Xenosaga Mafia (Game Over)

[Angry Frat BROs]

If Aegor is town and Skull is scum and I counterwagon her AGAIN, Im going to cry myself to sleep.

[Metal Sonic]

I do not think that skull is scum

[Metal Sonic]

But mastin would be a better lynch

[Angry Frat BROs]

But mastin would be a better lynch

Possibly. Do you think mastin is maf, SK, or either?

I'm really having a hard time seeing the "You'll regret thiiisisissis!!!" coming from a MafiaSSK buddy. Also SSK's posts about mastin read as if he were buddying a townie (or not-mafia) to me.

I guess mastin could have serial killed Cephrir and then hammed it up about being set up.

God knows the SSK defense was mindblowing on D3.

[Metal Sonic]

I don't care if he is group scum,blue scum,red scum, or sk.

I only care if he is not town aligned

[Metal Sonic]

And I am very good at spotting players that are not town aligned, and Poe says that the rest would be town aligned.

[pirate mollie]

metal I <3 your aegor vote!

[Angry Frat BROs]

I'm going to feel awfully silly if MS is scum this game.

[pirate mollie]

I will cry into my cheerios

[Angry Frat BROs]

Venmar i have good news. I think i have an sk read on Sonic.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Aegor is just mafia aligned still

[Metal Sonic]

Venmar i have good news. I think i have an sk read on Sonic.

Screw your sk bullshit you have been talking about sks since day 1 rvs when you were joking/slipping


I don't care about sk I only care about scum I have made that very clear

[Angry Frat BROs]

Venmar, I have good news. I think I have a scumread on MS.

[Cephrir]

Bah, go scum.

[ActionDan]

Your case on skull was more likely to be on scum than your aegor one (mafia aligned)

[Venmar]

Metal has been a bag of scum feels all game >.>

[Skullduggery]

Is it really just skull/aegor? Aegor maf, skull sk?

Don't get too comfortable yet. I'm afraid my flip will cause you nothing but disappointment.

I also doubt mastin shoots Cephrir for reasons even mastin pointed out (self wifom ahoy): the Ceph kill looks like something mastin would make.

So do you think that Cephrir was killed (in part) to frame Mastin? Who do you think would be most likely to do that? Looking at the players who would benefit most from Mastin getting lynched, I'd probably be at the top of that list since I've been accusing her of being the SK for a good while now. You've also (correctly) pointed out that I'm not the SK, though, so where does that leave us?

If you -did- have an action, he'd have to try and guess what it was or you'd -know- he was scum and enter a 1v1 with him. It makes a lot of sense for SSK to just real claim either way IMO.

If you Rolecop someone and the result you get is "Neighbor," you can infer that they don't have a night action.

And yes, I agree that it was a cockamamie theory in retrospect. If I was SSK's partner, though, what would I have to gain by presenting the possibility that he's a Rolecop, hammering him, and then immediately being proven wrong? What would even be the point of that? (And before you ask: No, I'm not satisfied with your explanation at the bottom of 2506.)

I mean I guess you were townreading MS throughout the game? but the phrasing here really bothers me "guess he wa stown after all" sounds like you knew he was town the whole time.

I had a decently strong Town-read on Metal Sonic, but then he said something that made me question it. We conversed a bit and I decided that I was just being paranoid and my Town-read on Metal Sonic was probably still accurate.

In a way, yeah, I did still think he was Town even as we chatted. I just didn't see the harm in putting that read to the test.

Cheeky gif, made right after a bus vote? Just makes this feel sorta bussy to me.

So you're saying that I'm scummy for posting a silly gif of MC Hammer. That's what you're saying, right? Okay, cool, just checking.

Skull even defacto assumed that this is what I thought was scummy which tells me that Skull was very conscious about that prediction specifically.

I was wrong. I don't like being wrong. Do you like being wrong?

Why is Skull going out of the way to appease Cephrir here instead of being upset or prodding back like she seems to have a tendency to do?

What? Read my response again. I called him a classy gentleman for hating something that he doesn't understand. That's a little something called "sarcasm."

If mafia shot zMuffin and he lived, they might strongly suspect he is the SK. Thats why I said I need to look and see if Skull's pressure on zMuffin was sudden.

I can tell you right now that it was sudden because I didn't suspect Muffin until SSK's flip.

[Aegor]

Ascetic reflexively RB's actions targeting them, yeah?

Anyone have their ability inexplicably fail lately?

What purpose does this question serve? We already know that Cephrir was an Ascetic.

I want a response to this question from Kaze.

I am liking Skull's posts more and more. Will review claims made therein.

really because post 2472 was terrible.

2473 was not. And 2472 had some merit. Which is more than I can say for Skull's earlier posts.

yours and gooner's push is pretty terrible and based on some dumb retarded idea you have about poe

FUCK YOUR POE YOU ARE WRONG VERY WRONG AND EVEN MORE WRONG THAN THAT

My case on you is emphatically not PoE. I know this because I spent a long time writing a post that you and everyone else just ignored. You are straight-up lying. At no point did PoE lead me to you.

AND, I told you why my participation is spotty AND YET YOU ARE ACTING AS IF I DIDN'T SAY A THING. I have a town mindset cos gee I dunno I am town how about you explain the scum mindset? I bet you can't cos you are reaching for the moon.

I never said you said nothing about your spotty participation. But I am not going to ignore it just because you acknowledge it. That is so dumb I cannot even believe you would feel comfortable stating it out loud. So all anyone has to do is acknowledge bad play and a free pass is given?

Can we just lynch backpedaling, "but you can't PROVE that I rolled mafia" players today?:

If

we want to lynch with a neighborhood, why would we pick the one with more players?

We should be looking at mollie, Kaze or within the 3-person neighborhood today.

I never said I would rather look for scum in the smaller neighborhood.

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^^ - Backpedaling

Read better, foo'. Conditionals are an integral part of the English language. If we want to lynch within a neighborhood, the 3-person neighborhood obviously provides better odds unless there are independently strong scumreads in the larger one, in which case the fact that we are lynching within a neighborhood is irrelevant. I forgot to list mastin among my lynches in that post, but I would be more than happy to lynch her too.

"But you can't PROVE that I rolled scum in this game"

We both know that is a gross misrepresentation of my defense. For you to reduce it to that is just rude. It is not at all unreasonable for you to explain how my play is rational as scum. And the fact that you have not tells me loads.

You're not off the hook yet, Flandre. I'll get back to you. I've been burned for ignoring lurker-Scum before, and I'll be damned if I let it happen again here.

scum.

fire.

die.

lynch.

I must say that I am relishing the next sentence.

*breathes in* I never said that; Skull did in post 537:

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Aegor
You're not off the hook yet, Flandre. I'll get back to you. I've been burned for ignoring lurker-Scum before, and I'll be damned if I let it happen again here.

My quote tags messed up in the post you quoted.

3) Assume I am scum. Now tell me what my strategy is and how my posts are reconcilable with that strategy.

-Distance from buddies Flandre and MafiaSSK by calling them lurkers and suspicious
-Attempt to mislynch Skull by making case walls on her.
-Point out scummy thing that mastin has done to make people interested in lynching him instead of your lurker buddies.

Skull was never close to a lynch on Day 1 and there is no way that you can justifiably claim I was actively pushing for her lynch by the end of Day 1. I hate all lurkers; Meta me. I just lost a game (as town) because I lynched a lurker in lylo (I did think he was scum, to be fair to myself).

Day 3 is obviously not explicable as distancing; see my response to muffin's post for more detail. And have I ever pushed hard for mastin's lynch? No. Have I ever distracted the town via mastin? No. You must be thinking of mollie, who did exactly that yesterday. Yet you completely ignored my big-ass post that explained that.

"But you can't PROVE that Im scum"

That is so unfair and so wrong on so many levels.

Both mastin and muffin get added to my desired-vig list. I think mastin is scummier than zmuffin, which surprised me when I re-read. The attitude present in his earlier posts (before he started making unfounded assertions about alignment) in particular gave me good vibes. None of mastin's posts have been helpful in any way, nor is there any clear scumhunting intent behind them.

Calling mafiaSSK out on being sketch, supporting an FS lynch around this time (but not SSK?) and not wanting either of them vigged.

1) Lynch scummy people. Vig useless people that could be scum. Hence the split. Plus the vig thing is facetious; cf. my similar posts in other games.
Backpedaling

No backpedaling. You are just assuming I am lying. Why waste information-yielding lynches on policies and VIs when they can be safely vigged?

[Kazekirimaru]

Ascetic reflexively RB's actions targeting them, yeah?

Anyone have their ability inexplicably fail lately?

What purpose does this question serve? We already know that Cephrir was an Ascetic.

I want a response to this question from Kaze.

It served no purpose. I was just pretending to do stuff while actually doing nothing.

[mastin2]

I don't care if he is group scum,blue scum,red scum, or sk.

I'm green-scum.


My vote's still on Aegor, last I checked.

[pirate mollie]

aegor so what is your case on me?

[Gooner]

Take a look at mollie's voting record. Last vote on FS. Earlier vote on Kagami. No vote on MafiaSSK.

Now consider the interaction between mollie and the known scum in her ISO. And mollie's general contribution to this game. Someone please explain the town mindset here.


My Kaze on case is long and well-established.

I pretty much agree with Aegor here. I don't see why so many people are townreading mollie and Kaze is definitely at the top of my list if there are 5 scum.

[Gooner]

@whoever mentioned aegor's push on ssk pointing towards aegor being town

Fair argument muffin, Aegor's back on the list of people I wouldn't mind being lynched today. At the moment that lynch is mollie or Aegor for the scum in the neighbourhood, I'm leaning mollie at the moment.

[Gooner]

Gooner, why did you give Aegor a free pass to Townsville so readily in your wagon analysis in 2365, 2366, and 2368?

To be honest I keep on flipping regarding Aegor as I read through. One moment someone points something out about him that makes me think scum then his defence is strong and I'm back to town again. Having read Aegor-AFB I'm back to town Aegor.

Macmollie is my best scumread from within the neighbourhood. Sangres is almost confirmed town. Aegor seems well engaged and is posting and arguing a lot today which I like. You're doing the same.

On the other hand mollie has been lurky, has a poor voting record and is sitting back again today and letting other people do her defending for her. She's being given a free pass by a lot of people for no reason and I dislike it, it makes me think she's scum.

[Gooner]

I don't get why every1 has gooner as town. like I really don't.

I am looking at his iso and it is shit like this:

macmollie- I disliked this slot early on simply

because it didn't seem like the way mollie normally played

. It still doesn't to be honest with you so this slot concerns me.

that fucking crawl all over me cos I am pretty sure gooner and I have not played together before so how would know what I do or do not do? I could see cephrir going over a player list and putting me as a possible easy person to tunnel but hard to lynch so as not to be incriminating with my flip. some1 told him something and since we do not run with the same crowd I srsly doubt this came from outside communication.

We've played together twice mollie.