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It depends. The day is half gone, and we have half the needed votes. If we need to wait until deadline, then I expect to see some work product from everyone.In post 1924, sirdanilot wrote:That seems a tad bit too fast, doesn't it pere? We're gonna have a hard time getting her lynched in the first place.
scrap that CES is townIn post 1771, Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:You don't know anything about whether Jacob targetted ABR last Night then?
I'm not even sure it matters that much given Jacob just claimed to have targetted ActionDan N3 when he said just last page that his actions N2 and N3 had been the obvious one.
Vote: Jacob
Desperado is still a good bet for scum for dropping his Shadowehread so discretely and then never showing any interest in that angle (nor having anything except the most generic possible excuse to justify it).
So, literally every person in this game except for PV then is shitty and not pro-town.Okay tell me on what earth would a not-shitty pro-town player not have seen at that point that Shadow was obvscum.
I don't buy it. Also she is lurking, trying to avoid my accusation.
This is ridiculous. No, I didn't care about Jacob after he claimed, because he claimed Bodyguard. I was pushing CES and ABR, so too bad so sad if that's not enough for you that I kept Jacob's claim in mind while analyzing things. You're being disingenuous and taking things out of context to suit you. Majiffy votes Jacob near deadline, with no intent to compromise or actually push him, and I called him out on that. And I voted Shadoweh because I found Majiffy's crumb and everyone followed. Jacob's bussing of Shadoweh is not my problem.In post 1889, PeregrineV wrote:Actually, after his claim, you had NO interaction with him. Period.In post 1863, Tierce wrote:Why dedicate an entire role for a Cop--oh, wait.In post 1861, shos wrote:That is still odd; the doc is weak, why dedicate an entire role for that?
Weak Doctor balances like a Cop, not like a Doctor.
Something else that came to mind, if Shieldrender is indeed Strongman--they could Jail someone and kill them. Roleblock + Kill OP.
shos, saying something scum also did is not a scumtell--their job is to look Town. And PV's posts are not coming from a Town player who actually read my ISO when he says that I ignored JacobSavage, so...?
You bring hiim up here:Then he votes you here:In post 1150, Tierce wrote:What the hell are you doing?In post 1140, Majiffy wrote:Oh and JS please explain more about the specifics of your bodyguard claim when you get the chance.
i.e. are there conditionals (% chance of success, % chance of killing killer, etc)
Why the heck would you, as Town, want him to claim this?
It's pretty obvious. If JacobSavage is scum and is ever tracked anywhere but the person he claims to protect, he's dead. If he's rolecopped and shown to be lying, he's dead. NONE of this nonsense you're asking would ever help Town.And you defend him here:But when you vote Shadow:In post 1398, Tierce wrote:This is a terrible vote. You're moving from a wagon with no momentum to another wagon with no momentum, and not making an ounce of effort to push it. If you're not voting your Townreads, then push your nullreads already.Jacob follows:Then you agree with SpryeX:In post 1476, JacobSavage wrote:VOTE: Shadoweh200 posts later, Jacob flips scum.In post 1573, Tierce wrote:Regarding Jacob, I agree. I was thinking yesterday that one of {ABR, Jacob} had to be scum, but SSK flipping tracker pretty clearly means that one extra protection that doesn't alter the lynch threshold + Aegor's role makes sense as Town in a game that starts at evens, while ABR being fakeclaiming scum slots in nicely with the silly amount of investigative roles.
That's not my kill pattern. As scum, my priority is Town-looking targets, because they're not lynchable--everyone in a game will likely suspect you at one point or another, so it's pretty stupid to leave a paper trail like that. shos and you would likely have been kill targets for me if I were scum.In post 1926, Elscouta wrote:I reread day 1, and the Tierce push on JacobSavage looks genuine. The triple request of a claim (per PV case) is a slight concern, but definitely not enough to remove the town points for forcing the scum rolecop to claim day 1.
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However, i'm concerned about something. Sho and me have been reasonably widespread townreads, with a strong town read on each other. We have been "reasonably" active. We are day 5, and neither of us are dead. This does not compute.
So I tried to look a bit at the opinions of the dead people, especially regarding Tierce.
- chamber died n1, and he was really pushing Tierce-scum
- TIP died n2, and he was pushing ABR. He questionned Tierce towards the end of the day, and seemed to have kept the case "for later".
- MafiaSSK died n3. Guess who he was voting towards the end of his life : Tierce.
- Death of ABR is pretty neutral given he was confirmed town, and didn't do anything else than votehop on every single wagon.
So yeah. Three dead people, 3 people suspecting Tierce. Two reasonably high NK targets (shos and me), and one thing in common: never attacked Tierce during the first 3 days.
Vote: Tierce
And you have yet to explain why my posts didn't strike you as Town. I expected something,In post 1880, ActionDan wrote:Chamber died N1 after expressing a scum read on you while no one else did and your posts didn't strike me as town. I have mentioned all of this before.In post 1876, Tierce wrote:Still busy ignoring my question?In post 1870, ActionDan wrote:I dunno maybe it's shadoweh wanting to lynch SirDan over nl.
Child, please.
No. And if I were scum, you'd be giving me an out to throw a beautiful emotional tantrum when that fake hammer happened. Stop assuming people can't count if they roll scum, I know how to react "post"-hammer as scum because I'm a goddess at this game with my ~womanly wiles~. I'm Town, I'm not going to be lynched, vote ActionDan.In post 1934, shos wrote:L-1
really now.In post 1937, Tierce wrote:ActionDan, PeregrineV, profit.
Given that you have yet to state any sort of way my posts are not my Town play when you just played with me and that PeregrineV is pushing a terrible case when the person who knows me best is V/LA, damn right I'm certain. Elscouta is another possibility given the lack of analysis earlier and the "let's look at dead Town's reads on Tierce" without studying their reads on other people, including the dead scum. I'd put money on these three lynches winning the game.In post 1940, ActionDan wrote:really now.In post 1937, Tierce wrote:ActionDan, PeregrineV, profit.
your certainty in your assessment strikes me as something you wouldn't have if you were town here.
But I dunno.
AD - scum means JS tossed him out in his nonsense night action claims which I have a hard time buying assuming rationality but..JS so maybe.ActionDan, PeregrineV, profit
Not really, since most people sheeped Tierce's bus that day.In post 1936, SpyreX wrote:So, literally every person in this game except for PV then is shitty and not pro-town.Okay tell me on what earth would a not-shitty pro-town player not have seen at that point that Shadow was obvscum.
I don't buy it. Also she is lurking, trying to avoid my accusation.
Including yourself at day end.
Just want to be sure thats clear.
Why does it look like you're feeding in to his bullshit? Sirdan isIn post 1936, SpyreX wrote:So, literally every person in this game except for PV then is shitty and not pro-town.Okay tell me on what earth would a not-shitty pro-town player not have seen at that point that Shadow was obvscum.
I don't buy it. Also she is lurking, trying to avoid my accusation.
Including yourself at day end.
Just want to be sure thats clear.
If this goes through and is town, I want to be very clear that I am going to enjoy when the inevitable powerlynch on Esp happens at lylo.
Just so we're all aware.
No one "refuted" your case because there isn't anything to refute, it's just a recitation of the facts. Tierce pushed JS early, forced him to claim along with someone who flipped scum, and then largely ignored him the rest of the game. This is scummy...why? He was a claimed BG in a large game, which is exactly the kind of thing that resolves itself and isn't worth wasting time on and, lo and behold, he fucked up his night actions! Imagine that.In post 1921, PeregrineV wrote:Everyone has posted and no one has refuted my initial case on Tierce. Then, when I went back to look some more, it only reinforced it. Furthermore, no one has a single better reason for any other player.
In post 1418, ActionDan wrote:also not enough people for sirdan anyway
What's up with this?In post 1873, ActionDan wrote:It [the d2 NL] wasn't necessarily [a foregone conclusion when Shadoweh voted sirdan].
That's not my kill pattern. As scum, my priority is Town-looking targets, because they're not lynchable--everyone in a game will likely suspect you at one point or another, so it's pretty stupid to leave a paper trail like that. shos and you would likely have been kill targets for me if I were scum.[/quote]In post 1937, Tierce wrote:So I tried to look a bit at the opinions of the dead people, especially regarding Tierce.
- chamber died n1, and he was really pushing Tierce-scum
- TIP died n2, and he was pushing ABR. He questionned Tierce towards the end of the day, and seemed to have kept the case "for later".
- MafiaSSK died n3. Guess who he was voting towards the end of his life : Tierce.
- Death of ABR is pretty neutral given he was confirmed town, and didn't do anything else than votehop on every single wagon.
So yeah. Three dead people, 3 people suspecting Tierce. Two reasonably high NK targets (shos and me), and one thing in common: never attacked Tierce during the first 3 days.
Vote: Tierce
