for like 7 or 8 confirmed town day two, where massclaim breaks the game wide open.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

(In before empking was the reviewer)

[pieguyn]

weren't you saying Kise was scum earlier? what happened to that

[GoodCop_BadCop]

weren't you saying Kise was scum earlier? what happened to that

Ffery and I scumread him day one for his stances on us. I kind of inherited that. Dram flipping town means I've reset my reads.

My initial thought was Kise would be scum traitor, hence him pointing out my crumbs since the others couldn't talk with him.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

Either way, I feel like I can read SSK better if he gets engaged with the game.

[pieguyn]

so you think he might be a mafia inventor, whose claimed actions make sense and are pro-town?

[GoodCop_BadCop]

so you think he might be a mafia inventor, whose claimed actions make sense and are pro-town?

One of the claimed PRs pretty much has to be a lie. SSK slot is a longer shot on it, most likely is nacho's slot. The paranoia about notsci's slot went away when kagami claimed macho.

[GoodCop_BadCop]

Is there a reason you wanted me and not hawkie, pie?

[Sakura Hana]

Well at least now I know to not sheep pieguy ever when I'm scum, since apparently for him not sheeping him = me town and sheeping him = me scum.

[Katarina LeBlanc]

Onee-chan~ you guys forgot One-shot Oracle!!

also let's hammer

Unvote

VOTE: Bubba

sorry Bubby. Your efforts were valiant but rest in peace.

[Cabd]

Oh well. It's not like we won't be around to talk tomorrow. See you all in however long it takes lazy-giffy to lock n flip n night deadline.

[pieguyn]

Is there a reason you wanted me and not hawkie, pie?

cause afaik you have more experience with autowin plans (and you did the one in xenogears)

wasn't Nacho at least confirmed to be a motivator? although he could easily be a scum motivator